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Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 17:54:14 No.26919180 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>26921195 >>26921333 >>26921500 >>26921955

New abilities were confirmed including an electric-type field effect!
Electric types confirmed OP in gen 7.
http://www.serebii.net/sunmoon/abilities.shtml

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 20:06:19 No.26921086 Report

Quoted By: >>26921165 >>26921688

Elec Maker is actually going to be pretty shit if they don't buff terrains

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 20:10:44 No.26921149 Report

Quoted By: >>26921249

Too bad it only works on grounded Electric types. So Thundurus gets no benefit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 20:12:33 No.26921165 Report

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>>26921086
What? Electric Terrain is good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 20:14:21 No.26921195 Report

Quoted By: >>26921226

>>26919180
That electric type field effect has been around since Gen 6 you fucking retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 20:16:37 No.26921226 Report

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>>26921195
Yeah but only as a move for shitmons

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 20:18:38 No.26921249 Report

Quoted By: >>26921543

>>26921149
>not using thunderbolt Roserade
>not using thunderbolt Heatran
>not using thunderbolt Serperior
>not using thunderbolt Florges
>not using thunderbolt Typhlosion
>not using thunderbolt Mega Diancie
>not using thunderbolt Mega Sceptile
Shit taste senpai. Electric Terrain is a great coverage option now that you can set it without wasting a turn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 20:27:07 No.26921328 Report

Quoted By: >>26921391 >>26921480

There are only three types of Terrain and four islands, so what will the fourth totem guardian have? Will they make a new Terrain type? Have it set up something like Gravity or Trick Room?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 20:27:19 No.26921333 Report

Quoted By: >>26921352

>>26919180
Oh yes...

Now I wait for the other fields ability, and one for Trick Room/Gravity/Heal Block.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 20:29:30 No.26921352 Report

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>>26921333
>Heal Block

Yes we need this. Goodbye to stall forever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 20:33:39 No.26921391 Report

Quoted By: >>26921606

>>26921328
I doubt either of the other totems would get grassy terrain or misty terrain as abilities. Tapu Koko is already a fairy type (and I'm assuming the other guardians will be fairy as well) so it wouldn't make sense to give only one of them an ability that corresponds with all of their types. Tapu Koko's island is also the island with the most plant life, so if any of them were to get grassy terrain it'd be TK. That being said, nothing on Melemele points to an electric type guardian, so who knows.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 20:39:54 No.26921480 Report

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>>26921328
Probably a new one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 20:41:40 No.26921500 Report

Quoted By: >>26921609

>>26919180
>Dazzle: Prevents moves with an increased Speed Priority from hitting

So who else is gonna end up with Dazzle? From the name it could easily be Steel, Electric or Fairy types for the most part.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 20:45:14 No.26921543 Report

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>>26921249
>not using Whimsicott for that priority Nature Power

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 20:50:09 No.26921606 Report

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>>26921391
Melemele means yellow in hawaiian. That's where the electric connection comes from. I'm assuming the other islands will also be named after a color.

The pure fairy guardian will probably be the leader of the group.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 20:50:16 No.26921609 Report

Quoted By: >>26921653

>>26921500
I don't get the flavor of Dazzle at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 20:53:08 No.26921653 Report

Quoted By: >>26921709

>>26921609
Priority moves are very guttural, fast and reflex based.
Blinding someone/distracting makes it hard to pull that off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 20:54:55 No.26921688 Report

Quoted By: >>26921726 >>26921742

>>26921086
> 50% boost for electric type attacks
> Stops Dark Void spam
> shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 20:56:09 No.26921709 Report

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>>26921653
That doesn't make sense. Especially since a blinding flash would make people do things reflexively. Maybe not what they wanted but if the mechanical representation is that it removes or negates priority moves somehow that doesn't really follow. I kind of get the idea that flashing someone might make them flinch and slow down but this seems like a weird representation of it if it's in the form of stopping priority moves. It should probably feel more like fake out or something, somehow.
This isn't the first ability to not make much sense flavorfully, mind you. It just happens to be one this thread is about

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 20:57:09 No.26921726 Report

Quoted By: >>26921738 >>26921742

>>26921688
Holy shit it's 1.5 boost?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 20:58:06 No.26921738 Report

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>>26921726
Yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 20:58:14 No.26921742 Report

Quoted By: >>26921807 >>26921816 >>26921832

>>26921688
The electric move boost alone makes this worth it. Hope this thing gets Volt Switch.

>>26921726
Yes, Grassy Terrain gives 50% boost to grass moves. Misty Terrain doesn't boost (hopefully they retcon that)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 21:02:46 No.26921807 Report

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>>26921742
misty prevents status of any kind and also halves damage from dragon moves
giving it the boost would be too much desu considering you have shit like pixilate

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 21:03:19 No.26921816 Report

Quoted By: >>26921861

>>26921742
Terrain only affects grounded Pokemon
So this thing won't get a boost from its Terrain :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 21:04:38 No.26921832 Report

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>>26921742
Grassy also halves damage from earthquake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 21:06:25 No.26921861 Report

Quoted By: >>26921977

>>26921816
It is a grounded Pokemon. If it's not Flying Type, doesn't have Levitate and isn't holding the Air Balloon. Then it is a grounded Pokemon.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 21:07:22 No.26921875 Report

Quoted By: >>26921991

>ability that disables priority moves
>its on a water pokemon

SMOGONBIRDS TIME IS OVER

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 21:13:37 No.26921955 Report

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>>26919180
This thing is going to rek. Voltturn is going to be so much stronger. This is probably an indirect nerf to Water as well since things like Heatran get Nature Power.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 21:15:26 No.26921977 Report

Quoted By:

>>26921861
Huh. My bad then

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 21:16:27 No.26921991 Report

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>>26921875
>It's almost definitely slower than the peregrine falcon pokemon
>is psychic-type
>talonflame learns u-turn to hit it super effective and switch out of it

you cant kill the bravest borb

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Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 21:19:47 No.26922046 Report

Quoted By: >>26922156 >>26922237 >>26922314 >>26922436

Fuck that electric terrain shit, the rest of abilities are (meta)game breaking:

>special moxie
>nullifies all stats save sleep for rest
>twice damage on switch ins
>fuck priority
Smogon on suicide watch

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 21:28:09 No.26922156 Report

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>>26922046
>immunity to sleep
>giving your team thunderbolt via Nature Power
>free choice specs/band boost for electric moves.
>not meta breaking

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 21:29:59 No.26922185 Report

Quoted By: >>26922318

>Stab Electric Terrain Specs Boosted Volt Switch

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 21:33:05 No.26922237 Report

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>>26922046
>inb4 Smogon instabans the ability or only allows it in AG becaus "Muh """"""""""""""""""""""balance"""""""""""""""""""""" "

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 21:38:14 No.26922314 Report

Quoted By:

>>26922046
most of those pokemon are gonna be shitmons

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 21:38:22 No.26922318 Report

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>>26922185
252 SpA Choice Specs Tapu Koko Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Mew in Electric Terrain: 199-235 (49.2 - 58.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery

This is assuming it's 100 base stat across the board like Mew. If it has over 100 special attack this thing is a monster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 21:46:44 No.26922436 Report

Quoted By: >>26922576

>>26922046
Nope, Anon. Back in 2013 when we were getting dripfed X and Y news everyone though Furfrou was gonna be OP because of Fur Coat. But then GF gave it shit stats, shit movepool, and the absolute worst typing for a physical wall (literally 99% of Fighting moves are Physical, and its the only type Normal is weak to so it attracts them like bees to honey). Plenty of lower-tier mons have OP abilities but get shafted by garbage stats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 21:57:44 No.26922576 Report

Quoted By: >>26922621

>>26922436
Talonflame did kind of have relatively shit stats too though, and I imagine that fish wouldn't have it that much worse than it would.

Especially if it turns out that it evolves, though it doesn't look like it to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 22:01:11 No.26922621 Report

Quoted By: >>26923026

>>26922576
Talonflame's stats are fine. Not AMAZING but it has a low BST so whatever. But anyway giving STAB moves priority is kind of a much bigger deal than having a larger effective defense. I don't know how good stopping priority is though. Did we see how it works? Does it outright negate the priority, make it move at normal speed, or make it auto go last or what? It seems like an extremely powerful doubles ability, though, by the way. The shot with Kangaskhan using Fake Out was big a hint hint at the intention of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 22:30:05 No.26923026 Report

Quoted By: >>26923088

>>26922621
'Pikachu cannot use Quick Attack'

Seems like it blocks them completely

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 22:35:42 No.26923088 Report

Quoted By: >>26923202

>>26923026
That's kind of absurd tbqh. I wonder how it works on switch in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 22:42:59 No.26923202 Report

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>>26923088
The same way other immunity abilities work. It's not rocket science... You can't use priority attacks against it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 02:13:05 No.26925725 Report

Quoted By: >>26925733

Bump for interest

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Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 02:13:48 No.26925733 Report

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>>26925725
Baka

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