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Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 22:55:40 No.26937908 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>26938045 >>26938070 >>26938078 >>26938167 >>26938281 >>26938982 >>26939579

>it's another 'japanese habit of mocking vanity gets misunderstood by western fans' episode

yes, it's garish and ugly, that's the point. we do this every goddamn gen guys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 23:04:34 No.26938024 Report

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Bruxish has a better ability, tho.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 23:06:29 No.26938045 Report

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>>26937908
But Jynx and Purugly are actually good ugly designs

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 23:08:35 No.26938070 Report

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>>26937908
But all of these except Jynx are actually good designs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 23:09:05 No.26938077 Report

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>>26938045
Why?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 23:09:16 No.26938078 Report

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>>26937908

>literally based on humuhumunukunukuapua'a

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 23:09:28 No.26938082 Report

Quoted By: >>26938799

Aromatisse is my favorite pokemon

AMA

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 23:10:07 No.26938092 Report

Quoted By: >>26938111 >>26938818

>>26938045
What makes these "good ugly" and the others "bad ugly"?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 23:11:32 No.26938111 Report

Quoted By: >>26938121 >>26938126

>>26938092
Maybe it's just my personal preference? hmm

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 23:12:38 No.26938121 Report

Quoted By: >>26938134 >>26938149 >>26938158

>>26938111
If it's your personal preference then you don't get to say "these are bad designs" as if it's somehow objective analysis.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 23:13:14 No.26938126 Report

Quoted By: >>26938158

>>26938111
Preferences are subjectives, they don't count.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 23:14:06 No.26938134 Report

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>>26938121
Fucking this

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 23:14:24 No.26938137 Report

Quoted By: >>26938146

Is bruxish supposed to be a parrot fish?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 23:15:11 No.26938146 Report

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>>26938137
Parrotfish/triggerfish combo

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 23:15:12 No.26938147 Report

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>>26938078
This triggers me

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 23:15:32 No.26938149 Report

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>>26938121
I shouldn't have to announce something is just my opinion before stating it. Grow up and fuck off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 23:16:38 No.26938158 Report

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>>26938121
>>26938126
>>26938134
everything is subjective

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 23:17:17 No.26938167 Report

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>>26937908
Gothitelle is great. Fuck you

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 23:19:51 No.26938200 Report

Quoted By: >>26938222 >>26938289 >>26938324

>>26938149
Yes you do. Character design is something that IS able to be objectively analyzed and discussed
unlike, say, music. If you don't make it clear what you're talking about then you're being a shitposter.

If the whole subject at hand is "are Pokémon designs getting worse? Is GameFreak doing something wrong?" and not "Have you been liking less Pokémon?" then you need to talk about the relevant topic. One is about character design, one is about taste and personal preference.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 23:20:12 No.26938208 Report

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>>26938078
how much drugs were the hawaiians on when they thought of this name?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 23:20:18 No.26938211 Report

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>>26938158
Your dick is subjective

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 23:21:39 No.26938222 Report

Quoted By: >>26938261 >>26938315

>>26938200
>Character design is something that IS able to be objectively analyzed and discussed
>unlike, say, music.
You can't say this. Be consistent. If one can be objective, then the other one can be as well.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 23:22:16 No.26938229 Report

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>>26938208

All of them.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 23:22:42 No.26938233 Report

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>>26938158
if you think about it, the idea of pocket monsters itself is subjective. what if my pockets are too small for pokeballs/pokemon? does that mean that they are no longer pokemon? what are they.

stay woke.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 23:25:16 No.26938261 Report

Quoted By: >>26938295 >>26938375

>>26938222
Music is art. Design is not art. Design is about form and function, it's a means to an end.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 23:25:38 No.26938264 Report

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>>26938147
>>26938211

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 23:25:41 No.26938265 Report

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>>26938147
Clever

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 23:26:19 No.26938270 Report

Quoted By: >>26938328 >>26938345 >>26938368

:^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 23:27:16 No.26938281 Report

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>>26937908
Gothitelle and especially Purugly seem out of place among the other designs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 23:27:27 No.26938289 Report

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>>26938200
>Character design is something that IS able to be objectively analyzed and discussed
unlike, say, music

I'm certain you are either retarded or trolling.
You cannot objectively analyze any piece of artwork. Learn the difference between facts and opinions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 23:27:43 No.26938295 Report

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>>26938261
Music is also about form and function.

I can tell you have never studied music. It is not subjective.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 23:29:16 No.26938315 Report

Quoted By: >>26938409 >>26938444

>>26938222
Designs have metrics. You can measure their effectiveness, you can see how well they accomplished their goal, and whether they served their form and function.

Really, all this sort of stuff is taught in school.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 23:29:59 No.26938324 Report

Quoted By: >>26938428

>>26938200
literally both are the same thing.
"are pokemon designs getting worse"
is entirely subjective. if something has a negative impression on a player/group of players because of their experience with it then it is subjective. it's literally a question directed at someone's opinions.
"is gamefreak doing something wrong"
EXTREMELY subjective. i can prove this by pointing out a single word in the question.
>wrong
give me an exact definition of something that is wrong. how do you do something wrong. wrong according to whom?
4/10 made me reply but still weak ass bait

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 23:30:30 No.26938328 Report

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>>26938270
>A stone butch is a lesbian or queer transgender person displaying female masculinity.[1] Stone butches usually do not like to be sexually touched genitally by their partners; however, they still provide their partners with sexual gratification, and often experience pleasure themselves in doing so.[2]
The term was popularized by Leslie Feinberg in Stone Butch Blues, a 1993 novel describing the tribulations of being a stone butch person. In the end of the novel the protagonist ultimately settles the battle between her gender identity and sexual orientation by claiming the autonomy to identify however she wishes. Atticus Lee, providing a scholarly point of view in contrast to Feinberg’s novel, contradicted this sentiment in an article published by Stanford University, arguing that a stone butch is a pre-transition transman who participates in sexual acts only to pleasure their partner(s).[3] Jack Halberstam explores the stone butch identity in relation to transgender individuals, claiming that stone butchness is a compromise between being a lesbian and being a female-to-male transman.[4] Both Lee and Halberstam assert that stone butch can be regarded as a gender expression/gender identity alongside sexual orientation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 23:32:05 No.26938345 Report

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>>26938270
Where are the sharks?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 23:34:12 No.26938368 Report

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>>26938270
I'd actually put Lumineon at 6

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Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 23:34:47 No.26938375 Report

Quoted By: >>26938428

>>26938261
>design is not art.
kill yourself
a pokemon design literally serves no function. if you believe otherwise you are an idiot. no argument.
>b-but it's used to portray the pokemon theme in an effective manner
the most effective way to visually portray this would be to literally lay side-by0side al the things it is based on. other than that a text based game is most effective.
every single graphical element of a video game is good or bad based on a human response. therefore subjective.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 23:37:29 No.26938409 Report

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>>26938315
how do you measure the effectiveness of a pokemon design WITHOUT involving appeal to a human whatsoever. please list the "metrics" of pokemon design.

if you can do this, it is objective. if you cannot it is subjective.
protip: it is subjective

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 23:38:55 No.26938428 Report

Quoted By: >>26938478

>>26938375
>>26938324

So, to sum it up: "M-MUH BAD DESIGNS" fags are retarded and should stop trying to pass their preferences as facts. Good, that's what I was trying to say since the beggining.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 23:38:57 No.26938429 Report

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Jynx, Goth tower, and the thing I don't remember the name of even though I like it have actually good designs though

purugly is bad because it ruined glameow but that was to be expected

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Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 23:39:57 No.26938444 Report

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>>26938315

And it's summarily ripped out of the textbook when people realize you're full of shit, J. Evans Pritchard.

Carpe diem bitch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 23:44:07 No.26938478 Report

Quoted By: >>26938505

>>26938428
Nobody is doing that, you just don't like people insulting what you like.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 23:47:17 No.26938505 Report

Quoted By: >>26938527

>>26938478
>Nobody is doing that

Uh, you should look again. The last 24 hours have been full of "this generation has the worst designs ever", "they dont look like Pokémon anymore", etc.

Not to mention the daily threads comparing Pidgey to Fletchling / Vulpix to Zorua saying that new Pokémon look like toys with no detail and that it's bad design.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 23:49:52 No.26938527 Report

Quoted By: >>26938953

>>26938505
And that's their opinion and they have every right to say it. Nobody is going to put "imo" after evert post just to clarify that it shouldn't be taken as fact. Why is this so difficult for you to understand?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 23:55:21 No.26938566 Report

Quoted By: >>26938606

Rate

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jul 2016 23:59:14 No.26938606 Report

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>>26938566

>Removing the spots.
>Including the beauty mark.

0/10

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2016 00:18:34 No.26938799 Report

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>>26938082
Do you want to sniff it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2016 00:20:25 No.26938818 Report

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>>26938092
Gothitelle isn't even supposed to be ugly for starters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2016 00:20:27 No.26938822 Report

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>>26938208
They only have, like, 8 letters, anon. This is the best they could do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2016 00:28:53 No.26938918 Report

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>>26938078
Oh memories of the high school musical 2 deleted scene

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2016 00:33:34 No.26938953 Report

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>>26938527
autism

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2016 00:35:41 No.26938978 Report

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>>26938328
>these faggots receive money from taxpayers to come up with these opinions

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2016 00:36:07 No.26938982 Report

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>>26937908

None of these Pokémon are confirmed ugly by the Pokédex.

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2016 01:37:46 No.26939579 Report

Quoted By: >>26939599

>>26937908
I don't see gothitelle as "mocking vanity." It's a solid design, and obviously a nod to Japanese EGA/visualkei fans. It also seems to be inspired by the Flatwoods Monster (note the pointy onion-like head, and the pokedex entry referencing stars and space).

Gothitelle is actually one of my favorite pokemon. Sucks that there's next to no good fanart of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2016 01:40:22 No.26939599 Report

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>>26939579
I don't see the Flatwoods Monster thing.

It's just a gothic lolita fortune teller.

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