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>>26974579

No but I think it was supposed be the deity of the Spirit World (the God of Death) before Platinum retconned it into a personfication of antimatter

- Turnback Cave being filled with Ghost-types
- Giratina's Pokdex entry in DP: "A Pokémon that is said to live in a world on the reverse side of ours. It appears in an ancient cemetery."
- The text in the room where Giratina is found reads: This is... That where life sparkles... That where life has faded... A place where two worlds overlap...
- One of the items you can find in Giratina's Room is a Reaper Cloth, which is called the Spirit World Cloth in Japanese, implying that it's from the Spirit World (the place where Dusknoir take lost spirits; Dusknoir are basically the Reapers of the Pokemon world)

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Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2016 22:42:16 No.26974872 Report

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Yes. That's why Arceus revoked his status as a dragon general and cast him into the negative world.

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Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2016 22:45:11 No.26974906 Report

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>>26974579

>Renegade
>Banished for violence

Pretty much, except Giratina isn't evil.

Out of the dragon trio, Giratina is basically the estranged sibling that nobody talks about.

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Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2016 22:52:54 No.26975033 Report

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>>26974579
Nah. He's more like Melkor.

(Lucifer-esque character in The Lord of The Rings, and the true Big Bad. Sauron was just one of his henchmen.)

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Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2016 22:56:50 No.26975082 Report

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>>26974579
You can see it like that but it's more than likely not considering the others in the Creation Trio and Arceus are more than likely based around the Shinto creation myth.

Plus even if Giratina were the Pokemon version of Satan then you know that it was never originally evil. Lucifer was originally one of the most beautiful angels in heaven and was incredibly loyal to God, the only reason he was cast down to Hell was because he didn't want to kneel down to humanity like God wanted him to. For a single bit of disobedience he is now considered the most evil being in existence.

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Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2016 22:57:42 No.26975096 Report

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>>26974781
It literally is though.

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Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2016 22:59:30 No.26975113 Report

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>>26974579
>Used to be one of God's deities, or angels
>Turned against God and was banished from his dimension, or heaven
>Extremely aggressive and violent
>Became ruler of his own dark, twisted underworld
Yup, pretty much Satan right there.

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Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2016 22:59:55 No.26975120 Report

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>>26974579
I don't think Giratina is supposed to BE the Devil, but I think they realized the parallels and put the six legs/six wings there on purpose.

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Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2016 23:00:31 No.26975134 Report

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>>26974906
>Banished for violence
>isn't evil
Choose one

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Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2016 23:17:13 No.26975355 Report

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>>26975134
Violence in itself isn't evil. Unless it's used for evil purpose.

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Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2016 23:18:15 No.26975369 Report

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>>26974579
No, it's just loosely inspired by it.

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Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2016 23:19:59 No.26975399 Report

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>>26975134

Giratina stopped Cyrus from destroying the world in Platinum

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Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2016 23:20:50 No.26975415 Report

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>>26975399
It only did it because its own dimension would have been destroyed too though.

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Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2016 23:23:35 No.26975457 Report

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Nope

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Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2016 23:29:56 No.26975505 Report

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>>26974823
Yeah, Giratina was definitely being set up to be the great afterlife Pokemon. I guess they changed it to antimatter because it would fit with the time space theme.

Plus, Cynthia even remarks in Platinum about Turnback Cave allegedly being a gateway to the great beyond.

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