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Anonymous Tue 05 Jul 2016 14:20:37 No.26981881 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>26981969 >>26981981 >>26981991 >>26982055 >>26982080 >>26982480 >>26982754 >>26983014

Would he be liked more as a champion if his team wasn't so shit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jul 2016 14:26:28 No.26981921 Report

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His team is fine, I just think people see him as underwhelming because of his personality. He doesn't seem like someone that particularly enjoys battling for the battling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jul 2016 14:28:57 No.26981941 Report

Quoted By: >>26981963

Honestly he might be my favorite champion and I really hate that they replaced him with fucking Iris in B2/W2 especially when
a: you don't even get to battle him for the initial championship battle in B/W
b: Iris is yet another dragon type e4/champion
c: you already fought a dragon type gym leader
d: it removes the gimmick of the gym having different leaders in different games

Also I think Alder's team is pretty cool. He would be liked better if you actually fought him to become champion in B2/W2

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jul 2016 14:33:14 No.26981963 Report

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>>26981941
To be fair, you already fight a Bug gym leader before you fight Alder (Iris has the same number of Dragons as Alder has Bugs).

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jul 2016 14:34:12 No.26981969 Report

Quoted By: >>26981981

>>26981881
His team in BW2 is pretty awesome.

So, not likely. He's still my favorite Champ, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jul 2016 14:36:53 No.26981981 Report

Quoted By: >>26982001 >>26982944

>>26981969
>his team in BW2

Isn't that exactly the same as his BW team?

>>26981881
He's my favorite champ. He's got a nice little backstory, we meet his grandson, he has a cool design, and a really cool team and personality. His battle theme is one of the weakest though, in a generation where pretty much all battle themes were really fresh and great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jul 2016 14:38:01 No.26981991 Report

Quoted By: >>26982003 >>26982944

>>26981881
His music sucks really bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jul 2016 14:39:43 No.26982001 Report

Quoted By: >>26982021 >>26982044 >>26982046

>>26981981
I think he was referring to his PWT team. If I recall he had a Braviary and Conkeldurr this time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jul 2016 14:39:50 No.26982003 Report

Quoted By: >>26982044 >>26982944

>>26981991
This tbqh. The music that plays when he pops up at random points in the region is nice I guess, but he has by FAR the shittiest battle them of any champion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jul 2016 14:42:22 No.26982021 Report

Quoted By: >>26982035 >>26982046

>>26982001
Oh. That's cool how he still only uses Unova mons. He's got a lot of pride for his homeland.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jul 2016 14:44:13 No.26982035 Report

Quoted By: >>26982044

>>26982021
Fuck that.

#UnovaWasNeverGreat

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jul 2016 14:45:53 No.26982044 Report

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>>26982035
(You)

>>26982003
I'll concede that Alder's theme sucks.

>>26982001
Yes, this. His PWT team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jul 2016 14:46:27 No.26982046 Report

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>>26982021
>>26982001
Alder's PWT team has 4 Pokemon which represent the E4 which is a nice touch

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jul 2016 14:47:11 No.26982055 Report

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>>26981881
His team was fine. Alder uses his friends, the pokemon which he travelled with and helped him to become Champion.
I liked that Alder knew he wasn't fit anymore to be the Unova Champion even before being defeated by N

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jul 2016 14:50:11 No.26982080 Report

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>>26981881
Shouldve had a Scolipede or Galvantula instead of the fucking Vanilluxe

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jul 2016 14:50:36 No.26982082 Report

Quoted By: >>26982096

People would actually remember him if all the dumb Plasma fuckery had happened earlier like in the other games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jul 2016 14:52:47 No.26982096 Report

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>>26982082
This. Surprise Ghetsis overshadows the entire E4 in BW.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jul 2016 15:43:45 No.26982480 Report

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>>26981881
People don't like him because hes not young and cool like steven or a hot female.

Hes fine as a champion and him losing to N was understandable considering legendaries but people blow that shit out of proportion way to much.

I like him and he has the best champion theme IMO.

CartoonFan1994

CartoonFan1994 Tue 05 Jul 2016 16:22:36 No.26982754 Report

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>>26981881
Alder seems just fine the way he is.

At least he was more active in the story and did more for his region than Diantha could ever hope to achieve.

Plus, his battle theme is awesome.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 05 Jul 2016 16:50:35 No.26982944 Report

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>>26982003
>>26981991
>>26981981

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3r40NT6Edc

His theme is literally GOAT. My favourite champion, I think he's how they should ideally be. Traveling across their region, giving advice to new and experienced trainers alike.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jul 2016 16:58:06 No.26983014 Report

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>>26981881
People don't like him because they are incapable of understanding character development and themes, so they immediately assume he's a shit trainer because he acts goofy and laid-back. These are the same /vp/ anons all think champions should be badass waifus like Cynthia or cold, calculating husbandos like Steven. Same people who hate the sexy new fish btw and only want ice wolves, godzilla dragons, and fairy waifus.

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