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Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2016 04:59:25 No.27073438 View View Reply Original Report

ITT we make Ice and Steel mirror eachother offensive/defensively. >balance

Give ice two more resists
Give ice 6 more things to hit super effectively. 7 if we count steels poison immunity as a resist.
Give steel one more weakness.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2016 05:54:33 No.27074409 Report

Quoted By: >>27078920

>>27073438
I always thought ice should resist bug and water, maybe even grass and also super effect bug. I don't think you'd be able to do your whole balance thing with ice super effecting so much and have them make sense

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2016 13:26:50 No.27078912 Report

Quoted By: >>27078946 >>27078964

>>27073438
You're not going to balance ice at all by making it waaaaay offensive. It's just gonna make more sense to have a poke with ice type moves instead of an ice type mon.

Really REALLY what gf should have done when they made fairy was make ice SA against it AND resist it. That would've done wonders for the type.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2016 13:28:48 No.27078920 Report

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>>27074409
>nerf bug
really?!

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2016 13:32:33 No.27078946 Report

Quoted By: >>27079243

>>27078912

Same with bug actually. Didn't make sense for them to use fairy as a dragon Nerf bc dragon has next to no offensive capabilities and steel blew it out of the water as a defensive type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2016 13:35:57 No.27078964 Report

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>>27078912
Nah.

There should be a type that's as much as a death sentence to be weak to as it is to not have any way to break steel.
Either that or you do the inverse of this here, and make steel match ice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2016 14:11:46 No.27079243 Report

Quoted By: >>27080104

>>27078946

That's more to do with the fact that they gave Dragon several high BP moves with wide distribution and virtually no drawbacks. And GF's obstinate refusal to nerf/buff things and preferring to make something to counter it instead.

Dragon isn't hot offensively, but a 120 BP Outrage that more than half of all Dragons could use, with STAB and potentially coming off one or more Dragon Dances is gonna hurt regardless of it not hitting super effectively.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2016 15:11:13 No.27080002 Report

Quoted By: >>27080116

Ice should just resist Dragon and Fairy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2016 15:18:59 No.27080104 Report

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>>27079243
Dragon was pretty good defensively up until Gen 6. Obviously if you're using Steel as your benchmark for good, it was mediocre but it had four useful resistances and two easy to predict weaknesses, so i'd rank it with poison in terms of defensive merit

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2016 15:20:02 No.27080116 Report

Quoted By: >>27080141

>>27080002
>nerfing dragon again

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2016 15:22:25 No.27080141 Report

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>>27080116
dragons have a lot of coverage moves

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