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Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 17:18:50 No.27166638 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>27166676 >>27166737 >>27166761 >>27166763 >>27166799 >>27166818 >>27166827 >>27166831 >>27166870 >>27166947 >>27166970 >>27166998 >>27167492 >>27167497 >>27167556 >>27167649

>X/Y was shit
>ORAS was shit
>"B-But SM are going to be the hypest thing ever, you guys!!!"

There are people on this board who unironically believe this and they'll be the same ones crying on /vp/ when GF disappoints yet again.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 17:20:47 No.27166676 Report

Quoted By: >>27166747 >>27167563

>>27166638
>genwunner genwuns

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 17:22:50 No.27166716 Report

Quoted By: >>27166797 >>27167057

x and y were good tho, just take off xp share, i don't need post game so many other games to play, sun and moon look prime tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 17:23:35 No.27166727 Report

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People will keep playing the games no matter how shit they get. It's like Halo or Final Fantasy, where they have reached a level of popularity they can't fail financially anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 17:24:09 No.27166737 Report

Quoted By: >>27166765 >>27167661

>>27166638
Every feature so far has shown they've learned from their mistakes in XY

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 17:25:16 No.27166747 Report

Quoted By: >>27166797

>>27166676
Pokemon is nothing without genwun
See XY and Pokemon go

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 17:26:15 No.27166761 Report

Quoted By: >>27167425

>>27166638
>X/Y was shit
>ORAS was shit
>this is what muh postgame fags believe

X/Y and ORAS were great. If you honestly find a game bad because you don't have some special facility that switches the rules up ever so slightly, then you really need to reconsider your values in life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 17:26:21 No.27166763 Report

Quoted By: >>27166881

>>27166638
Only XY was shit.
ORAS was fine, just really disappointing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 17:26:43 No.27166765 Report

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>>27166737
Like what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 17:27:08 No.27166775 Report

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Gen IV was shit but look at gen V

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 17:28:45 No.27166797 Report

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>>27166716
There are more problems than that.
>>27166747
Pandering doesn't equal quality.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 17:29:00 No.27166799 Report

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>>27166638
>X/Y was shit
Speak for yourself, I loved XY.
>ORAS was shit
Only inasmuch as RS were shit. I liked a lot of the new features, especially the new Nav functions and Mallville

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 17:30:16 No.27166818 Report

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>>27166638
You have sit opinions. Sorry bro

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 17:31:11 No.27166827 Report

Quoted By: >>27167026

>>27166638
>dem legs
Who has better legs? Misty or Dawn?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 17:31:14 No.27166831 Report

Quoted By: >>27166958

>>27166638
ORAS was great

But I skipped R/S/E so I never actually got to play them. The additional features were a godsend, soaring is neat, and I like how they added in extra legendaries so that you can complete a pokedex in Gen6 alone.

XY was boring, will admit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 17:33:03 No.27166870 Report

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>>27166638
>>"B-But SM are going to be the hypest thing ever, you guys!!!"
im pretty hype for it, but i also realize that it has a high chance of being absoloute garbage. also i realize that a lot of people don't even care about pokemon anymore (other than GO) and as such getting hype for it would be really hard.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 17:33:56 No.27166881 Report

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>>27166763
Basically this, but ORAS was disappointing enough to sour the generation for me. SM looks promising, but Gamefreak is known to cock up potentially good games.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 17:39:29 No.27166947 Report

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>>27166638
Well, just because everything post-Platinum was shit doesnt mean we won't ever get a good game again
I have hope

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 17:39:52 No.27166958 Report

Quoted By: >>27167117 >>27167187

>>27166831
And ORAS fucked up the legendary quests. You soar to a tiny island. there's little to nothing but a Hoopa ring. Legendary is there. Then use internet to get more to appear because the game doesn't allude to them, or even have an exposition dump. It's literally a way to make the soaring not seem like a waste of programming time. They could have had actual quests to obtain these legendary pokemon, utilize some NPCs, but again Gamefreak took the lazy route.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 17:40:19 No.27166970 Report

Quoted By: >>27167019

>>27166638
Do you have any points to explain your opinion?

I don't know how SM will be exactly, but it will at least be a high quality, playable game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 17:42:04 No.27166998 Report

Quoted By: >>27167114

>>27166638
Who gives a fuck, GF gave us shirtless shotas, all is well in the world.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 17:43:08 No.27167019 Report

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>>27166970
>but at least it will be a playable game.
Fixed that for you. We'll have to wait and see if it pulls a Gen 6 on us. Hopefully not.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 17:43:23 No.27167026 Report

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>>27166827
Probably Misty, but I prefer skirts to shorts.

But put Misty in a kimono, and there's no contest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 17:45:10 No.27167057 Report

Quoted By: >>27167085 >>27167150

>>27166716

>i don't need post game

Do you just buy new pokemon games to play through the story, then put down and forget?

Have you not realised that you've been playing essentially the same game over the past 20 years? Post-game has been one of the main distinctions between games.

Also X&Y's main game was very shallow, some of the smallest 'dungeons' with the few pokemon trainers having an average of 2 to 3 waste pokemon. I liked the little bits where you could ride pokemon but they were so under-utilised, and I hated how mewtwo and the legendary birds just turned up in a fucking one room cave, what a cop-out.

The only good thing that came out of X&Y in my opinion is the improvements on breeding that has made breeding competitive pokemon much less grindy.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 17:45:53 No.27167068 Report

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IDK, I had a lot of fun with XY and ORAS 2bh. SM looks pretty good too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 17:46:54 No.27167085 Report

Quoted By: >>27167141

>>27167057
>Do you just buy new pokemon games to play through the story, then put down and forget?

Yeah.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 17:48:40 No.27167114 Report

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>>27166998
Why is no one commenting?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 17:48:46 No.27167117 Report

Quoted By: >>27167279 >>27167480

>>27166958
>They could have had actual quests to obtain these legendary pokemon, utilize some NPCs, but again Gamefreak took the lazy route.
That's what their mascot games are for. The legendaries in ORAS are just for ease of access/pokedex completion, rather than daisychaining a decade's worth of games to transfer shit.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 17:50:24 No.27167141 Report

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>>27167085

Then you're a fucking maverick and I kind of love you. But seriously, X&Y should have had a lot more time put into it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 17:51:01 No.27167150 Report

Quoted By: >>27167480

>>27167057
>Also X&Y's main game was very shallow, some of the smallest 'dungeons' with the few pokemon trainers having an average of 2 to 3 waste pokemon.
Yet people love fifth gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 17:53:10 No.27167187 Report

Quoted By: >>27167457

>>27166958
>you go to a place and legendary is there
Boo-fucking-hoo. What a new thing.

>Then use internet to get more to appear because the game doesn't allude to them, or even have an exposition dump
>i'm so casual i need internet to search legendaries

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 17:58:41 No.27167279 Report

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>>27167117
Literally no excuse for lazily scattering legendaries everywhere that take no effort to get to. Most people don't like the lazy route, they want the game to engage them. With ORAS, it was a matter of "which portals have I already visited?" When it could have been "Well I just got back from exploring the volcano, maybe I should check out the ice ruins." or whetever. A sense of actual adventure, you know, the premise of the game. A pokemon ADVENTURE.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 18:09:19 No.27167425 Report

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>>27166761
You think that's the only reason?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 18:11:30 No.27167457 Report

Quoted By: >>27167584

>>27167187
>You figured out how to get Regigigas to appear all on your own
>You figured out the time of day bullshit on your own
Sure you did.
>What a new thing.
Yes, yes it is. Almost always there was a dungeon/cave leading up to the legendary, or some story resolution. At the very least you had to hunt the thing down because it ran off and was wandering around the region. This whole "Bam, here's a legendary" thing is exclusive to Gen 6. They even did it with the XY mewtwo.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 18:13:27 No.27167480 Report

Quoted By: >>27167853

>>27167117
I loved how HGSS added lore with the Embedded Tower and Sinnoh Ruins. The region is now more interesting as a result.

>>27167150
The dungeons in BW weren't shallow. Twist Mountain and Pinwheel Forest were great. Santalune Forest was just Viridian Forest, and even then Viridian Forest has better aesthetics

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 18:14:36 No.27167492 Report

Quoted By: >>27167501

>>27166638
>>X/Y was shit
>>ORAS was shit
Nice meme.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 18:15:04 No.27167497 Report

Quoted By: >>27167517

>>27166638

I liked X and Y much better than any of the shit that was Gen 3-5 so you can kindly fuck off

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 18:15:24 No.27167501 Report

Quoted By: >>27167520

>>27167492
he isn't wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 18:16:32 No.27167517 Report

Quoted By: >>27167563

>>27167497
Probably because of the genwunner pandering. Got your nostalgia boner rock hard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 18:16:39 No.27167520 Report

Quoted By: >>27167538

>>27167501

Literally nobody but autistic fat Smogon fags on /vp/ believes this

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 18:18:00 No.27167538 Report

Quoted By: >>27167571

>>27167520
>generalizing
I can do it too. Only underage believe XY and ORAS were actually good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 18:19:20 No.27167556 Report

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>>27166638
>implying gen 6 was shit in any capacity

>believing your own delusion

>posting that delusion on a pokemon imageboard frequented by underage spaz kids for validation and/or to troll

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 18:20:20 No.27167563 Report

Quoted By: >>27167590

>>27166676
>>27167517
>If you hate X/Y you're a genwunner
>If you like X/Y you're a genwunner

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 18:20:39 No.27167571 Report

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>>27167538

>It's only popular because of nostalgia pandering!
>It's only popular for little kids!

And through pointing out a simple contradiction it's easy to see how you fat autists are full of shit.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 18:22:21 No.27167584 Report

Quoted By: >>27167616 >>27167673

>>27167457
>This whole "Bam, here's a legendary" thing is exclusive to Gen 6.
Indeed.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 18:22:54 No.27167590 Report

Quoted By: >>27167868

>>27167563
The only way to win is to have never played it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 18:23:17 No.27167597 Report

Quoted By: >>27167638

can we stop this gen war bullshit?

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 18:24:32 No.27167616 Report

Quoted By: >>27167633 >>27167673

>>27167584
Surely they wouldn't put a random legendary in a random place in past gens.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 18:25:50 No.27167633 Report

Quoted By: >>27167669

>>27167616
Old GF would never do that.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 18:26:00 No.27167638 Report

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>>27167597

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 18:26:35 No.27167649 Report

Quoted By: >>27167673

>>27166638
people like you need to leave if pokemon is so shit why are you here? and i know its bait but there are many who dont bait

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 18:27:09 No.27167661 Report

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>>27166737
>STILL framedrops
Retard

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 18:27:52 No.27167669 Report

Quoted By: >>27167760 >>27167844 >>27167967

>>27167633
Old GF would put legendaries inside long or annoying dungeons before fighting them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 18:28:07 No.27167673 Report

Quoted By: >>27167760

>>27167616
You don't know the thematic reason it showed up by a museum?

>>27167584
Embedded Tower was built by ancient Johto people for Rayquaza to land at.

Both bad arguments.

>>27167649
People can be here and only like past games. I thought ORAS was fine but I won't tell someone to leave because the disagree.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 18:35:43 No.27167760 Report

Quoted By: >>27167844

>>27167669
Just look at this one. Super long dungeon.

>>27167673
>muh arguments
I don't give a a damn about your babbling and the thematic reasons, i can say "Zekrom was cool, you needed a lv100 Pokemon that thematically represented the maximum level of trust a Pokemon can get for his trainer" and it have the same value.
Questless 1-room dungeons aren't good, regardless of gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 18:42:16 No.27167844 Report

Quoted By: >>27167963

>>27167760
The argument is that legendaries are randomly there for no reason in ORAS. Just in a ring that you step inside and catch and leave. You showing legendaries in areas that were given story and thematic reasons for being there does nothing but strengthen the argument of people you argue with.

>>27167669
This showing up after power comes back to the area.

Keep posting pics though. You're doing great

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 18:42:53 No.27167853 Report

Quoted By: >>27167921

>>27167480
Pinwheel forest is the closest thing we'll get to another true Safari Zone, good-ass area that didn't feel like another mindless dungeon. Pokemon needs less caves in general. XY had the balls to include Zubat Roost, THE LITERAL EMBODIMENT OF EVERYTHING PEOPLE HATE ABOUT THE SERIES DUNGEONS

That being said, Chargestone cave was almost bad but filling it with cool Pokemon you haven't seen before made it much better, if it was just full of Zubat and Graveler it would've been shit. Twist Mountain was bad though, super maze-y and bland Pokemon selection. Victory road was one of the most tolerable in the entire series though, all-in-all BW had one of the best overall dungeon experience in the series

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 18:44:09 No.27167868 Report

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>>27167590
>no deito in the sky
>no romantic outing in fancy cafe
>no frolicking walk through forest full of berries and qt pokemon
>no "happy forever after" comfy end with Brendan as stay-at-home pokeprof and May as adventurous archaeologist
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
ROMHACKS FUCKING WHEEEEE

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 18:47:54 No.27167921 Report

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>>27167853
Chargestone Cave had good aesthetics and a good traveling gimmick though. Johto, Unova and Kalos have got tier caves. I can't deny the good caves Kalos had, even if I don't like a lot of it.

But yeah it had shit too, Zubat Roost being one

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 18:50:48 No.27167963 Report

Quoted By: >>27168011 >>27168048

>>27167844
>The argument is that legendaries are randomly there for no reason in ORAS.
Again, you've been told time and time again they're there because TPC wants to let you complete the Pokedex with only needing the current generation games/handheld, without having to do a chain of transfers and trades.

So you can keep arguing "no reason", but "interdimensional portals" is probably the best one rather than having a contrived reason for why a legendary pokemon is outside of its native location.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 18:51:02 No.27167967 Report

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>>27167669
Zapdos didn't even appear in GSC, you twit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 18:54:21 No.27168011 Report

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>>27167963
I don't think its bad, and I definitely understand that reason. I just prefer it the way HGSS does it. The world feels more real that way.

ORAS prioritized ease of access while HGSS prioritized fleshing out the world and making the most of features.

You can just admit its different in Gen 6 rather than imply it was always that way. No harm in doing that friend

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jul 2016 18:58:12 No.27168048 Report

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>>27167963
There's a difference between an in-game reason and a reason from a design perspective. HGSS had a shitload of legendaries that were "outside of its native location" but you know what they did? They added NPCs who alluded to them, they created new areas for them, they created quest chains to get them, they actually bothered to make them feel like they were supposed to be in the game and not just tacked-on DLC. Even BW2 did a better job with the whole Key Trading aspect in order to get all the Regis. I agree with you that they were put in the game to ease the burden of obtaining years worth of legendaries, but that doesn't mean they didn't do it lazily.

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