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Anonymous Tue 26 Jul 2016 07:26:51 No.27366478 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>27366561 >>27366587 >>27368096 >>27368231 >>27368374 >>27368524

Why are the stats so shit :( you'd think something as smart as it was is would have way higher special attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Jul 2016 07:36:10 No.27366531 Report

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Gen 1/2 Disease. Almost all the pokemon had Average stats across the board and slightly excelled in one or 2 areas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Jul 2016 07:41:19 No.27366561 Report

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>>27366478
I would have thought it would mirror Arcanine a little better at least

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Jul 2016 07:47:44 No.27366587 Report

Quoted By: >>27368394

>>27366478
It did in gen 1. I have no idea why gamefreak felt like they had to nerf it with the special split.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Jul 2016 08:17:31 No.27366735 Report

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I just realized that Ninetales' body looks really dumb. At least in this art.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Jul 2016 13:06:23 No.27368096 Report

Quoted By: >>27368394 >>27368458 >>27369310

>>27366478
Ninetales is 50 points behind where Arcanine, it's supposed counterpart, is at. Given the choice, I'd make its stats look like this. (+10/+5/+5/+10/+20/+0)

If it has to give up Drought for this, it's fine. Drought never fit it thematically anyway, and something like Magic Guard would be more suited to it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Jul 2016 13:28:33 No.27368231 Report

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>>27366478
You can still use it as a specially defensive wall. You can also use it to counter rain teams. It's just that there's other pokemon that so it's job better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Jul 2016 13:48:52 No.27368374 Report

Quoted By: >>27368770 >>27369422

>>27366478
>be arcanine's counterpart
>be related to spirits, psychic powers and shit
>don't get any relevant attack for 3 gens
>don't get any relevant ability for 2 gens since the ability introduction
>whole level up movepool is cockblocked by flash fire pokemon
>gorillions of curse and disabling ablities to fit the lore but no destiny bond
>can't even learn morning sun or moonlight
>dex description make it sounds more legendary and mythical that arcanine the legendary pokemon species is
>only had flash fire as main ability and not even flame body or cursed body later in gen 5
>have a relevant BST difference with arcanine
>meanwhile the other furbait dog gets shitloads of coverage attacks, higher BST, new egg moves, recovery, priorities and much more

Not to forget Houndoom was introduced suddenly after Ninetales and so were Typhlosion. Houndoom only has those 95 base speed compared to Ninetales 100 and a less defensive stats that aren't really relevant if a Pokemon was meant to be offensive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Jul 2016 13:51:56 No.27368394 Report

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>>27366587
>>27368096
I assume it just had base 100 special stat in gen 1

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Jul 2016 13:58:51 No.27368449 Report

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is my favorit and makes me cry all the time

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Jul 2016 13:59:50 No.27368458 Report

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>>27368096
>giving it the exact same stats as arcanine
why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Jul 2016 14:03:07 No.27368484 Report

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>>27368458
?
those aren't arcanine's stats

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Jul 2016 14:10:02 No.27368524 Report

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>>27366478
A mega with Solar Power will fix it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Jul 2016 14:27:23 No.27368648 Report

Quoted By: >>27368709

Just make it fire/fairy, rise its sp attack and Speed a bit (many pokemon got upgraded in gen 6) upgrade its movepool ffs

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Jul 2016 14:35:58 No.27368709 Report

Quoted By: >>27368713

>>27368648
HA: serene grace

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Jul 2016 14:36:46 No.27368713 Report

Quoted By: >>27368796

>>27368709
drought > serene grace

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Jul 2016 14:44:21 No.27368770 Report

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>>27368374
Yeah it's really weird that Ninetales got somewhat cucked. It's a popular Pokémon, it's gorgeous, it's based on one of the most important Japanese mythical creatures, and it could be so much more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Jul 2016 14:44:51 No.27368774 Report

Quoted By: >>27368796 >>27368803 >>27369241 >>27369315

It sucks that they nerfed weather so hard.
Ninetales' days in the sun are long gone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Jul 2016 14:46:57 No.27368796 Report

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>>27368713
This>>27368774

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Jul 2016 14:47:33 No.27368803 Report

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>>27368774
Get out. Now. Just go. Leave.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Jul 2016 15:43:58 No.27369241 Report

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>>27368774
>It sucks that they nerfed weather so hard.

No it doesn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Jul 2016 15:56:39 No.27369310 Report

Quoted By: >>27369324

>>27368096
>Being this wimpy with distribution

Anon, you gotta account for power creep. Here:

73
76
75
120
100
111

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Jul 2016 15:57:40 No.27369315 Report

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>>27368774
Weather wars were horrible, don't even joke about that.

not that megas are much better, but...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Jul 2016 15:59:07 No.27369324 Report

Quoted By: >>27369377

>>27369310
You are the reason the power/speed creep exists and we can't have nice things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Jul 2016 16:07:49 No.27369377 Report

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>>27369324
Blame Gamefreak, not me. I was just trying to make sure an old Pokemon could keep up. They should do that for all old Pokemon, honestly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Jul 2016 16:12:33 No.27369422 Report

Quoted By: >>27372021

>>27368374
I think the biggest issue with mon that could be better but aren't is that GameFreak doesn't care enough to keep older Pokemon up to date. A little stat boost here and there wouldn't hurt anything, they should have been doing from Gen 2/Gen 3. Gen 3 felt like the perfect opportunity to do it.

They need a dedicated team to go over older Pokemon stats, movepools, abilities, test said Pokemon, and buff or nerf accordingly.

But, kid's RPG, so who cares, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Jul 2016 18:14:43 No.27370862 Report

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Some Pokémon are going to suck, accept it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Jul 2016 19:28:21 No.27372021 Report

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>>27369422

I was surprised they even bothered to update pokemon stats in gen 6. They only did a little bit here and there, but still, I was shocked. I hope its something they do more of in gen 7.

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