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Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 15:25:38 No.27383696 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>27383715 >>27383717 >>27383733 >>27383772 >>27383886 >>27384000

what starter type do you think is best designed over the years?

I cast my vote with grass

Alphaville !!TORtoOQMEfy

Alphaville !!TORtoOQMEfy Wed 27 Jul 2016 15:26:15 No.27383706 Report

Quoted By: >>27383797 >>27383897

I like water more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 15:26:56 No.27383715 Report

Quoted By: >>27383721 >>27383927 >>27384473

>>27383696
Grass definitely, the only weak designs are chesnaut and venosaur

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 15:26:58 No.27383716 Report

Quoted By: >>27383735 >>27383910

Water. Only Samurott really lets the team down, the rest are respectable at worst, great at best.

Grass is second, then fire.

TopKec !UNSTjHdDlA

TopKec !UNSTjHdDlA Wed 27 Jul 2016 15:26:58 No.27383717 Report

Quoted By: >>27383729 >>27383732

>>27383696
I don't recall a Poison-type that I don't like. So casting my vote there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 15:27:20 No.27383721 Report

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>>27383715
>Being this wrong

TopKec !UNSTjHdDlA

TopKec !UNSTjHdDlA Wed 27 Jul 2016 15:28:00 No.27383729 Report

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>>27383717
I misread the question.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 15:28:09 No.27383732 Report

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>>27383717
>starter type

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 15:28:19 No.27383733 Report

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>>27383696

The only water starter I find mediocre is Samurott.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 15:28:43 No.27383735 Report

Quoted By: >>27383910

>>27383716
I actually agree with this. Samurott's the only weak link.

Grass is very close though, Meganium and Chesnaught are just kind of mediocre.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 15:32:48 No.27383772 Report

Quoted By: >>27383784

>>27383696
Water. There's not a single bad design for water, just mediocre in the case of Blastoise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 15:33:49 No.27383784 Report

Quoted By: >>27383795 >>27383800 >>27383817 >>27383818 >>27383824 >>27383870

>>27383772
Samurott has the worst starter design in the series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 15:34:29 No.27383795 Report

Quoted By: >>27383818

>>27383784
you think Chesnaut is any better?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 15:34:40 No.27383797 Report

Quoted By: >>27383897

>>27383706
alomomola is no a starter

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 15:34:57 No.27383800 Report

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>>27383784
>There are real people who believe this

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 15:35:57 No.27383817 Report

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>>27383784
Fuck off, the only thing "wrong" with Samurott is that it should have been Bipedal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 15:35:58 No.27383818 Report

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>>27383784
>>27383795
They're both great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 15:36:27 No.27383824 Report

Quoted By: >>27384177

>>27383784
>venosaur

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 15:40:15 No.27383870 Report

Quoted By: >>27383921 >>27384668

>>27383784
my issue with samurott is that is looks almost nothing like it's predecessors. it just looks like a different pokemon

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 15:41:24 No.27383886 Report

Quoted By: >>27383892

>>27383696
Water. by far.

The only type that didn't get fucked over in gen's 5 and 6

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 15:42:05 No.27383892 Report

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>>27383886
Serperior is great though

Deltaville !!NoqL6Nayacu

Deltaville !!NoqL6Nayacu Wed 27 Jul 2016 15:42:10 No.27383897 Report

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>>27383706
>>27383797
Neither is Luvdisk

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 15:43:05 No.27383910 Report

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>>27383716
>>27383735

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 15:43:53 No.27383921 Report

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>>27383870
That's the fault of the middle evo. Both Chesnaught and Samurott suffer from this. They have perfectly good and nice designs but have shit like Quilladin and Dewott, two terrible designs that don't connect the stages properly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 15:44:21 No.27383927 Report

Quoted By: >>27383966

>>27383715
how is venosaur a weak design? it's use of color is brilliant

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 15:45:36 No.27383945 Report

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at least everyone agrees fire starters have been a fucking design rollercoaster

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 15:47:07 No.27383966 Report

Quoted By: >>27383987 >>27384342

>>27383927
While I don't hate Venusaur, I do agree its not one of the best. I normally hate the "it gets bigger" card, but it feels true in this case. Especially when its contemporaries Charizard and Blastoise get something different at this stage (wings and cannons), it just gets bigger and its flower blooms more. I always felt like it was missing something, though I couldn't say what. Its a shame because Bulbasaur and Ivysaur are great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 15:48:34 No.27383986 Report

Quoted By: >>27384007 >>27384234

Water. Theyre all decent although Blastoise is meh

Then fire. Everythings ok until the abomimations known as Emboar and Delphox

Grass is the worst one. Venusaur and Torterra are decent at best, the others are all shit, especially shitnaught.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 15:48:40 No.27383987 Report

Quoted By: >>27384054

>>27383966
Nigga what?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 15:49:21 No.27384000 Report

Quoted By: >>27384300

>>27383696
Grass, and not just for starters. The type consistently has the best designs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 15:49:49 No.27384007 Report

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>>27383986
We've reached new levels of wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 15:53:25 No.27384054 Report

Quoted By: >>27384153

>>27383987
Take your time

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 15:59:58 No.27384153 Report

Quoted By: >>27384330

>>27384054
Just waiting for that answer on the backwards thought process.
Don't know how the mon that had the most consistent, detailed evolution line is worse than "Lel Wings, Lel Cannons"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 16:01:50 No.27384177 Report

Quoted By: >>27384267

>>27383824
Wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 16:06:27 No.27384234 Report

Quoted By: >>27384514

>>27383986
venosaur is decent
blastoise is meh

so what's the case with this one? 16 year old anit-genwunner? or false flag maybe ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 16:08:27 No.27384267 Report

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>>27384177
Can you give a reason why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 16:10:52 No.27384300 Report

Quoted By: >>27384320

>>27384000
This. Except for a few duds here and there (why did they make carnivine and maractus?) grass always presents some really cool designs in every gen. Exeggutor is one of my favorites; great taste anon.

As for the OP, I'd agree that grass has the best designs, followed by water, and then fire. Three fire fighters does not help its case.

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Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 16:12:35 No.27384320 Report

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>>27384300
great taste I tip my pizza

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 16:13:39 No.27384330 Report

Quoted By: >>27384360

>>27384153
Not sure where you getting its any more detailed than most evolutionary lines. It gets bigger and the flower blooms. And thats fine and all, it just make it seem like it didnt get something when next to the dragon and the cannon turtle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 16:15:19 No.27384342 Report

Quoted By: >>27384365

>>27383966
But that's what makes it a great design. You knew where it was going to some degree, and the concept itself is really good. I don't even like Venusaur, but the evolution line is possibly the best in the franchise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 16:17:33 No.27384360 Report

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>>27384330
It's a coherent design. The bud is extremely detailed. The other two literally go from "Bigger Starter" to "WINGS CANNONS WOOOOO"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 16:18:04 No.27384365 Report

Quoted By: >>27384437

>>27384342
I think we must agree to disagree anon. Like I said, I don't hate Venusaur in any case; its just not a favourite compared to some others.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 16:18:40 No.27384373 Report

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>Blaziken
>Charizard
>Typhlosion

not choosing Fire type.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 16:19:30 No.27384383 Report

Quoted By: >>27384579

Fire Type definitely has the best overall starter designs
Only type with 3 High tier starters: Charizard, Typhlosion and Delphox
2 Mid tier: Blaziken and Emboar
and 1 Low tier: Infernape

Litten looks decent so far too

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 16:23:27 No.27384437 Report

Quoted By: >>27384474

>>27384365
That's fine, it's not my favourite compared to others either, it's not something I like using, or like the look of, but I think the way it was handled - the dinosaur with a bulb that blooms in to a poisonous plant - is pretty great. I definitely prefer it to Charizard and Blastoise though. They don't have the concept or interesting design, just standard "it's badass" appeal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 16:26:07 No.27384473 Report

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>>27383715
Exactly this

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 16:26:14 No.27384474 Report

Quoted By: >>27384512

>>27384437
>That's fine, it's not my favourite compared to others either, it's not something I like using, or like the look of, but I think the way it was handled - the dinosaur with a bulb that blooms in to a poisonous plant - is pretty great. I definitely prefer it to Charizard and Blastoise though. They don't have the concept or interesting design, just standard "it's badass" appeal.

Maybe its arrested development on my behalf. I remember as a kid when I first evolved Charmeleon getting excited about my awesome new dragon. Same with Blastoise sporting new cannons, kid me loved that stuff. When I saw what Ivysaur turned into it just seemed so underwhelming.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 16:28:28 No.27384512 Report

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>>27384474
I hated it as a kid, too. At the time, I just saw a dopey looking toad with a flower on its back. Cannons and a dragon seemed way cooler. I guess I just grew to appreciate the design of that line, even if there is still a part of me that sees the dopey looking toad with a flower on its back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 16:28:32 No.27384514 Report

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>>27384234
>Venosaur
Fucking underage faggot?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 16:33:01 No.27384579 Report

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>>27384383
>being this wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 16:33:37 No.27384595 Report

Quoted By: >>27384707

I wish it was Fire.

But it's definitely Water.

Blastoise, Feraligatr and Greninja are top-tier designs. Swampert and Empoleon aren't bad, and Samurott is...well, the best of Gen V at least.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 16:35:05 No.27384616 Report

Quoted By: >>27384627 >>27384642

Water

Blaziken and Delphox really bring down fire
and Grass is ruined by Meganium, Sceptile and Serperior

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 16:36:17 No.27384627 Report

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>>27384616
>Sceptile ruined grass

>Not chestnaught

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 16:37:22 No.27384642 Report

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>>27384616
Fuck you Sceptile and Serperior are amazing

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 16:38:59 No.27384668 Report

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>>27383870
That's why I said it's terrible. Every starter has some kind of flow, Samurott's only link is that it removes the shells on its arms to attack. Everything else just looks awkward as fuck.

It should've been bipedal, it really should've.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 16:39:20 No.27384677 Report

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Water by a landslide. Has god tier Swampert, Empoleon, Samurott and Blastoise

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 16:41:53 No.27384707 Report

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>>27384595
Serperior is the best of gen V. Samurott and Emboar are both rolling in a pile of shit.

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Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2016 16:47:34 No.27384781 Report

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Grass for sure.

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