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Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 11:43:55 No.27397329 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>27397344 >>27397355 >>27397376 >>27397553 >>27399203 >>27399469 >>27399752 >>27400159

>Dark Void
>Moody
>Moody always seems to boost evasion, accuracy or speed

This thing is seriously fucking aids and I just remembered why I quit competitive Pokemon a while ago. Yeah I'm not returning to this literal cancer.

>BUT OP, JUST USE TAUNT
Lel fake out every fucking time.
>BUT OP, JUST PREDICT THAT AND USE PROTECT!
Lel feint every. FUCKING. TIME!

Yes I'm mad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 11:46:18 No.27397344 Report

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>>27397329
just play smogon, they banned that like two or three years ago

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 11:47:30 No.27397355 Report

Quoted By: >>27398543 >>27399307 >>27399403 >>27400133

>>27397329

I feel you... no wonder pokemon games sales are lowering every year, these games are pure cancer... no I'm serious moves like protect, fake out, stupid abilities ect. are just forced & never should exist

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 11:50:16 No.27397376 Report

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>>27397329
>my favourite pokemon is pretty much a shitposter

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 11:52:27 No.27397389 Report

Quoted By: >>27397450 >>27399269

Smeargle with
>Spore
>Lock On
>Sheer Cold

why is that not a thing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 11:53:02 No.27397394 Report

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>disliking art doge

git gud

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 11:59:15 No.27397450 Report

Quoted By: >>27397515 >>27397524

>>27397389
>Sturdy

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 12:08:02 No.27397515 Report

Quoted By: >>27397538

>>27397450
>what is fake out?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 12:09:32 No.27397524 Report

Quoted By: >>27397538

>>27397450
Doesn't Sheer Cold bypass Sturdy?
If not, just add Bullet Punch or something

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 12:10:51 No.27397538 Report

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>>27397524
>>27397515
sturdy is also a flat out immunity to ohko moves.

In fact this is what it did solely before it was buffed to be a focus sash as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 12:13:15 No.27397553 Report

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>>27397329
Just git gud. If you git gud enough, Smeargle will accumulate useless boosts like Attack and lower accuracy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 14:14:36 No.27398543 Report

Quoted By: >>27399403

>>27397355
All the scummy tactics in the game, and protect/fake out is what you take issue with?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 15:19:51 No.27399203 Report

Quoted By: >>27399235

>>27397329
I just Nuke it with Superpower or close combat or whatever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 15:22:10 No.27399235 Report

Quoted By: >>27399310

>>27399203
>Smeargle held on with its focus sash!
>Smeargle used dark void!
>Smeargles moody raised its evasion!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 15:26:06 No.27399269 Report

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>>27397389

At best you kill one Pokemon before you get rammed in your dog pussy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 15:30:15 No.27399307 Report

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>>27397355
OK buddy these moves aren't the problem

The Problem is the with power creep that is going on with megas and primals, you can have a good meta with "moves like protect, fake out,"

Plz get gud

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 15:30:31 No.27399310 Report

Quoted By: >>27399334

>>27399235
>Smeagle is damaged by sandstorm!
Tyranitar FTW.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 15:31:47 No.27399334 Report

Quoted By: >>27399387 >>27399469

>>27399310
>Desolate Land

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 15:35:31 No.27399387 Report

Quoted By: >>27399726 >>27400156

>>27399334

>Fights in a format that allows legendary Pokemon only to bitch about Smeargle

Gas yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 15:37:12 No.27399403 Report

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>>27398543
>scummy

I smell verlisify

>>27397355
While a lot of them are convoluted and broken in essence, this is still essentially a turn based combat game, you tell me what advanced and/or unique strategies you would program into it if you made your own

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 15:38:44 No.27399421 Report

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Oh, are we in doubles now? With a Primal Groudon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 15:44:00 No.27399469 Report

Quoted By: >>27399726

>>27397329
Why not just lead with a magic bounce mon or mirror coat if you hate painter dog so much op?

>>27399334
worry seed or gastro acid desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 16:03:58 No.27399726 Report

Quoted By:

>>27399387
Is Smeargle a problem in any other meta?>>27399469
But then you don't have sand up

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 16:06:25 No.27399752 Report

Quoted By: >>27399760

>>27397329
gee its not like substitute is a thing. OH WAIT

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 16:07:16 No.27399760 Report

Quoted By: >>27399767 >>27399791

>>27399752
You guys don't get it if you sub then the partner can set up

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 16:08:26 No.27399767 Report

Quoted By: >>27399794

>>27399760
what are defog, whirlwind, literally any priority moves after setting up a sub

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 16:11:04 No.27399791 Report

Quoted By: >>27399809

>>27399760
FUCKING MAGIC BOUNCE

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 16:11:16 No.27399794 Report

Quoted By: >>27399808

>>27399767
Smergles usually run Fake out, Follow Me, Spikey Sheild and Dark Void

This protects xern from these moves while it gets +2 fairy aura dazzling gleams

You Obvi dont play

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 16:12:49 No.27399808 Report

Quoted By: >>27399816 >>27399817 >>27399819

>>27399794
what in gods name is fake out going to accomplish aside from free minimal damage

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 16:12:54 No.27399809 Report

Quoted By: >>27399812 >>27399870

>>27399791
None of the magic bounce pokemon can stand up to xern

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 16:13:51 No.27399812 Report

Quoted By: >>27399816

>>27399809
so switch

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 16:14:34 No.27399816 Report

Quoted By: >>27399846

>>27399812
Then you get dark voided
>>27399808
It Lets xern set up geomancy

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 16:14:41 No.27399817 Report

Quoted By: >>27399846

>>27399808
Guaranteed flinch, stopping whichever of your mons is a bigger threat from moving for one turn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 16:14:43 No.27399819 Report

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>>27399808
>He doesn't play VGC

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 16:16:29 No.27399846 Report

Quoted By: >>27399858 >>27399901 >>27400831

>>27399816
why would you switch on smeargle? why would you not switch into a xerneas counter? it sounds like you just complain about what you can't do rather then what you could accomplish. >>27399817
oooo that sounds so crippling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 16:17:40 No.27399858 Report

Quoted By: >>27399880

>>27399846
There are no xern counters that counter smerg tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 16:18:44 No.27399870 Report

Quoted By: >>27399911 >>27399915

>>27399809
Special mega Absol using snatch

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 16:19:50 No.27399880 Report

Quoted By: >>27399911 >>27399938

>>27399858
stop making excuses there's plenty.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 16:21:17 No.27399901 Report

Quoted By: >>27399911 >>27399927

>>27399846
When it allows Xerneas to double three of its stats, or allows Groudon to fire off a precipice blades / full-hp eruption, it really is. Go try playing VGC 16 on showdown or whatever. Come back after you've faced a few dozen Xerneas/Groudon/Smeargle/Kangaskhan teams and tell me that they aren't cancerous.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 16:21:56 No.27399911 Report

Quoted By:

>>27399870
Enjoy getting Dazzling Gleamed
>>27399880
Besides Crobat which gets shit on by stuff what?
>>27399901
A reasonable anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 16:22:09 No.27399915 Report

Quoted By: >>27399938 >>27399989

>>27399870
Then get stucked for a turn into Geomancy and get rekt by a second turn Dazzling Gleam, yeah.

The best "counter" for Smeargle + Xerneas is Lum Berry Crobat/Bronzong

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 16:23:29 No.27399927 Report

Quoted By: >>27400022

>>27399901
git gud

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 16:24:32 No.27399938 Report

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>>27399880
Like what? Lum berry crobat with taunt and haze? That does fine, except when smeargle goes crafty shield while Xerneas geomancies, then switches into talon while Xern protects, then brave bird + dazzling KOs crobat and partner. Like >>27399915 said, you basically need double fairy resists along with taunt or safeguard, and basically all pairs like that get shat on by some combination of Groudon, Talonflame, and Salamence.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 16:28:43 No.27399989 Report

Quoted By: >>27400031 >>27400045 >>27400087

>>27399915
How do you get rekt by dazzling gleam when Xerneas is asleep from having dark void magic bounced?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 16:31:27 No.27400022 Report

Quoted By: >>27400140

>>27399927
Half of US nats top cut teams had Xerneas Groudon Smeargle, including both finalists. Considering its been the most prominent combination since the start of the season, I don't think it would still be so successful if it had any reliable counters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 16:32:23 No.27400031 Report

Quoted By:

>>27399989
It doesnt dark void into a magic bounce retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 16:33:53 No.27400045 Report

Quoted By: >>27400087

>>27399989
You're assuming that smeargle is just going to recklessly dark void. In a Bo3, or even Bo1 against a cautious player, your opponent will be expecting the magic bounce and will go for fake out or spiky shield + an attack to eliminate absol.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 16:36:59 No.27400087 Report

Quoted By:

>>27399989
>>27400045
Not to say that magic bounce is useless; somebody did win a regional using Espeon. It definitely discourages smeargle/xern, but you still have to outplay your opponent somewhat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 16:40:52 No.27400133 Report

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>>27397355
Pokemon sales are not lowering because of competitive gaming. It's lowering because it's the same fucking game every year. Outside of the community, nobody gives a shit to competitive Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 16:41:23 No.27400140 Report

Quoted By: >>27400162 >>27400637

>>27400022
Then find the Pachirisu that does and stop bitching. It's popular because it takes little effort and is very effective, that doesn't mean there is not an answer to it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 16:42:43 No.27400156 Report

Quoted By:

>>27399387
you didnt play vgc 2016

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 16:43:23 No.27400159 Report

Quoted By: >>27400202 >>27400284

>>27397329
Insomnia primeape
Vital throw throh with flame orb

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 16:43:29 No.27400162 Report

Quoted By: >>27400843

>>27400140
Patchi worked only because they're was no CHALK or Big 6

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 16:46:27 No.27400202 Report

Quoted By:

>>27400159
>supposed counters to smeargle that get insta bopped by xern and pdon
Wew lad
___________________________________

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 16:52:49 No.27400284 Report

Quoted By: >>27401479

>>27400159
Both bet raped by dazzling gleam...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 17:22:13 No.27400637 Report

Quoted By:

>>27400140
My point is that even with all the skilled players who've been trying to counter-team big 6, the team has only had to change very slightly to stay relevant (Cress/Zong over Talon, bulkier Groudon and Xern builds). It's definitely possible that somebody will break out a crazy new strategy at worlds that beats big 6 (without getting destroyed by everything else), but it's not a given that such a strategy even exists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 17:37:53 No.27400831 Report

Quoted By:

>>27399846
A free turn is super crippling, what the hell

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 17:39:06 No.27400843 Report

Quoted By:

>>27400162
I wish people would stop putting CHALK and Big 6 in the same boat. CHALK wasn't really a thing for most of the season-those mons were pretty popular individually, but that combination, particularly with those builds, wasn't widespread. We didn’t even see that much cresselia or heatran until the season was well underway, and scarf landorus was THE set until sometime around nats, and at worlds we saw life orb, sash, yache, and vest. The meta was actually kind of all over the place leading up to worlds - Japan Sand was still a thing, both US nats finalists were using Mega-Gardevoir teams, Charizard-Y Sun teams were having strong finishes, Mega venusaur won a bunch in Europe, etc. With such a wide field, counter-teaming is basically impossible because there's no telling what you might face. Instead, the top teams were these flexible builds that have few bad matchups but also few great ones, so a skilled player can use them to win against just about anything. Post-worlds, CHALK became the team to counter, so players started developing sets like Azumarill and Porygon2 which have positive matchups against it. Big 6 has been around since the start of this season, and people have yet to develop a hard counter to it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 18:26:57 No.27401479 Report

Quoted By: >>27401568

>>27400284
Xerneas used protect
Greninja used protect
Primeape used close combat, its super effective
Smeargle hang on its focus sash
Smeargle used dark void
Greninja protected itself
It does not affect Primeape...
Smeargle's moody raised its attack and lowered speed
Primeape used close combat, its super effective
Smeargle fainted
Greninja used trash can, its super effective
Greninja's protean made it poison type
Xerneas fainted

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 18:34:08 No.27401568 Report

Quoted By: >>27401646

>>27401479
Smeargle used fake out
Greninja flinched (or protect, either way not attacking)
Xerneas used geomancy
Primeape used close combat
Smeargle held on with its focus sash

Xerneas used dazzling gleam
Greninja fainted!
Primeape fainted!

Or if you sash greninja (which doesn't even OHKO Xern btw)
Come back Smeargle. Go, talonflame!
Xerneas used protect
Greninja used gunk shot, Xerneas protects itself
Primeape????

Talonflame used brave bird
Xerneas used dazzling gleam
Greninja fainted!
Primeape fainted!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 18:40:19 No.27401646 Report

Quoted By: >>27401749

>>27401568
>Xerneas used dazzling gleam
>Greninja avoided the attack using its bright powder
>Primeape lives on 1 hp with its focus band

:^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 18:49:25 No.27401749 Report

Quoted By:

>>27401646
Follow the battle maison's lead, run quick claw Muk. So many times I've lost my ludicolo to that stupid fast gunk shot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jul 2016 19:14:04 No.27401999 Report

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Hello, I have been trying to get this Pokemon for weeks now to no avail. Could somebody please help me out?

I tried breedingditto sub section on reddit and a few other places but they are all gigantic faggots.

McLovin(Ditto) @ Destiny knot
Ability: Imposter
Shiny: Yes
lvl:100
EVs: none
Jolly Nature
IVs: 31 everything
Pokeball
- Transform
OT Name: Logan

I put up a lvl2 female zigazgoon on GTS with message: thanks vp

I would appreciate this a lot. It doesn't even have to be shiny or the same nature. Thank you.

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