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Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 05:43:31 No.27410080 View View Reply Original Report

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Who fucked it up /vp/?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 05:52:03 No.27410151 Report

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Can you change the wings and the colors. The wings throw them off.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 05:57:18 No.27410191 Report

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Who fucked it up /vp/?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 06:00:21 No.27410224 Report

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Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 06:00:25 No.27410225 Report

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>>27410191
The same person behind this design i bet

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 06:04:48 No.27410265 Report

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>>27410224
Fuck now I want that Venofree

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 06:07:47 No.27410293 Report

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Your parents.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 06:10:05 No.27410318 Report

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>>27410080
My theory is that they did this on purpose. The caterpillar into the butterfly is the easiest, most stereotypical evolution that exists, so the mixed it up to restore that "mystery" by swapping its evolution out for something designed to evolve from something else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 06:10:38 No.27410325 Report

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>>27410225
Please don't compare one of the series' worst designs (Dragonite) to one of the series' best (Samurott)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 06:13:05 No.27410351 Report

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>>27410224
>that red eyed venomoth

i want it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 06:30:12 No.27410459 Report

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>>27410325
Is this a new meme that Im not aware of?
See a lot of people defending samurott lately

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 06:31:27 No.27410471 Report

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>>27410459
because samurott is fucking awesome while oshawot and dewott were goofy looking furbait

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 06:33:37 No.27410493 Report

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>>27410325
>one of the series' best (Samurott)
Don't kid yourself, mate, I love Samurott but that doesn't change the fact it's design far from the best.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 06:36:37 No.27410516 Report

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>>27410471
I don't understand why /vp/ loves Oshawott and Dewott but hates Samurott, it's better than bipedal feminine furbait like Delphox and bara furbait like what people don't want Litten to be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 06:37:51 No.27410528 Report

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>>27410471
The whole line looks like shit what are you smoking?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 06:41:18 No.27410552 Report

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>>27410325
just don't respond

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 06:41:24 No.27410553 Report

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>>27410516
People were just surprised. A lot of people hated Greninja at first for not being Frogadier 2.0 (who, just like Dewott, was wildly popular and the "cool" midstage). But Greninja has a neat typing and amazing ability to get a good rep. Samurott does not.

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Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 06:42:43 No.27410564 Report

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>>27410224

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 06:48:02 No.27410605 Report

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>>27410080
I hate this stupid fan theory so much.
Butterfree and venonat just both have generic bug faces for the designer's style.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 06:51:00 No.27410632 Report

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>>27410553
I can understand where they're coming from, I played BW blind and grew attached to Dewott and when I evolved it I regretted it. Eventually I got used to Samurott and it grew on me.
It's not one of my favourite Pokemon, but I still like it more than its prevolution, unlike Flygon which I can't say the same for.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 07:04:01 No.27410746 Report

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>>27410605
It's not a fan theory, it's a fact. You can't be this dense, you bitter stupid nerd.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 07:09:09 No.27410787 Report

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>>27410746
lel no
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_index_number_(Generation_I)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 07:17:55 No.27410852 Report

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>>27410787
>http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_index_number_(Generation_I)
>totally irrelevant to fucking up art assets
what the fuck are you trying to say

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 07:24:16 No.27410902 Report

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>>27410605
>Generic bug faces

If the eyes were the only similarities, I'd agree with you, but no other pokemon has that same face, let alone all of those other features.

This is also Gen 1, which is a notoriously messy generation with a lot of fuck-ups ESPECIALLY on the visual side.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 07:26:21 No.27410915 Report

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>>27410852
Pokemon was in development hell forever, when did the fuckup happen and how could no one catch it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 07:29:17 No.27410946 Report

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>>27410915
Not him, but there were tons like that, that we know about for a fact. Just look at the Green sprites, some of the designs are totally different.

Remember, a bunch of random people+Sugimori were basically throwing designs in. They were refined later on.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 07:31:31 No.27410965 Report

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The tail and ears made Warturtle look so great and then they were completely ignored with Blastoise.

very disappointing

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 07:31:55 No.27410970 Report

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>>27410946
That's not an art fuckup. Those are early design elements that were changed later.
They didn't accidentally program Butterfree in with the wrong sprite (and name? and typing? I'm not sure how much people are implying with this theory) and not catch it. The fact that there was so much design tweaking and refinement going on is evidence that they wouldn't overlook something like that.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 07:42:07 No.27411042 Report

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>>27410746
>it's a fact

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 07:48:00 No.27411080 Report

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>>27410970
"they didn't make a mistake because they wouldn't have made a mistake" lol lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 07:51:52 No.27411104 Report

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>>27411080
not that anon, but that's not a very good rebuttal. I'm inclined to believe that it's just the generic bug design like that other anon said, just like the generic monster design they had (see: Rhyhorn, Rhydon, Kangaskhan, incl. alpha art)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 07:53:26 No.27411116 Report

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>>27410080
wtf i hate game freak now

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 10:49:09 No.27412107 Report

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>>27410965
I want to know what the mentality behind Wartortle was. What is with those ears and that tail? Why do they all but vanish for super generic shit on Blastoise?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 11:45:29 No.27412488 Report

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Psyduck and Golduck have their names twisted.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 11:48:13 No.27412494 Report

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Who fucked it up /vp/?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 11:50:53 No.27412508 Report

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>>27410080
Although I do agree that it looks better, and makes more sense, I think it's just a case of reusing assets to save time/money.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 12:39:26 No.27412772 Report

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>>27411116
obviously paras was intended to evolve into venomoth originally

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 12:52:07 No.27412837 Report

Quoted By: >>27412876 >>27412905 >>27412928

ba-gon > shel-gon > salamence (the dra-gon who wanted to fly)
trapinch > vibrava > fly-gon
pretty sure these were also mixed up

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 12:53:10 No.27412842 Report

Quoted By: >>27412889

>>27410080
What's the worse "theory" this or squirtle being part squirrel?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 12:55:05 No.27412850 Report

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>>27412488
Holly shit I was so mad at this that I just had to take a shower, and literally started hyperventilating because the warmth made me too horny. Ended up almost crying because I wouldn't allow myself the orgasm until I turned on the very fucking cold water, which helped me calm down.
I just quit smoking weed four weeks ago, cigarettes two weeks ago and can tell you that ain't shit in comparison with this. I just want to feel like a real Psyduck.

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Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 12:57:45 No.27412866 Report

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>>27412850

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 12:58:48 No.27412876 Report

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>>27412837
This is a problem that only exists in the translation.

Presumably they came up with 'Flygon' for Salamence but then realized how it was a totally shitty representation of its Japanese name, so they just gave Flygon to the other flying Dragon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 13:00:02 No.27412889 Report

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>>27412842
I don't think anyone besides complete morons think Squirtle is meant to be a squirrel; However, I think it's fair to say the name Squirtle is a double entendre of "Squirt Turtle" and "Squirrel Turtle", since it's a result of a Western localisation team, and they knew most kids would recognize his tail as being squirrel-like, not as a trope of Japanese art.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 13:01:13 No.27412904 Report

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>>27410080
Actually it's been discussed that they wanted people to pick between a cute bug and a tough bug in early game of RB. Venomoth just didn't look appealing for early game.

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Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 13:01:16 No.27412905 Report

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>>27412837
>Flygon's Japanese name is Flygon
>Salamence actually looks looks like a salamander
>"mixed up"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 13:02:59 No.27412918 Report

Quoted By: >>27417185

>>27412488
doesn't that theory fall down when you consider jap names?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 13:04:57 No.27412928 Report

Quoted By: >>27415997

>>27412837
I doubt it.
Flygon comes from Dragonfly, which is an insect that resembles an adult antlion.
Salamence comes from Salamander, a mythological creature similar to a dragon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 13:05:43 No.27412936 Report

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What's so hard about it?
They wanted a different looking final evolution for either Caterpie or Venonat, so they just switched them in the design phase but didn't switch the eyes.
It's not exactly complicated.

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Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 16:46:52 No.27415171 Report

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>>27410224

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 16:52:53 No.27415249 Report

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>>27410080
Honestly this upsets me far, far more than it ever should.

How the fuck can I live with such inconsistency?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 16:53:36 No.27415256 Report

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>>27410224
Venomoth looks good, but Butterfree looks like it has googly eyes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 16:55:24 No.27415278 Report

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>>27410325
I know a lot of people have told you you're wrong, but you really need to know how wrong you are. Even if you are trolling (which is likely) there are still some of you out there who still think Samurott has a good design. He doesn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 16:57:12 No.27415308 Report

Quoted By: >>27415382

>>27415171
Can someone please shop these eyes onto Venonat?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 17:00:46 No.27415353 Report

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>>27410080
Probably the anime. They probably though butterfree would be cuter

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Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 17:03:45 No.27415382 Report

Quoted By: >>27415539

>>27415308

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 17:11:53 No.27415495 Report

Quoted By: >>27415549

>>27410080
No one fucked it up. Caterpillars and cocoons don't hatch into moths, do they? It was always intended to be a butterfly. They just used the same details over and over again in gen 1 for similar Pokemon. Pure coincidence.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 17:14:52 No.27415539 Report

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>>27415382
Hahaha

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 17:16:06 No.27415549 Report

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>>27415495
>Caterpillars and cocoons don't hatch into moths, do they?
Yes, actually that's exactly how it works
Did you really think moths come gnats?

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Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 17:16:33 No.27415553 Report

Quoted By: >>27416249 >>27416834

MOltres
Zapdos
ARTicuno

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 17:27:49 No.27415697 Report

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>>27410191
No one. Dragonite is perfection.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 17:46:20 No.27415997 Report

Quoted By: >>27416078 >>27416094

>>27412928
>Salamander, a mythological creature similar to a dragon.
I'm real fucking tired so I could be reading this incredibly wrong, but what

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 17:52:06 No.27416078 Report

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>>27415997
Mythological Salamanders were fire-breathing lizards, sort of like a dragon.
The animal is named after the myth, since they'd often be found scurrying away from burning firewood, giving the impression that they were being 'born' from fire.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 17:53:09 No.27416094 Report

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>>27415997
Salamander is a mythical creature, said to live in flames and be born in fire.

It stands to reason that a european fire breathign lizard would evolve from a european fire-dwelling lizard, which is why a Salamander evolves into a dragon.
Even if Charizard is consistently called a lizard, and never once it was called a Dragon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 17:58:53 No.27416188 Report

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>>27412107
Not saying any of the designs is bad nor good, but if I recall correctly Blastoise was designed first.
I'm guessing when they tried to design the middle evolution they got lost and didn't know how to make the jump from Squirtle to Blastoise, so just pasted some details on Wartortle and called it a day, which is probably how half the gen1 was done.
To be honest Wartortle looks way more generic shit than Blastoise to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 18:04:28 No.27416249 Report

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>>27415553
MOlTRES
ZapDOS
ARTicUNO

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 18:56:19 No.27416834 Report

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>>27415553
HOLY FUCKING SHIIIIT
HE IS STILL ALIVE

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 19:14:07 No.27417064 Report

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>>27410080
I am going to ask masuda about this and get it on video so I never have to see one of these threads ever again

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 19:19:13 No.27417121 Report

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>>27410224
That Butterfree has seen some shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 19:22:50 No.27417152 Report

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A friend of mine had an adamant argument that venonat evo'd into butterfree and wouldn't believe me at first. Good things shes hella cute.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 19:23:29 No.27417163 Report

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>>27410459
The past meme of "Samurott's factually shit because of this autistic laundry list of reasons" is starting to wear off. Thank god.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 19:26:14 No.27417185 Report

Quoted By: >>27417288

>>27412918
How does the japanese name have anything to do with the localization fuck up?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 19:35:27 No.27417288 Report

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>>27417185
Because Golduck is just its Japanese name romanized.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 21:12:04 No.27418450 Report

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>>27410224
I love it. But who hurt you, Butterfree?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 21:22:59 No.27418565 Report

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>>27415171
When the doctor checks your prostate

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 21:25:54 No.27418618 Report

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>>27412850
sauce on this pasta?

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