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Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 05:44:45 No.27410091 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>27410133 >>27410140 >>27410141 >>27410160 >>27410508 >>27410594 >>27410602 >>27410663 >>27410681 >>27412242 >>27412313

Why have ice types been royally shit on?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 05:49:02 No.27410128 Report

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THEY WONT STOP MAKING DEFENSIVE ICE TYPES

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 05:49:13 No.27410129 Report

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luv piloswine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 05:49:40 No.27410133 Report

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>>27410091
ice mons are k. the typing is just shit defensively.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 05:50:13 No.27410136 Report

Quoted By: >>27410508

No ice/fairy yet

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 05:50:48 No.27410140 Report

Quoted By: >>27410156

>>27410091
They've been given the cold shoulder.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 05:50:51 No.27410141 Report

Quoted By: >>27410566 >>27411537

>>27410091
>only 9 can be discerned as Ice type based on design

what the fuck

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 05:52:58 No.27410156 Report

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>>27410140
how can gf be this cold hearted

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 05:53:39 No.27410160 Report

Quoted By: >>27410519

>>27410091
They don't make faster ones with decent offenses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 06:09:17 No.27410304 Report

Quoted By: >>27411468

Because water types also learn ice type moves. Water is a fantastic defensive type, water is a good STAB to have, and using ice just for SE coverage means you aren't going to be missing the STAB too much.

Meanwhile, ice types are shit defensively, and a lot of them have defensive stats, meaning that a lot of them end up as middle of the road Pokemon that are easily exploitable by opponents.

GameFreak is trying to patch things up with exclusive moves like Freeze Dry, but its just not enough.

They honestly need to drop a few weaknesses and gain a resistance or two before they are useful.

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Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 06:35:38 No.27410508 Report

Quoted By: >>27410554 >>27410587

>>27410091
One of these things is not like the others... one of these thing is not dog shit!

>>27410136
Steel types say hello

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 06:36:52 No.27410519 Report

Quoted By: >>27410579

>>27410160
Weavile says hello

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 06:41:36 No.27410554 Report

Quoted By: >>27410566

>>27410508
>one of these thing is not dog shit!
Mamoswine is okay I guess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 06:43:00 No.27410566 Report

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>>27410141
I'm sorry, does it need to be white, have hexagons or litteraly spell out "ice" for you to see that? stuff like mamoswine, dewgong, jynx and weavile have subtlety to their designs. It doesn't make them good, but your argument is dumb.

>>27410554
I was a bit harsh, mamoswine, frosslass, and cloyster are all good. See a trend? those are the "speedy" ice types

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 06:44:59 No.27410579 Report

Quoted By: >>27410598

>>27410519
>exception is the rule
every time

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 06:45:29 No.27410582 Report

Quoted By: >>27410606 >>27410643

what they need to do is give it a water resistance, and give ice pokemon an ability where if they use an ice type move on a water pokemon theres a much higher chance of freezing it. like, %20 or something insane

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 06:46:04 No.27410587 Report

Quoted By: >>27410598

>>27410508
An ice fairy would be just fun. I don't care about steel types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 06:46:55 No.27410594 Report

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>>27410091
they're SE against dragons :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 06:47:31 No.27410598 Report

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>>27410579
He said they don't make them, they do, weavile is proof of concept, not an exception.

>>27410587
That's the spirit. It could be like a nice version of frosslass, a ice lady design, or something else?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 06:47:58 No.27410602 Report

Quoted By: >>27410629 >>27410634

>>27410091
>ice now resists rock
did I fix it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 06:48:09 No.27410606 Report

Quoted By: >>27410629

>>27410582
Maybe 30? that would change everything

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 06:50:31 No.27410629 Report

Quoted By: >>27410643

>>27410602
No. Ice needs to resist dragon and ground, now its fixed without fucking up the meta too badly

>>27410606
I've never understood why ice isn't SE on water, its dumb. It should be

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 06:51:18 No.27410634 Report

Quoted By: >>27410643 >>27411424

>>27410602
>resist rock
>resist water
>2x damage to water

There we go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 06:52:20 No.27410643 Report

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>>27410634
>>27410629
>>27410582
These are good ideas

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 06:53:40 No.27410658 Report

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Ice now resists Flying and Ground. How does this change the meta?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 06:53:52 No.27410663 Report

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>>27410091
I've always wondered why they designed Beartic with that odd patch of fur...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 06:55:38 No.27410681 Report

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>>27410091
Spheal is in my top 5 favorite pokemon

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Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 07:23:49 No.27410899 Report

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Why do so many well designed pokemon get such bad stats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 08:15:16 No.27411264 Report

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cloyster is actually very viable in UU with a shell smash set

Deltaville !!NoqL6Nayacu

Deltaville !!NoqL6Nayacu Fri 29 Jul 2016 08:46:04 No.27411424 Report

Quoted By: >>27411446

>>27410634
>>resist rock
>>resist water

Good call, also make it resist Grass
>>2x damage to water

Ice is a good enough offensive type already, since tons of non-ice types can learn ice beam.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 08:50:50 No.27411444 Report

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Doesn't help that they get destroyed by scizor and heatran, some of the most commonly used competitive pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 08:51:28 No.27411446 Report

Quoted By: >>27411465

>>27411424
>resist grass
stop this meme

Deltaville !!NoqL6Nayacu

Deltaville !!NoqL6Nayacu Fri 29 Jul 2016 08:54:25 No.27411465 Report

Quoted By: >>27411490

>>27411446
What would Plants do to fucking Ice? Nothing

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Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 08:55:03 No.27411468 Report

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>>27410304
I'd just be happy to have half decent health on ice mons..

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 08:56:24 No.27411473 Report

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I love ice types, especially from gen 4. Walrein isn't terrible either, but it would be nice if they made some that were a bit more competitively viable. I used Avalugg in my first playthrough of Y too, such a cool design.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 08:59:28 No.27411490 Report

Quoted By: >>27411521

>>27411465
If plant roots have no problem dealing with rocks in pokemon, they have no problem dealing with ice. There's plenty of plants that grow on perma frost.

Even then, if we wanted to make ice good. A grass resist wouldn't do that. Fucking everything in the game already resists grass. It's not a valuable resist.

Deltaville !!NoqL6Nayacu

Deltaville !!NoqL6Nayacu Fri 29 Jul 2016 09:04:12 No.27411521 Report

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>>27411490
I guess thats true...

What about Fairy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 09:06:35 No.27411537 Report

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>>27410141
I got at least 12, depending on what you pick up on

>Dewgong has a white coat
>Articuno's crest feathers are geometric, and the tail is supposed to be reminiscent of an aurora
>Swinub,Piloswine,Mamoswine have long fur, which is suited for the cold and Mamoswine is supposed to be half woolly mammoth, a creature commonly associated with the ice age
>Delibird, if you pick up on the Santa Claus imagery
>Snorunt if you read the gesture as shivering
>Glalie, has ice crystals, and hockey goalie mask imagery
>Spheal, Sealeo, Walrein, are walruses/sealions which can be found in cold/arctic climates, though not exclusively
>Regice, obvious
>Abamasnow, the white on green looks like snow on a tree
>Glaceon, has geometric patterns
>Froslass has crystals and white coloration
>Vanillish, obvious
>Cubchoo, Beartic, white fur, obviously polar bears
>Cryogonal, obvious
>Kyurem, crystals

So that makes only 6 pokemon on the OP image that are visually ambiguous.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 09:14:53 No.27411591 Report

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>Not weak to Rock
>Not weak to Fighting
>Resists Ground
>Resists Grass
Immune to Flying

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 11:09:01 No.27412242 Report

Quoted By: >>27412429

>>27410091
desu gen 4 was the best gen for ice types... if you exclude sneaky pebbles

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 11:21:17 No.27412313 Report

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>>27410091
Every fucking water mon learns ice beam

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jul 2016 11:36:49 No.27412429 Report

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>>27412242
Well, it WAS the snowy region

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