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Anonymous Sat 30 Jul 2016 18:31:46 No.27430430 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>27430478 >>27430481 >>27430568 >>27432084 >>27432642 >>27432654 >>27432667 >>27432680 >>27435070 >>27435181 >>27435301 >>27435622 >>27435715 >>27435970 >>27436121 >>27436945

>OU for six i say SIX straight generations

How does he do it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jul 2016 18:33:28 No.27430458 Report

Quoted By: >>27435747

It took Greninja being banned to put him back to OU for Gen VI.

So it seems like it's because he's a fast water type with a good movepool and high offense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jul 2016 18:34:48 No.27430478 Report

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>>27430430
>sanic
>rapid spinner that could kill gengar
>high versatility

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jul 2016 18:35:01 No.27430481 Report

Quoted By: >>27430499 >>27430501 >>27432159 >>27435357

>>27430430
Jolteon was for 5 now it's RU. What happened?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jul 2016 18:36:21 No.27430499 Report

Quoted By: >>27430535

>>27430481
Heliolisk, Galvantula, M-Manectric, and Raikou happened.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jul 2016 18:36:27 No.27430501 Report

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>>27430481
No rain
Too fragile for Priority

CartoonFan1994

CartoonFan1994 Sat 30 Jul 2016 18:39:12 No.27430535 Report

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>>27430499
And don't forget Thundurus, as well.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 30 Jul 2016 18:40:18 No.27430543 Report

Quoted By: >>27435859

HEY. HEY YOU.
YOU TOO MUCH OF A WIMP TO LEVEL UP?
ARE YOU STUCK IN PU?
BUILT LIKE A BIDOOF?
NOW, YOU TOO CAN HAVE OU.
WITH A WATER STONE!
IT'S BLUE AND A ROCK.
JUST SPEND CASH.
HOW HIGH YOU WANT YOUR TIER?
UU? OU? AND FOR THE RAYQUAZAS, AG.
I WAS IN LC BEFORE WATER STONE, AND NOW I'M A JERK AND EVERYBODY LOVES ME.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jul 2016 18:42:13 No.27430568 Report

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>>27430430
Gengar has always been OU too

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jul 2016 20:27:56 No.27432084 Report

Quoted By:

>>27430430
Stats, typing and movepool

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jul 2016 20:32:54 No.27432159 Report

Quoted By: >>27432604

>>27430481

Mega Manectric is Jolteon but better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jul 2016 21:05:49 No.27432604 Report

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>>27432159
Mega Manectric. It is slighty faster while having a SpA with the same stats that its Speed, has Intimidate for Volt Switch abuse, and Fire-type moves to not be walled against Ground-types that are part Steel (Steelix)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jul 2016 21:07:51 No.27432634 Report

Quoted By: >>27435060

Starmie is a shitmon who's only good on smogon because they banned Aegislash ans Greninja

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jul 2016 21:08:35 No.27432642 Report

Quoted By: >>27435016 >>27435714

>>27430430
he briefly fell at the start of gen VI

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jul 2016 21:09:31 No.27432654 Report

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>>27430430
decent SpA, fast as shit, rapid spinner where it's relevant, and BoltBeam for great coverage

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jul 2016 21:10:20 No.27432665 Report

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Rapid spin, reliable recovery, balanced stats and great STAB moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jul 2016 21:10:28 No.27432667 Report

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>>27430430
>he

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jul 2016 21:11:34 No.27432680 Report

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>>27430430
yas! she is that bitch!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jul 2016 21:12:24 No.27432691 Report

Quoted By: >>27434440 >>27435176 >>27435658

Starmie fell out of OU at the beginning of Gen 6, he was only back in OU after Greninja and Aegislash got banned.

Gengar remains the only pokemon to have consistently been in OU since the original R/B/Y release.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jul 2016 23:28:48 No.27434424 Report

Quoted By: >>27435097

Starmie not only is perma OU but it's also the only pokemon to remain in OU without having a single buff.
Gengar has been buffed in every gen, while the only thing Starmie got was rapid spin in gen2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jul 2016 23:29:51 No.27434440 Report

Quoted By: >>27435057

>>27432691
Gengar was BL in gen3 for a small period of time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 00:00:04 No.27434905 Report

Quoted By: >>27435046 >>27435076

Tyranitar has been consistently OU since Gen II. That has to count for something, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 00:07:30 No.27435016 Report

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>>27432642
It's not how you start, it's how you finish.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 00:10:38 No.27435046 Report

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>>27434905
So has Skarmory

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 00:12:09 No.27435057 Report

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>>27434440

Only because Gengar wasn't available during half of Gen 3.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 00:12:18 No.27435060 Report

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>>27432634
And what about those 5 previous generations it was OU?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 00:12:55 No.27435070 Report

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>>27430430
Starmie is the apex of Pokemon. The one thing that Gen 1 did right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 00:13:23 No.27435076 Report

Quoted By: >>27435117 >>27436153 >>27436281

>>27434905
Tyranitar is that mon I always think has no business being OU but then it surprises me and fucks shit up in both Ubers and OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 00:15:07 No.27435097 Report

Quoted By: >>27435304

>>27434424
Starmie uses Scald, Cosmic Power, and Natural Cure to its advantage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 00:16:55 No.27435117 Report

Quoted By: >>27436281

>>27435076
I like running Unnerve in doubles. Sandstorm's boost is useles since everyone and their grandma hits you with fighting moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 00:22:32 No.27435176 Report

Quoted By: >>27435213

>>27432691
Dragonite?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 00:23:12 No.27435181 Report

Quoted By: >>27435216

>>27430430
Because he's a STAR!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 00:26:11 No.27435213 Report

Quoted By: >>27435848

>>27435176
UU/BL/BL in gen 1, 2 & 3 respectively. Although it was OU in gen3 for quite some time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 00:26:23 No.27435216 Report

Quoted By: >>27435232

>>27435181
please kill yourself

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 00:26:40 No.27435221 Report

Quoted By: >>27435250 >>27435252

how are claydol/torkoal/swalot?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 00:27:30 No.27435232 Report

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>>27435216
Don't worry, I'm already completely dead inside!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 00:29:41 No.27435250 Report

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>>27435221
Claydol was good in gen 3, decent in gen 4 and has kinda fallen out of use since then.
6 really common weaknesses suck big time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 00:29:51 No.27435252 Report

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>>27435221
Pretty bad but fuck competitive anyway

;_;

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 00:32:38 No.27435280 Report

Quoted By: >>27435322 >>27435336 >>27435570 >>27436554 >>27437006

>Gen III: OU
>Gen IV: OU/Ubers
>Gen V: NU
>Gen VI: PU

Post your bro that has fallen from grace.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 00:34:16 No.27435301 Report

Quoted By:

>>27430430
>amazing movepool
>rapid spin
>fast af
>good special attack
>great design
>staryu and starmie's cries in the anime
>natural cure

am i forgetting anything?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 00:34:35 No.27435304 Report

Quoted By: >>27436855

>>27435097
>cosmic power

misleading.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 00:35:48 No.27435320 Report

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I'm not even a competitive fag, but not gonna lie, it feels kinda good that my favorite Pokémon is still excellent and that power creep didn't get it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 00:35:57 No.27435322 Report

Quoted By: >>27435359 >>27435369 >>27435376 >>27435392 >>27435437

>>27435280
What happened? I'm guessing Scolipede was a better baton passer?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 00:36:53 No.27435336 Report

Quoted By: >>27435410 >>27435650

>>27435280
>Gen 4: OU
>Gen 5: UU
>Gen 6: RU

Why must he suffer?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 00:38:54 No.27435357 Report

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>>27430481
Unlike other Elecs, Jolteon's only grace is its Speed without mega. Outside of that, it's too squishy, can only do one attacking set, and doesn't offer any actual synergy with Gen VI OU threats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 00:39:12 No.27435359 Report

Quoted By: >>27435369

>>27435322
Baton pass clause + it's too weak to do anything on its own unlike scolipede

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 00:40:00 No.27435369 Report

Quoted By: >>27435539

>>27435359
>>27435322

Also 4x weakness to Sneaky Pebbles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 00:40:29 No.27435376 Report

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>>27435322
Talonflame

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 00:42:01 No.27435390 Report

Quoted By: >>27435483 >>27435566

>UBER for SIX STRAIGHT generations

How does he do it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 00:42:08 No.27435392 Report

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>>27435322
Any OU battler with common sense has a way of taking care of Ninjask and its main strategy one way or another. If you want to run speed passing, chances are there's better and more efficient mons for that.

Also unlike other passes, too squishy, vulnerable to passives, and doesn't even hit hard when it has to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 00:43:44 No.27435410 Report

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>>27435336
It's actually not that bad. RU is versatile, Bronz is not a bad mon itself, and some good mons in UU fall since the tier is too congested.

That said, Bronzong does have its share of problems in modern OU because of mega power creep and lack of recovery.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 00:46:16 No.27435437 Report

Quoted By:

>>27435322
>What happened?

Too fragile and Team preview killed Ninjask.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 00:49:32 No.27435483 Report

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>>27435390
Honestly I have no clue since half of the uber tier can take at least 1-2 attacks from it now and m2 only has spongy defenses and terrible mono-psychic typing to boast for itself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 00:54:27 No.27435539 Report

Quoted By: >>27435615 >>27435652

>>27435369
Never stops pokemon from being OU

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 00:56:42 No.27435566 Report

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>>27435390
Basically, it's just too versatile and if you predict it's set wrong you're fucked. Great speed tier and coverage with boosting moves and recovery. If it was OU it would absolutely destroy any offensive, balanced or stall team due to a combination of its coverage, speed, power, access to taunt and set-up moves. In ubers, it's not top tier but it's l great as wild card or team filler

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 00:56:57 No.27435570 Report

Quoted By: >>27435680

>>27435280
BL in gen 4
RU in gen 5
BL again in gen 6

inferior to its better typed more popular sister
worst of the three psychic/fighting types

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 01:00:05 No.27435615 Report

Quoted By:

>>27435539
It's main function is to set up for your team, you're basically given only a few chances for that if rocks are up before it is destroyed by priority. Scolipede can switch in more and has better bulk and offenses. It's not unusable, you're just using an inferior Pokemon if you have a ninjask

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 01:00:38 No.27435622 Report

Quoted By:

>>27430430
Gengar has done that as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 01:02:31 No.27435650 Report

Quoted By: >>27435676

>>27435336

Gen V was hyper offense weather wars, which is a shame since he would have thrived in the rain. But Ferrothorn took all the glory.

Gen VI sealed the deal with the steel nerf.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 01:02:37 No.27435652 Report

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>>27435539
True, but that's only one factor, and a major turnoff if the Pokemon's typing isn't otherwise good. Charizard-Y only gets a pass since Flying/Fire is pretty GOAT defensively combined with its special bulk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 01:02:51 No.27435658 Report

Quoted By: >>27435688

>>27432691
>Analytic
>scald
senpai, it got boosts

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 01:03:04 No.27435664 Report

Quoted By: >>27436470

>Snorlax isn't bad necessarily but it gets a little worse every gen
>Machamp peaked in gen 4 and is now in a downward spiral
>Exeggcutor's 1 gen reign as king yet he still gets worse and worse

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 01:03:35 No.27435673 Report

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I thank John Smogon every day for his decision to rank base forms and Megas separately. If I was forced into using my main man Heracross in Bravest Bird: The Tier, I'd probably weep.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 01:03:49 No.27435676 Report

Quoted By: >>27436067

>>27435650
>ferrothorn

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 01:04:13 No.27435680 Report

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>>27435570
I feel like if Metagross actually did get banned, Gallade would've taken it's place, despite it's awful ability. Its stat distribution is very good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 01:04:31 No.27435688 Report

Quoted By: >>27435729 >>27435775 >>27435900

>>27435658
Analytic seems likd an odd choice for something that fast.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 01:05:26 No.27435702 Report

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Gengar too!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 01:05:55 No.27435714 Report

Quoted By: >>27435732

>>27432642
And at the start of the X + Y meta.
Gengar has always been solid OU, however.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 01:05:55 No.27435715 Report

Quoted By: >>27435826

>>27430430
It's a mystery! Who could be behind this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 01:06:48 No.27435729 Report

Quoted By: >>27435785

>>27435688
Analytic works on switches too, and given Starmie is fast and powerful and already FORCES these switches, it's actually pretty good.

The only reason you'd run Natural Cure on an offensive starmie is if you can't afford to take status continuously.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 01:07:07 No.27435732 Report

Quoted By:

>>27435714
BL at the beginning of gen 3

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 01:08:25 No.27435747 Report

Quoted By: >>27436725

>>27430458
Didn't Weavile also come back as a result of Greninja's ban?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 01:09:46 No.27435758 Report

Quoted By:

Fast Water type with good coverage moves and rapid spin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 01:10:58 No.27435775 Report

Quoted By:

>>27435688
It powers up on switch ins too

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 01:12:24 No.27435785 Report

Quoted By: >>27435852

>>27435729
I had no idea it worked on switches. That's pretty cool actually. Do most people run it on Magnezone as well or is it still a trapper?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 01:15:11 No.27435826 Report

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>>27435715
>two five pointed stars, essentially a ten pointed star
>jewish

you tried.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 01:15:23 No.27435831 Report

Quoted By: >>27435885 >>27435899 >>27435903 >>27436019

Listen. I'm an old fag who only played gen 1 back in the day. Pokemon go brought me to this board. What the fuck are all these acronyms? OR?
Thanks bros.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 01:16:40 No.27435848 Report

Quoted By:

>>27435213
Dragonite is OU since gen 1 dude

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 01:16:53 No.27435852 Report

Quoted By: >>27436054

>>27435785
Analytic Magnezone had tons of hype last gen since it was slow, powerful, and was already a good specs holder. It was apparently so good that the analysis writers got frustrated at having to write yet another set with the same item.

This gen, it's kinda "eh" and people stuck with trapping because steels are still good and Maggy already hits hard.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 01:17:28 No.27435859 Report

Quoted By:

>>27430543

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 01:19:35 No.27435885 Report

Quoted By:

>>27435831

Different competitive tiers. OU stands for Overused, UU is Underused, etc. OP is basically saying Starmie's been top tier for 20 straight years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 01:20:26 No.27435899 Report

Quoted By: >>27436231 >>27436242

>>27435831
Tier rankings. In pokemon they're based on usage except for ubers which is the ban tier.
Ubers
Overused
Borderline
Underused
Borderline2
Rarelyused
Neverused

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 01:20:30 No.27435900 Report

Quoted By:

>>27435688
Analytic punishes switches.

Switch in something at starmie then eat a rain+analytic boosted hydro pump

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 01:20:33 No.27435903 Report

Quoted By: >>27435995

>>27435831
For starters, start with the essential tiers (OU, UU, RU, NU, PU, Ubers, AG).

http://www.smogon.com/dex/xy/formats/

All this is used to categorize how a Pokemon fares competitively in online battles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 01:26:38 No.27435970 Report

Quoted By:

>>27430430
>he

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 01:27:52 No.27435995 Report

Quoted By:

>>27435903
>>27435903
> how a Pokemon fares competitively in online battles.

Only in showdown singles

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 01:29:28 No.27436019 Report

Quoted By:

>>27435831
It's irrelevant garbage, that's all you need to know

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 01:31:52 No.27436054 Report

Quoted By:

>>27435852
Alright. I haven't played competitive in a while but I imagine it can shit on Klefki.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 01:32:43 No.27436067 Report

Quoted By:

>>27435676

>He'll never be good again as long as that big metal slut continues to exist

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 01:36:48 No.27436121 Report

Quoted By: >>27436348 >>27436693

>>27430430
for completely different reasons than gengar
>could always use Surf, Thunderbolt, Psychic, and in Gen 2 got rapid spin
>solid stats throughout

as opposed to gengar that needed gimmicks to do so
>gen 1, stands with starmie
>gen 2, gets elemental punches to stay relevant
>gen 3, gets levitate to stay relevant
>gen 4, physical/special split
>gen 5, sludge wave giveaway
>gen 6, mega gengar

but starmie? he just does his thing like a boss

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 01:38:56 No.27436153 Report

Quoted By:

>>27435076
sandstorm giving all rock types a sp. def boost is pretty great, plus sand veil, sand rush, and sand force. I want more non mineral types getting these abilities though, it'll be great

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 01:44:07 No.27436222 Report

Quoted By: >>27436245

>OU
>OU
>BL
>UU
>BL with mega

the desperate struggle to play with the top tier boys
its all down hill from here

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 01:44:36 No.27436231 Report

Quoted By:

>>27435899
Uber isn't even the ban tier anymore, Mega Rayquaza is so broken that they had to give it it's own ban tier, AG/Anything Goes

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 01:45:31 No.27436242 Report

Quoted By:

>>27435899
You forgot BL3 under rarely and BL4 under Never and PU

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 01:45:36 No.27436245 Report

Quoted By:

>>27436222

As long as priority bureibu bado exists it will never be tippy top tier again

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 01:48:11 No.27436281 Report

Quoted By: >>27436504

>>27435076
>Tyranitar is that mon I always think has no business being OU

High bulk
Wide movepool
Decent offenses
Auto-weather

How is that not OU?

>>27435117
>Sandstorm's boost is useles since everyone and their grandma hits you with fighting moves.

Not running another poke that benefits from sandstorm? Stay bad i guess

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 01:52:05 No.27436348 Report

Quoted By: >>27436492 >>27436673

>>27436121
>sludge wave having anything to do with gengar being OU when it already had sludge bomb

nah man gengar is the only ghost type with good stat distribution

that's really the main reason

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 01:59:53 No.27436424 Report

Quoted By:

>two of my favorite mons are UU
I should really make a team but I suck at team composition and synergy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 02:05:37 No.27436470 Report

Quoted By:

>>27435664
>Machamp peaked in gen 4 and is now in a downward spiral
This. Although there's somewhat of an ironic bittersweetness that it shares a tier with Conkeldurr. At least for now

I remember a short period Machamp reentered OU though. It lasted like 3 weeks after XY release

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 02:08:10 No.27436492 Report

Quoted By:

>>27436348
>gengar is the only ghost type with good stat distribution
Aegislash

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 02:09:47 No.27436504 Report

Quoted By:

>>27436281
Taking STAB SE damage from well over half of the Pokedex is a turnoff for many.
Their loss, Tyranitar is the best.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 02:12:58 No.27436534 Report

Quoted By: >>27436703

I remember this nigga was actually OU

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 02:14:40 No.27436554 Report

Quoted By:

>>27435280

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 02:20:23 No.27436591 Report

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>Give Ninetales an ability that lets it play at OU
>It's still fragile as hell and weak against the other two weather types
>Its speed boost to some Grass types isn't even enough for a ban like Drizzel/Swift Swim
>Nerf it to shit after 1 generation and release a better user of its now-nerfed ability
>Don't give it anything to compensate
Mo tails mo problems.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 02:24:38 No.27436623 Report

Quoted By: >>27436633

I've always loved Nintetales and seeing it go from trash to good to trash again was heartbreaking

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 02:27:08 No.27436633 Report

Quoted By:

>>27436623
>spend a month trying to breed a perfect shiny drought Ninetales
>weather gets nerfed it's now useless

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 02:36:11 No.27436673 Report

Quoted By: >>27436709

>>27436348
>only ghost type with good stat distribution
what about cofagrigus or spiritomb?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 02:39:04 No.27436693 Report

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>>27436121
Gen 3 also gave him Focus Punch and Will o Wisp which let him work as an effective wallbreaker and makeshift wall.
gen4 also added scalf/LO/black sludge which allowed him to be even more fucking unpredictable and would punish people tricking stuff into it
gen5 also buffed disable so sub disable became a really good combo

Gengar gets buffed every gen, Starmie just survives through sheer force of spin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 02:39:53 No.27436703 Report

Quoted By:

>>27436534
In Gen 4?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 02:40:50 No.27436709 Report

Quoted By:

>>27436673
They both have too bad of HP to actually use their defenses. No reliable recovery hurts them both too.

It's stupid GF keeps making these bulky ghosts with great defenses with shit HP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 02:41:53 No.27436725 Report

Quoted By:

>>27435747
Weavile went up to OU because the ORAS move tutors finally allowed it to have Knock Off on the same set as Ice Shard + Icicle Crash

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 02:52:36 No.27436855 Report

Quoted By:

>>27435304
scald/recover/cosmic power/recycle with weakness policy.
try it out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 02:59:03 No.27436945 Report

Quoted By:

>>27430430
Gengar has done it too. Not Mega Gengar, obviously. Just regular old Gengar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 Jul 2016 03:03:05 No.27437006 Report

Quoted By:

>>27435280
All of my bros except Jolteon have just grown stronger. Breloom got Poison Heal, Technician, and a buffed Bullet Seed, Gardevoir got a great mega, and Milotic is stronger than ever thanks to Competitive giving it a nice niche role.

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