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Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 01:14:34 No.27511805 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>27511861 >>27511883 >>27512105 >>27512776 >>27513530

>Gen 7 OU
>opponent has their Azumarill out
>send out your Mega Venusaur to wall it
>the Azumarill knows Rest and has a Psychic Z-Crystal, so it slams you with a Psychic Z-Move

Are you ready for the generation of epic lures

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 01:18:15 No.27511861 Report

Quoted By: >>27511905 >>27511908

>>27511805
>Azumarill
>Psychic

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 01:19:39 No.27511883 Report

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>>27511805
It's based on type you autist

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 01:20:15 No.27511900 Report

Quoted By: >>27512175

>still thinking megas are a thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 01:20:59 No.27511905 Report

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>>27511861
>he doesn't know

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 01:21:09 No.27511908 Report

Quoted By: >>27512055 >>27512251 >>27513608

>>27511861
> There are two conditions for performing Z-Moves: a Pokémon must learn a move of the same type as a Z-Crystal, and it must be holding the corresponding Z-Crystal.

Pokemon don't have to be the same type as their Z-Move; they just have to know a move of the same type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 01:24:03 No.27511951 Report

Quoted By: >>27512161 >>27512164 >>27512501

cant wait to hydropump with my charizard

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 01:24:38 No.27511958 Report

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>Switch Alolan Ninetales into Kakuna
>Kakuna used Z-Iron! Ninetales fainted!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 01:26:30 No.27511998 Report

Quoted By: >>27512115

Holy fuck, it's basically hidden power+respective gem the meta

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 01:29:08 No.27512055 Report

Quoted By: >>27512098

>>27511908
Wait, the Pokémon holds the Crystal?
I thought it would rest in the bracelet, and the Pokémon's item slot would be free.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 01:30:44 No.27512098 Report

Quoted By: >>27512169

>>27512055
Think Mega Stones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 01:31:02 No.27512105 Report

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>>27511805
Hopefully you'll have to have a non-status attack of that type, otherwise you could get some pretty ridiculous shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 01:31:37 No.27512115 Report

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>>27511998
And it shall be glorious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 01:32:37 No.27512138 Report

Quoted By: >>27513130 >>27513203

>pixilate normal Z-Move
>aerilate normal Z-move
>refrigerate normal Z-move

Send help

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 01:33:50 No.27512161 Report

Quoted By: >>27512498

>>27511951
Charizard can't learn any Water-type moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 01:33:53 No.27512164 Report

Quoted By: >>27512199

>>27511951

Charizard doesn't learn a Water move

But Rain Dance Flareon is a thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 01:34:12 No.27512169 Report

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>>27512098
But Mega Stones you had one Key Stone with you and then the Mega Stone with the Pokémon.

if the elemental Crystal is with the Pokémon, then why the bracelet? Do we need two of each type?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 01:34:41 No.27512175 Report

Quoted By: >>27512214 >>27512246

>>27511900
>not seeing the potential of mega stones + z-power pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 01:35:41 No.27512199 Report

Quoted By: >>27512237 >>27512244

>>27512164
Huh, this makes me think, are Z-Moves physical or special, or will it be type-dependent like before the phys/spec split? Or do they use whatever attack stat is higher?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 01:36:13 No.27512214 Report

Quoted By: >>27512280 >>27512308

>>27512175
Doubt you can use both at a time tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 01:37:18 No.27512237 Report

Quoted By: >>27512286 >>27512836

>>27512199

Fixed damage equal to 4 times the user's level.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 01:37:25 No.27512241 Report

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>ferrothorn with bulldoze
>keldeo with icy wind
>kyurem black with ice beam
>serperior with hp rock/ground
>staraptor with close combat
>blissey with flamethrower/psychic
>anything weak to grass with hp fire

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 01:37:27 No.27512244 Report

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>>27512199
What if they're both

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 01:37:32 No.27512246 Report

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>>27512175
Oh I can see it but I don't see it happening
IT STILL COULD BE THOUGH I don't know shit
If it's going to be then it's all cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 01:37:41 No.27512251 Report

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>>27511908

>Greninja staying in Ubers

NO!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 01:38:22 No.27512265 Report

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heh i bet they're called z-moves because they're so boring they put me to sleep

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 01:38:59 No.27512280 Report

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>>27512214
I think he meant in doubles....?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 01:39:15 No.27512286 Report

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>>27512237
Source

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 01:40:04 No.27512304 Report

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>Talonflame can learn Solarbeam
I WANT OFF THIS RIDE

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Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 01:40:13 No.27512308 Report

Quoted By: >>27512435

>>27512214
The strong can only get stronger.
>mega fug with z-power

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 01:45:50 No.27512429 Report

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Serperior with Sunny Day. Now it gets one time Fire coverage and can run HP Rock/Ground. Glorious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 01:46:01 No.27512435 Report

Quoted By: >>27512469 >>27512493 >>27512504 >>27513296

>>27512308
Allright call me newfag but why the fuck do you call him fug?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 01:47:36 No.27512469 Report

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>>27512435
Flying is Flug in german, some german anon posted a screnshot with Rayquaza once and someone editedit to Fug.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 01:48:21 No.27512493 Report

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>>27512435
Flug is the flying iirc, and is what a German anon tried giving away I think. Meme status because Fug and flug were close. I'm not 100% sure

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 01:48:43 No.27512498 Report

Quoted By: >>27512593 >>27512680 >>27512863

>>27512161

>HP Water

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 01:48:52 No.27512501 Report

Quoted By: >>27512593 >>27512680 >>27513381

>>27511951
HIDDEN POWER WATER

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 01:48:58 No.27512504 Report

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>>27512435
The German word for "Flying" is "Flug", which someone edited to "Fug" in reference to Spurdo Sparde's shitpost speech.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 01:52:35 No.27512593 Report

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>>27512498
>>27512501
Oh shit 4x weakness are going to be destroyed with These moves.

I can't wait to fuck Lando whenever

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 01:56:45 No.27512680 Report

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>>27512498
>>27512501
somehow I doubt that will be allowed

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Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 02:00:11 No.27512758 Report

Quoted By: >>27512777 >>27512797 >>27512804 >>27513194

>you can only use the z-move once
>you have to sacrifice your held item for it

so if you choose to give your azumarill a psychic stone and then your opponent switches in a dark type pokemon when you use the z-move...that's basically a waste of a move slot and an item slot.

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Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 02:01:11 No.27512776 Report

Quoted By: >>27513215 >>27513277

>>27511805
CAN
YOU
RECYCLE
A
Z
CRYSTAL
???

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 02:01:17 No.27512777 Report

Quoted By: >>27512790 >>27512831

>>27512758

Why would anyone switch a Dark type into Azumarill though?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 02:02:09 No.27512790 Report

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>>27512777
That is a good question anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 02:02:22 No.27512797 Report

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>>27512758
>predict switch
>click play rough

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Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 02:02:57 No.27512804 Report

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>>27512758
>switching a dark type pokemon into azumarill

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 02:03:54 No.27512831 Report

Quoted By:

>>27512777
it's called prediction yo

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 02:04:02 No.27512836 Report

Quoted By:

>>27512237
>fixed damage

What's the point of them being a certain type then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 02:04:19 No.27512849 Report

Quoted By: >>27512886 >>27512956

These are just one time use moves, right?

It sounds like it'll be just another Natural Gift.

If the Pokemon needs to know a certain type move to use the certain Z-move, it might be even worse than Natural Gift.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 02:05:12 No.27512863 Report

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>>27512498
Hidden Power probably only counts as a Normal-type move, since that's what it's programmed as.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 02:06:17 No.27512882 Report

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I'm pretty sure they're gonna restrict it to naturally learned moves only, otherwise the meta just got completely assfucked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 02:06:27 No.27512886 Report

Quoted By: >>27512928

>>27512849
i'm assuming status moves aren't going to count? some moves get very very wide distribution.

>toxic
>curse
>rest
>protect

that is 4 out of the 18 types right there....

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 02:08:38 No.27512928 Report

Quoted By: >>27512975

>>27512886
Isn't curse a ??? type move or did they change that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 02:10:24 No.27512956 Report

Quoted By: >>27513038

>>27512849
No it won't, because:
a) All pokemon don't learn natural gift
b) These are almost guaranteed to be powerhouse moves
c) They can be paired with a good move and take up zero spots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 02:10:48 No.27512960 Report

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>can multiple pokemon on the same team use z-moves in a battle?
>can only one type of z-move be used by a trainer?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 02:11:26 No.27512975 Report

Quoted By:

>>27512928
It's ghost type

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 02:14:43 No.27513038 Report

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>>27512956
>All pokemon don't learn natural gift
Well yes, that's true.
Although if they do decide to put out DP remakes, it is very likely we'll get a Natural Gift tutor.
>All Pokémon who can learn TMs can learn Natural Gift.
It's supposed to be like Hidden Power as far as accessibility goes, but it's a big if, anyways.

I just think it would be a lot better if we didn't need to carry a type matching move to use it.

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Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 02:19:32 No.27513130 Report

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>>27512138

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 02:23:20 No.27513194 Report

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>>27512758
Or you could take the gamble and have a chance of OHKOing whatever switches in that doesn't resist the type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 02:23:56 No.27513203 Report

Quoted By: >>27513721

>>27512138
>Sylveon now OHKOs everything in the game
Thank god Megas can't use Z Moves at least.

That reminds me though, will Z Moves have two versions for physical and special? Because a whole bunch of Pokemon suddenly get locked out from viability unless that happens OR Z Moves are based on a different damage calculator.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 02:24:28 No.27513215 Report

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>>27512776
Probably, I could see Porygon becoming a pretty good Z-Attack candidate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 02:25:58 No.27513238 Report

Quoted By: >>27513334

>Swampert learns Sludge Wave, Sludge, and Toxic
Where are your counters now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 02:28:03 No.27513277 Report

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>>27512776
are they consumed? I assumed they'd work like mega stones

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 02:28:59 No.27513296 Report

Quoted By: >>27513440

>>27512435
Fuck everyone who's spoon feeding this GOfaggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 02:31:17 No.27513334 Report

Quoted By:

>>27513238
>Ferrothorn

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 02:34:44 No.27513381 Report

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>>27512501
The move's typing is normal though.

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Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 02:37:35 No.27513440 Report

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>>27513296
Hey, you dropped this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 02:42:50 No.27513530 Report

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>>27511805
you still have to give up an item slot for z moves and there is already natural gift azu, so i don't think it would be a better option than that since you can have that and another mon with a z move if you're into luring threats

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 02:46:05 No.27513608 Report

Quoted By:

>>27511908
>Z-Move M-Fug
My body is ready.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 02:50:02 No.27513674 Report

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>delphox is finally useful because it can Z-move magician and steal the opponent's Z-crystal

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 02:52:30 No.27513721 Report

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>>27513203
I would imagine to solve half the problems in this thread, Z-moves are based off the typing of the attack that the Z-move is based off. Solarbeam for a Grass Z-move makes a special Bloom Doom. Vine Whip would make a physical Bloom Doom.

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