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What's its base hp stat?

Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 05:17:32 No.27560010 View View Reply Original Report

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Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 05:20:29 No.27560039 Report

Quoted By: >>27560061 >>27560101

better question, is there any situation under which rock isnt a detriment?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 05:22:29 No.27560061 Report

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>>27560039
Offensively at least.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 05:25:03 No.27560095 Report

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minimum 24, maximum 72? i think i got that right

not enough info, and not worth knowing

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 05:25:05 No.27560097 Report

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Assuming 0 IVs/EVs, base 71

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Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 05:25:13 No.27560099 Report

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Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 05:25:18 No.27560101 Report

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>>27560039
When fighting a pokemon that doesn't know Water, Grass, Steel, Fighting or Ground type moves.

Flying takes away 3 of those weaknesses, it's still bad but probably the bes pairing for rock

Max !DimbyEO7nQ

Max !DimbyEO7nQ Fri 05 Aug 2016 05:26:53 No.27560117 Report

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>>27560010
22-71

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 05:29:12 No.27560147 Report

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>>27560117
>>27560097
>>27560095
Thanks guys!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 05:30:39 No.27560168 Report

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>>27560097
>>27560117
This is definitely the first stage in an evolution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 05:32:08 No.27560188 Report

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>>27560168
or maybe it's a new Carbink

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Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 05:36:10 No.27560234 Report

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Gee, I dunno anon, let me ask my dad John Gamefreak

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 05:43:15 No.27560317 Report

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>>27560010

It probably has low HP, but Carbink-tier defenses, as part of its gimmick with Shields Down.

Think Aegislash. Good defenses in regular form, but once Shields Down activates, its offenses increase dramatically at the cost of its defenses.

It also has complete immunity to status conditions before Shields Down activates.

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Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 05:47:37 No.27560356 Report

Quoted By: >>27560688 >>27561806

http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/en-us/pokemon/minior/

>Minior has a hard and heavy outer shell with a core inside it. The Meteor Pokémon seems to be made in such a way that if its shell breaks, it becomes lighter and can deal out quick attacks.

>With the Shields Down Ability, it will have excellent defensive capabilities as long as its shell is intact. It will also be protected from status conditions. But when its HP drops below half, its shell will break, and it will change to a form better suited to attacking.

High defenses while the shell is intact, high offenses and speed once the shell is broken

Think Shell Smash, but as an ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 05:47:39 No.27560358 Report

Quoted By: >>27560734 >>27561011 >>27561361 >>27562358 >>27562624

>>27560168

Just like all the other pokemon that have a gimmick based around altering their appearance.

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Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 06:20:44 No.27560688 Report

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>>27560356
>>It will also be protected from status conditions
Now that's interesting. It can switch in on Prankster users and set up easy. It's also protected from Burn while the shield is up, so assuming its a physical attacker, it'll be ruthless once the shields go down.

Of course, knowing GF, it's not going to learn any self buffing moves and have to rely entirely on Baton Passing.

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Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 06:26:01 No.27560734 Report

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>>27560358
Zorua evolved, at least.

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Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 06:27:15 No.27560741 Report

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what if it gets shell smash

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 06:44:50 No.27560936 Report

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>>27560688
>assuming its a physical attacker

Trailer showed it using Power Gem, it probably has good Attack and Special Attack once the shields are down

A Rock-type with high special attack (what Gigalith should have been) and Power Gem would be nice

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 06:51:30 No.27561011 Report

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>>27560358
Burmy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 07:27:55 No.27561361 Report

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>>27560358
Deerling

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 07:32:43 No.27561398 Report

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>>27560168
>Solrock's kid brother

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 07:33:13 No.27561401 Report

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>>27560117
I doubt they EV'd these or anything before taking pics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 07:47:15 No.27561514 Report

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>>27560101
Grass

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 08:22:33 No.27561806 Report

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>>27560356
So it is gonna suck ass then. No "dual role" pokemon has ever been good. A pokemon is suited for one role, to have that role change mid battle is always going to be a hindrance, especially since you only get 4 moves.

Like it would have to be full aegislash ridiculous with 150 atk/spatk/def/spdef/ and also have some sort of broken unique move to even be worth considering.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 08:26:38 No.27561838 Report

Quoted By: >>27561843 >>27563842

I really like the shield design yet fucking hate the star design.

Nips were playing too much Mario Galaxy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 08:27:18 No.27561843 Report

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>>27561838
>Nips were playing too much Mario Galaxy.
>implying nips still play console games

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 08:33:33 No.27561902 Report

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>>27561806
fuck off smogonfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 08:37:21 No.27561940 Report

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>>27561902
>your team is crafted to work together with perfect synergy
>Oops, your defensive wall just became a sweeper
It doesn't take a smogonfag to see why this would never work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 09:03:21 No.27562114 Report

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>>27561940
>Oops, your defensive wall just became a sweeper

So you use your initially high defense to set up in safety, then transform and sweep without losing tempo?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 09:09:17 No.27562141 Report

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What's the possibility that it would work with a weakness policy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 09:35:10 No.27562358 Report

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>>27560358
flabebe

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 09:44:07 No.27562419 Report

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>>27560688
>Of course, knowing GF, it's not going to learn any self buffing moves and have to rely entirely on Baton Passing.

It has to learn Shell Smash. It just has to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 09:58:40 No.27562530 Report

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>>27561398
Prevo to weird, Alolan Solrock and Lunatone?

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Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 10:04:11 No.27562574 Report

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>>27561806
hello

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 10:08:49 No.27562599 Report

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>>27562358
>>27561361
>>27561011
>implying an aesthetic change that doesn't actually impact anything practically is the same as a change that activates DURING battle and changes the stats of the pokemon on a dime

you people are idiots. zorua is the only acceptable comparison. burmys is just for evolution, it doesn't activate in the batle

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 10:11:48 No.27562624 Report

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>>27560358
Gastrodon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 12:41:38 No.27563842 Report

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>>27561838
>hating the star design
>not liking both forms

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 12:49:08 No.27563907 Report

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>>27560936
I always want Gigalith to be a special attack. After all, its a Rock-type that can learn Solar Beam and Flash Canon. Even Roggenrola looks like a blast canon.

But no, SpA is its second lowest stat. Only loosing to it's speed.

Maybe a Alolan form can change that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 12:50:55 No.27563930 Report

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>>27560095
I'm actually kind of expecting this to be in OU one day.
That or its evolution.
I just get the feeling it might be the Klefki this gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 12:51:52 No.27563938 Report

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>>27562574
it's me

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 12:57:38 No.27563975 Report

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>>27560101
It takes away three but adds another three.
It picks up electric, ice, and rock as weaknesses.
So it's kind of a wash.
Unless they change the type chart.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 13:03:37 No.27564021 Report

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>>27562419
White herb shell smash set?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 13:06:30 No.27564037 Report

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>>27562599
>Cherrim
Darmanitan
Aegislash
You know, I expected to contradict you, but those are all the final evolutions.
And the base stages don't get different forms.
So I should add Meloetta and Castform to the list.

I guess we aren't getting a Majeor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 13:08:03 No.27564047 Report

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>>27561806
You're point stands if you aren't including zygard

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 13:13:09 No.27564090 Report

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>>27561514
This. The best combination for rock is the worst defensive typing. How quaint.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 13:16:56 No.27564125 Report

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>>27560010
>we know nothing of it's EVs and IVs
>expect us to know

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 13:17:32 No.27564131 Report

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>>27564125
IVs are always zero for trailer pokemon I think

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 13:21:12 No.27564189 Report

Quoted By: >>27564226 >>27564739

>>27561514
>>27564090
Bug gets one less weakness actually.
Only 3.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 13:24:39 No.27564226 Report

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>>27564189
I'd forgotten about that. We need more grass/rock and bug/rock pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 13:40:56 No.27564420 Report

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>>27561806
It's just a built in Salac/Liechi, plus status protection.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 14:02:54 No.27564739 Report

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>>27564189
Tradeoff is grass/rock is a wee tad better offensively, given its only resisted by steel, where bug/rock is resisted by fighting and steel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2016 14:59:26 No.27565540 Report

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>>27564090
And Cradily happens to be an annoying stallmon.

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