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How do we fix flareon /vp/?

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 11:09:08 No.27602592 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>27602851 >>27602877 >>27603062 >>27603122 >>27603217 >>27603321 >>27604626

We've previously ""fixed"" samurott, lapras, rampardos, banette and carnivine.

How do you think you could improve this pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 11:13:16 No.27602620 Report

Quoted By: >>27603084

it would be a lot better if it could learn solar beam

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 11:20:53 No.27602686 Report

Quoted By: >>27602758

Its stat distribution doesn't suit a pure fire type, it's forever fucked

It would need an unrealistic overhaul of moves and a type change to Fire/Fairy or something to be viable over Blaziken/Heatran/Arcanine etc

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 11:24:27 No.27602712 Report

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Conflagrate
Pokemon's normal attacks become the FIRE type. (30% boost to those attacks).

Versions of this should have been inserted as every Eevee evolutions alternate to Adaptability (which currently an empty slot) including Sylveon (who instead got Pixillate as a DW ability, It is literally making their moves follow the same evolutionary path that they do, and even plays on what it replaced ( as Adaptability makes Eevee's normal type attacks stronger).
Most of the others would benefit because Hyper Voice, but Flareon now has STAB priority and the attack power to use it not to mention Double Edge/Return being stronger than Flare Blitz. It'd be a start.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 11:28:04 No.27602740 Report

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God, it's my favorite Eeveevolution but the simple fact that it is an Eeveevolution kind of breaks its chance to actually be useful someday. Its fate is to never have an actual good movepool.

Maybe an OP abilitie could save it, but that works with everything else anyway. Something in the lines of Stake Out or Fluffy would be interesting to give it some kind of niche instead of just making it overpowered.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 11:30:26 No.27602758 Report

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>>27602686
I really doubt GF would ever make and eeveelution with more than one type under any conditions, even a mega

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 11:39:11 No.27602817 Report

Quoted By: >>27602912

Do you guys think a mega with increased defense and speed could make Flareon good on its own?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 11:43:19 No.27602851 Report

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>>27602592
Give it Extremespeed, Fake Out, and a 60 BP priority Fire type attack.

There, it's fixed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 11:47:10 No.27602877 Report

Quoted By: >>27602906 >>27603059

>>27602592
Give it fluffy. Not as OP as Fur Coat but still good. Neutral damage by Fire type attacks and resistance to contact moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 11:50:03 No.27602906 Report

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>>27602877
Not bad but I think it needs a complete stat-redistribution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 11:50:52 No.27602912 Report

Quoted By: >>27602994

>>27602817
It probably still wouldn't be good without a highly useful ability. Mega Houndoom got those things, and it has more moves and a second STAB to work with.

Another thing Flareon was missing was something to boost its stats. (Ironic given its called 'Booster' in Japan). As it is, it couldn't set up anyway, but its weird how Vaporeon got Acid Armor, Jolteon agility and it got Leer... At Level 42... When Eevee already had Tail Whip...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 11:59:00 No.27602994 Report

Quoted By: >>27603072

>>27602912
I thought flareon had access to swords dance for some reason. That's just... sad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 12:06:33 No.27603059 Report

Quoted By: >>27603100 >>27603205

>>27602877
>Pokemon is immune to the fire type.
>Pokemon takes double damage from the fire type.

Now there's some mind games on the predicted switch. Its too bad the physical attacks that literally bury it are non-contact moves Earthquake and Stone Edge.
Now where's the ability that nerfs those?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 12:06:59 No.27603062 Report

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>>27602592
give it arcanines move pool

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 12:09:22 No.27603072 Report

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>>27602994
Nope, Leafeon eventually got it. Eevee learns Baton Pass and Flareon can literally pass nothing unless you gave it Work Up by TM in Gen 5. This guy's a meme for a reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 12:10:47 No.27603084 Report

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>>27602620
It really wouldn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 12:13:40 No.27603100 Report

Quoted By: >>27603185

>>27603059
It would take neutral damage if it had Fluffy.
How about:
HP: 110
ATK: 130
DEF: 65
SPA: 60
SPD: 95
SPD: 110
?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 12:15:43 No.27603122 Report

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>>27602592
>130 Atk
>its strongest STAB is a recoil move
>having a terrible HP and being slow means that at the end of the turn it will have less than 50% of its HP.
>HA could have been Rock Head to negate recoil, but instead is Guts IN A MOTHERFUCKINH FIRE-TYPE
>on Gen I its Special stat was 110, since Gen II its Special stat was moved to SpD, and its SpA is a shitty 95
This Pokemon has way too many problems that wouldn't be fixed that easy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 12:23:47 No.27603185 Report

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>>27603100
Correction:
HP: 95
ATK: 130
DEF: 65
SPA: 60
SPD: 65
SPD: 110

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 12:26:31 No.27603205 Report

Quoted By: >>27603223

>>27603059
Double the resist it should have is neutral.

There are two 110s in there- there should only be one. If its supposed to be Speed, that's the better option It would at least be able to get its piece in most of the time, though it would be by no means great. If its supposed to be HP, it's basically a worse Darminatan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 12:27:31 No.27603217 Report

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>>27602592
Give him a baseball hat

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 12:28:14 No.27603223 Report

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>>27603205
Didn't see your correction.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 12:38:33 No.27603321 Report

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>>27602592
Cut its attack by half and give it to defence and special defence and give it a bigger movepool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2016 14:34:40 No.27604626 Report

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>>27602592
Give it gale wings

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