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Are gen 5 starters the most universally disliked?

Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 14:06:19 No.27625384 View View Reply Original Report

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Because I kinda like them, more than gen 1 and 2 at least.
Why does everyone shit on them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 14:07:32 No.27625397 Report

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They're boring designs and they're really bad ingame.

I agree that they're better than gen2 but no way they're better than gen 1.
inb4 genwunner

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Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 14:09:05 No.27625411 Report

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>Fire/Fighting

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Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 14:09:38 No.27625419 Report

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>>27625397
How so? Fire ganon, smug grass snek, and samurai sea lion are all pretty inventive in my books.

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Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 14:10:45 No.27625432 Report

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>>27625384
Gen 2 starters are the worst, even worse than Gen 5.

Only failed normalfags like incredibly bland shit like Typhlosion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 14:10:51 No.27625434 Report

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>>27625384
I think they get more shit than they deserve, especially Samurott, but they're still the worst imo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 14:10:53 No.27625435 Report

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I like Serperior's design but it's ass without its HA. The other two just look bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 14:11:25 No.27625444 Report

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They're certainly better than the leaks of the 7th gen final evosevos

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 14:15:14 No.27625491 Report

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I think design wise, they were okay at best. In game, they were awful to use. As much as I tried, I couldn't use serperior.

Serperior>Emboar>Samurott

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Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 14:15:21 No.27625497 Report

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>>27625384
They are ugly as fuck and useless.
Gen 5 is the only gen I ditched the starter. Gen 1 is the only one I like all the stages of all starters.

Not even genwunner, gen 5 is actually my favorite despite the shit starters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 14:16:49 No.27625509 Report

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>>27625384
>boring monotype for two of them
>the other is the third Fire/Fighting in a row
>shit/bland designs all around
>don't feel as powerful compared to previous starters
>way better alternative options for those types in their debut game

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 14:17:49 No.27625520 Report

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>>27625384
Gen 5 has my favourite grass starter. The rest are kind of meh. Although I do like Oshawott's and Dewott's design.

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Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 14:18:01 No.27625522 Report

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>>27625444
Never seen trips so wrong

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Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 14:18:05 No.27625524 Report

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Only gen where I don't like at least one starter

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Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 14:18:54 No.27625529 Report

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Haters be damned serpy is a qt...horrible movepool and needing contrary aside.

No comment on the other 2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 14:20:18 No.27625548 Report

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>>27625419
It doesn't matter if the concept is great if the execution is piss poor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 14:22:43 No.27625570 Report

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>>27625384
The concepts and theme were okay, but the execution was poor. Switch the leggedness of Samurott and Emboar so that the samurai is on 2 legs and the boar is on 4 and they work out a lot better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 14:23:12 No.27625572 Report

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>>27625384
Chesnaught is hated more than any of the gen 5 starters though.

It's not even an insult, it's a fact. The famitsu poll is objective confirmation that Chesnaught is the most hated starter in the world.

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Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 14:29:33 No.27625654 Report

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I do like the Gen 5 starters, they're just bad to use in game. Samurott and Emboar are far more usable than Serperior in game though. I tired using one in my B2 run, and I ended up boxing the damn thing because it couldn't pull its weight on the team. Even my Liepard in my Black version managed to hold its own better.

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Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 14:32:50 No.27625694 Report

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>>27625397
Why do people keep saying they're bad in game? I've used all 3 and the only questionable one is Serperior, but even he was pretty good if you used him right. Emboar and Samurott are just as strong as your standard starter. Why do people think this?

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Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 14:33:29 No.27625699 Report

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>>27625694
>he

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Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 14:35:04 No.27625717 Report

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>>27625570
>Have Samurott be bipedal and Emboar be quadruped.
Holy shit this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 14:36:07 No.27625725 Report

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>>27625384
Its really the first generation where there are better alternatives offered for all three starters. The starters didnt have any gimmicks or interesting traits to keep

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Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 14:37:56 No.27625741 Report

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>>27625419
Ganon, that's fucking perfect why didn't I think of it. Thanks

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Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 14:39:26 No.27625754 Report

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I mean, Serperior was really good with Coil and Leaf Blade in Gen V - I never had any issues using it reliably in boss fights. Definitely prefer the Gen 3 starters though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 14:40:34 No.27625770 Report

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- Disappointing final evos
- Boring typings (F I R E / F I G H T I N G, okay, BUT also the other two starters are just mono because why? Because fuck you. Fuck you.)
- Shit stats. Slow and bulky fire/fighting even though it's a terrible defensive typing. Slow and bulky water even though it's just inferior to other mons. Serperior is pure grass but nothing to connect it.
- They have no moves. Serperior has no limbs and they compensate for this by...doing nothing. They do nothing. Serperior gets NO moves to make up for the fact his concept locks him out of 80% of the moves it would otherwise get if it wasn't a snake and wasn't pure Grass.

They are absolutely awful, which is weird since the rest of the dex is probably the best one of all the games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 14:41:13 No.27625775 Report

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>>27625694

The thing is, back in the day starters had great stats compared to most stuff you could get before E4.
In gen 5 they introduced a fuckton of easily attainable pokemon with 130+ offensive stats making the starters quickly outclassed.
Look at Chandelure, Darmanitan, Haxorus, Excadrill, etc. all offensive powerhouses that can easily sweep thorough the game. Even before the first gym you could catch a Sawk making your starter immediately useless.

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Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 14:42:39 No.27625794 Report

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>>27625397
fuck you genwunner

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 14:47:18 No.27625863 Report

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>>27625384
They are a case of "don't judge by the cover" in my experience, which is why I wanted to try them all during many playthroughs in gen 5.
>Emboar
A fucking bro, somehow tanked Surfs from Ghetsis' Hydreigon and beat it, back then I didn't even know I had to fight that asshole.
>Samurott
I really liked its moveset and the design and theme grew on me, never had any problems in battle with it.
>Serperior
Top noth design, shit everything else. I really didn't want to box it, Serperior looks great but there was an Axew right here. Oh well, at least it probably gets love from furfags and vorefags.

Overall I like them all, not my fav set.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Aug 2016 14:49:15 No.27625884 Report

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Serperior looked pretty bland and not very starter-like.
Emboar was the worst starter idea ever; reused the same typing for the third time in a row, while being infinitely inferior to the other two.
Samurott would've been cool, but Dewott looked way better and people like me wanted something more like it.

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