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Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 15:27:17 No.27709643 View View Reply Original Report

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>Makes Alola Raichu and Marowak
>Leaves Cubone and Pikachu the same
>Not making a Alola version of your beloved mascot

Damn it Gamefreak, the one pokemon i was expecting to get a Alola form doesn't. Why would you not do that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 15:28:06 No.27709663 Report

Quoted By: >>27709695 >>27709711 >>27709715 >>27710280 >>27712495

This skip the full evolution aniamtion which is suspicious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 15:29:24 No.27709690 Report

Quoted By: >>27709801 >>27710679 >>27711634

>>27709643
It's actually the smart move to leave Pikachu as is. Giving the mascot an Alola form would mean that you can't get the regular form normally. Having Raichu be the one to get a new form is the best way to get Pikachu into the whole subspecies thing without actually touching the mascot.

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Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 15:29:31 No.27709695 Report

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>>27709663
No...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 15:30:15 No.27709711 Report

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>>27709663
not really why would you waste the time? the evolution cutscene has always been needlessly long in every game

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 15:30:19 No.27709715 Report

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>>27709663
No, it's just too long.

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Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 15:30:26 No.27709720 Report

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>>27709643
Pikachu got its Alola form back in Gen 1.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 15:30:39 No.27709725 Report

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>>27709643
this is how its been since exeggutor

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 15:34:44 No.27709801 Report

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>>27709690
>you can't get the regular form normally
Oh right, completely forgot about that. Then it would be stupid to give it Alola form. Guess they know what they're doing then.

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Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 15:57:21 No.27710280 Report

Quoted By: >>27716747 >>27717593

You're retarded if you thought they were gonna alter Pikachu in any way shape or form.
You don't change the design of the mascot like that.

>>27709663
It isn't. The evolution animation is long and this is a trialer. There's no need to show the whole thing.

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Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 16:01:27 No.27710354 Report

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>>27709643
You're treading on thin ice OP

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 16:07:25 No.27710499 Report

Quoted By: >>27710679 >>27710695

>>27709643
imo, there's a chance we'll still get an alolan pikachu (skipped evolution screen was a lil fishy), and it'll just be surfing pikachu. not too much of a cosmetic change to deface their precious mascot, plus it includes the double-whammy of pandering to gen 1's pokemon yellow. this would be somewhat of a significant reveal so perhaps they're saving it. i will admit it's a bit disconcerting that they would have revealed alolan raichu solo before pikachu... but we'll see. i'm sort of 60% sure. just doesn't make much sense that a pikachu wouldn't need to 'adapt' to alola, whereas the second it evolves, raichu has to look entirely different.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 16:11:34 No.27710591 Report

Quoted By: >>27710679

>>27709643
Why the fuck would they change the design of their mascot Pokemon? That's like Disney changing their mascot to Oswald the Rabbit for 4 years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 16:13:23 No.27710623 Report

Quoted By: >>27710864

>ground type
>becomes ghost/fire
>doesn't keep a single original type

Ok

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Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 16:16:34 No.27710679 Report

Quoted By: >>27712333

>>27710499
OP here. >>27709690 gives a good explanation why. They won't make normal Pikachu unobtainable through catching, i doubt they'll force kids to transfer it from a previous game.

>>27710591
I was thinking more from the anime perspective than the game one. Anime would allow both forms on screen since Ash will be going there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 16:17:20 No.27710695 Report

Quoted By: >>27710799

>>27710499
>imo, there's a chance we'll still get an alolan pikachu (skipped evolution screen was a lil fishy)
>i will admit it's a bit disconcerting that they would have revealed alolan raichu solo before pikachu... but we'll see. i'm sort of 60% sure
I doubt it. They've always skipped full evolution screens in previous trailers. Also vulpix/ninetales and sandshrew/sandslash evolution trailers only featured alola forms. Both cubone and pikachu are probably stuck with their known forms.

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Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 16:22:51 No.27710799 Report

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>>27710695
fair point, it does seem a bit convoluted to sort of falsely imply there isn't alolan pre-evos. guess i'm just trying to comfort my inflamed autism that they've just skipped redesigning pika and cubone. such a weird curveball for regular pikachu to evolve into a fucking telekinetic silver surfer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 16:26:43 No.27710864 Report

Quoted By: >>27711688 >>27711694

>>27710623
Eevee.
Azurill before Gen VI

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 17:06:50 No.27711634 Report

Quoted By: >>27711665 >>27711670

>>27709690
>Giving the mascot an Alola form would mean that you can't get the regular form normally.

why would you not be able to catch the regular form?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 17:08:43 No.27711665 Report

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>>27711634
Because the game takes place in Alola..?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 17:09:11 No.27711670 Report

Quoted By: >>27711701

>>27711634
>pokemon adapts to new form
>can be found in old form
Why would there be non-adapted Pikachu in the environment?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 17:10:30 No.27711688 Report

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>>27710864
Azurill didn't even kept its gender

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 17:11:05 No.27711694 Report

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>>27710864
It's still quite odd since
>it's 2 completely different types at once
>changing type completely was Eevee's gimmick and Azurill is just a weird anomaly that possibly had some of its code copypasted from Igglybuff or Cleffa (see: bizarre gender ratio)

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Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 17:11:34 No.27711701 Report

Quoted By: >>27712104 >>27712107

>>27711670
Drop one in via the story. Not all have to be wild encounters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 17:12:43 No.27711726 Report

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They would never do something that drastic to the mascot

Cubone probably should have be retyped to Fire and holds his bone like a torch

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 17:15:56 No.27711786 Report

Quoted By: >>27712194

Pikachu is the one Pokemon that will never get a proper alternate form and you don't know shit if you don't know why.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 17:22:39 No.27711898 Report

Quoted By: >>27711929 >>27711994 >>27712325 >>27715945

I'm going with the theory that Alolan Marowak is essentially a "ghost marowak" like in Lavender Town in RBY and that Cubone stays the same.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 17:23:49 No.27711929 Report

Quoted By: >>27711986

>>27711898
Well you're wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 17:26:34 No.27711986 Report

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>>27711929
oh okay, got pics of alolan cubone?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 17:27:10 No.27711994 Report

Quoted By: >>27712154

>>27711898
I like that theory, but the truth is that Alolan Marowak gets its ghost type without dying.

Unless they plan to retcon that death in a upcoming re-remake of gen 1. Which wouldn't surprise me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 17:30:45 No.27712079 Report

Quoted By: >>27716400 >>27717719

>A ground-type evolves into a fire/ghost type
Why the fuck is this allowed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 17:31:50 No.27712104 Report

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>>27711701
Yes, this could happen.

But the op was talking about catching one, hence, why I wasn't fond of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 17:31:58 No.27712107 Report

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>>27711701
that would be pretty cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 17:33:22 No.27712140 Report

Quoted By: >>27712167

>>27709643
>how does marketing work
>why didn't they fuck with brand recognition for the sake of a single games gimmick
Come on dumbass

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 17:34:09 No.27712154 Report

Quoted By: >>27716856

>>27711994

Well no, it doesn't die in the traditional sense, but really is there a single ghost pokemon that isn't either something dead (or at least a spirit) or something being animated by a spirit? It makes plenty of sense that an Alolan Marowak would just be a Marowak's ghost.

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Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 17:34:29 No.27712167 Report

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>>27712140
Well, the original Pikachu wouldn't cease to exist.

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Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 17:35:43 No.27712194 Report

Quoted By: >>27712340

>>27711786
???

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 17:37:44 No.27712222 Report

Quoted By: >>27712343

I wonder if we'll get a situation where since Alolan pokemon have different movesets than non-Alolan ones, we'll end up getting ways to breed non-alolan moves onto alolan pokemon (i.e. Flamethrower from non-Alolan Vulpix to Alolan Vulpix, or Dragon Pulse from Alolan Exeggutor to non-Alolan Exeggcute

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Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 17:39:44 No.27712262 Report

Quoted By: >>27712315 >>27712341 >>27715952

>>27709643
>Marowak
>Ghost/Fire
Ok so maybe this is just a play on the fire rod or even the lore that cubone may be a Charmander with a Charizard skull. I like the typing and design, cool.
>Lightning Rod
LOL

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 17:41:17 No.27712292 Report

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>>27709643
I believe that's the point. Its an evolutionary process and the change is in the DNA before they evolution and that DNA alters the evolution.
With vulpix/sandshrew its different as they live in a completely different habitat and the change is much deeper. Its not really a stretch to think that alolan raichu and alolan marowak give birth to a normal pikachu and cubone, but I certainly can't see alolan Ninetales giving birth to a typical fire vulpix.

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Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 17:41:30 No.27712298 Report

Quoted By: >>27712470 >>27712523

>>27709643
>Alola Raichu Marowak
>implying that showing regular Cubone and Pikachu isn't a red herring for a later showcase

I bet you also think there isn't an Alola Persian, too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 17:42:32 No.27712315 Report

Quoted By: >>27712385 >>27712443

>>27712262
Just wait until he grabs his bone and spins it in the air to catch electricity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 17:42:56 No.27712325 Report

Quoted By: >>27712359

>>27711898
Didn't the dex entry mention that they channel the power of the spirits through their torch spinning?

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Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 17:43:29 No.27712333 Report

Quoted By: >>27715846

>>27710679
Hey, did you ever stop to consider Nintendo/Game Freak's statement about making a big change to pikachu that they didn't think would be well received by the audience?

Maybe Alola-Pikachu is that "big change."

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 17:43:55 No.27712340 Report

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>>27712194
a "proper" alternate form.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 17:43:57 No.27712341 Report

Quoted By: >>27712413

>>27712262
Lightning Rod still nullifies electric even if not a ground type. if anything it's better since Marowak gets a sp.atk boost from it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 17:44:17 No.27712343 Report

Quoted By: >>27712408

>>27712222
I've wondered this, will Ninetales get access to its fire moves still due to egg moves? Will Alolan pokemon get different egg movelists?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 17:44:59 No.27712359 Report

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>>27712325
that could be, didn't read any dex entries. Still, Alolan Marowaks being "dead" would be a neat bit of lore for the gen-1 crowd

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 17:45:51 No.27712385 Report

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>>27712315
that's fucking badass

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 17:46:58 No.27712408 Report

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>>27712343

well it's obvious that Alolan pokemon have different movesets since Vulpix/Ninetales get ice moves, so that'd presumably go for egg moves as well. I'd just like to see it possible to have different moves for the others, similar to how only Light Ball Pikachu breeding can result in Volt Tackle

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 17:47:17 No.27712413 Report

Quoted By: >>27712437 >>27712791

>>27712341
I don't care what the effect of the ability is if the actual chance of activation is so retardedly low. Who is going to hit Marowak with an electric move? I hate having to switch in a Pokemon for a gimmick and having to use a water type (for example) as lightning rod bait. It's the same as Sceptile: Who uses thunderbolt on it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 17:48:21 No.27712437 Report

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>>27712413
You won't, which means there's a low chance of it ever getting paralyzed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 17:48:30 No.27712443 Report

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>>27712315
pretty much every Lightningrod pokemon has had some jutting-out appendage so It'd make sense. Rhydon has the horn, Sceptile has the tail, and Marowak has the bone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 17:49:43 No.27712470 Report

Quoted By: >>27715817

>>27712298
Of course we will get an Alolan Persian. Do you think Dark Meowth will evolve into Normal Persian? If a pre-evo gets a new form, you can basically count on it being a set. A different case would be Exeggutor, where I don't think we will get an Alolan Exeggcute.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 17:51:07 No.27712495 Report

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>>27709663
What need would there be to show that long as animation? It's like 7 seconds long. Learn to advertise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 17:52:23 No.27712523 Report

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>>27712298
Just like alolan eggsacute
OH WAIT

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 18:03:03 No.27712791 Report

Quoted By: >>27714226

>>27712413

It also draws it from attacks on a partner so lighting rod Pokemon make excellent partners to shit like Gyrados in doubles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 19:07:37 No.27714226 Report

Quoted By: >>27715672

>>27712791
That's pretty cool.

If anyone ever actually played Doubles, it could be useful, too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 20:03:21 No.27715533 Report

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>>27709643
>implying that they do not have unique alola forms
>implying gamefreak would show every evolution and pre evolution of alola forms spoiling the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 20:08:42 No.27715672 Report

Quoted By: >>27715926

>>27714226

Doubles is the official format.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 20:14:09 No.27715817 Report

Quoted By: >>27716000

>>27712470
>where I don't think we will get an Alolan Exeggcute.
Because we won't. We've already seen normal Exeggcute

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 20:15:10 No.27715846 Report

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>>27712333
That whole thing was in reference to Detective Pikachu

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 20:16:46 No.27715893 Report

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>>27709643
>Teach cubone earthquake and other good moves
>Evolve it
>Can't learn them anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 20:17:56 No.27715926 Report

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>>27715672
99% battles are single in the game.
>official format
GTFO with your VGC bullshit no one care about your shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 20:18:41 No.27715945 Report

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>>27711898
If for some reason we got a second gen 1 remake I could see them turning the ghost Marowak into Alolan Marowak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 20:18:51 No.27715952 Report

Quoted By: >>27715985

>>27712262
>immunities are bad
should've gotta Huge Power instead imirite

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 20:20:24 No.27715985 Report

Quoted By: >>27716601

>>27715952
should've leave Rock Head as it was because Flare Blitz combo.
> no fuck it let's leave Lightning Rod because Marowak was always special
imirite?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 20:20:48 No.27716000 Report

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>>27715817
Which is a shame. I'd have liked it if Alolan Exeggute's shells weren't cracked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 20:35:44 No.27716400 Report

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>>27712079
The cubone dies and is cremated. BAM, fire/ghost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 20:36:37 No.27716429 Report

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Pikachu itself will never change because people will complain

The closest you got was the costumes in ORAS

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 20:43:18 No.27716601 Report

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>>27715985
>should've leave Rock Head as it was because Flare Blitz combo

that's boring, i'm pretty sure it's gonna have its share of fire/ghost "bone" moves to make it more fun to use instead of just turning it into a Fire type Tyrantrum

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 20:46:26 No.27716666 Report

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>>27710354
>Jibanyan wearing an airplane hat
now that wasn't even trying

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Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 20:49:23 No.27716747 Report

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>>27710280
>in any way shape or form.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 20:53:54 No.27716856 Report

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>>27712154
Ghost-types aren't really dead, though

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 21:24:17 No.27717593 Report

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>>27710280
>what are Pikachus costumes in Gen6

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 21:29:12 No.27717679 Report

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>Alolan Meowth evolves
>is now a normal Persian

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 21:31:42 No.27717719 Report

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>>27712079
this post screams reddit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 22:44:36 No.27719585 Report

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>>27709643
SURFING PIKACHU FUCKING WHEN

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 23:08:45 No.27720270 Report

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>>27709643
Pikachu has like 50 fucking forms, i think maybe just maybe Raichu should get some love, but they shafted Cubone though, pieces of shit, his mom is fucking dead

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Aug 2016 23:15:32 No.27720427 Report

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>>27709643
>Not making a Alola version of your beloved mascot

Changing the appearance of your mascot isn't a good thing.

Also the new mimic pokemon would look weird by comparison

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Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2016 00:40:35 No.27722185 Report

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C'mon, Game Freak, he's got the blue eyes already and everything. If i remember the episode right he could even SENSE waves coming.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2016 02:20:12 No.27724541 Report

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>>27709643
So does this mean that Pikachu will always evolve into Alolan Raichu or will there be ways to chose how Raichu evolves? Will Pikachu be able to learn surf from the HM now?

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