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>>27727193
>new to Nuzlockes
>making my way through SS
>tear through E4, losing only one Pokémon early on due to bad luck
>get to Lance
>get completely swept by Aerodactyl

I agree, fuck this guy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2016 04:30:09 No.27727277 Report

Quoted By: >>27727340 >>27728229 >>27728520

>>27727193
No, but not far off.

Diantha doesn't do jack shit/have a challenging team. Lance at least was the first champion to have a role in the story

Fuck X and Y in general

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2016 04:31:25 No.27727303 Report

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Yes. Fucking retarded Flying-type team full of repeats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2016 04:33:13 No.27727340 Report

Quoted By: >>27728229

>>27727277
>Lance at least was the first champion to have a role in the story
Barring Blue, of course

Diantha really was literally who tier though. Not even NPCs remembered her name.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2016 04:41:14 No.27727512 Report

Quoted By: >>27728180 >>27728724 >>27729185

He's really cool, but his team was mediocre.

In G/S/C, there was just a limited number of Pokemon available that filled his niche.

HGSS could have done better and did so, but only after you'd already beaten him.

BW2 gave him the best team he's had yet, but like with any Leader/Champion that specializes in a single type, it falls short.

Also, his Pokemon are very under-leveled.

If you guys had the option to, what would Lance's team be like?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2016 04:42:27 No.27727540 Report

Quoted By: >>27728229 >>27729439

Nope. Diantha is. No in-game presence at all and her team is mediocre as hell.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2016 05:14:58 No.27728138 Report

Quoted By: >>27728229 >>27728255

>>27727193
Diantha is the worst Champion. I thought everyone agreed on this by now. Her character is literally "who" (and she looks like a dude)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2016 05:16:32 No.27728171 Report

Quoted By: >>27728255 >>27728264

>>27727193
Nah. The worst would have to be Alder.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2016 05:17:08 No.27728180 Report

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>>27727512
>Also, his Pokemon are very under-leveled.
I just finished a SS playthrough before coming on here, and his team was about 10 levels higher than mine. Granted, I used the Dratini and could've been more efficient with how I trained him, but that probably only cost me one or two levels for the team average.

He's underleveled compared to other champions, but that's just a consequence of being in Johto.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2016 05:19:32 No.27728229 Report

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>>27727277
>>27727340
>>27727540
>>27728138
At least her battle theme is nice. I enjoy it a lot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2016 05:20:49 No.27728255 Report

Quoted By: >>27728555

>>27728138
>>27728171
Between these two.

Alder is barely the champion, even if he has a based team and theme.

Diantha is, as stated, literally who, she has a weak-assed team, and a boring theme.

Alder's the better character, and both of them are such terrible champions that they basically have to stand on the rest of their character. Alder wins by that line of reasoning, but only barely.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2016 05:21:09 No.27728264 Report

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>>27728171
Shut the fuck up, faggot. Alder is God-tier with a cool ass team, even if it isn't super strong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2016 05:23:46 No.27728305 Report

Quoted By: >>27728527 >>27728654

Out of curiosity has anyone actually fought Diantha without the EXP Share or in a Nuzlocke? I feel like she gets most of the hate from just being in a game that makes overleveling too easy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2016 05:27:28 No.27728380 Report

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No, he was cool storywise and a bitch to battle gamewise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2016 05:29:58 No.27728418 Report

Quoted By: >>27728555

>>27727193
>says Lance is worst champion
>Iris exists
>Wallace exists
>Diantha exists

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2016 05:32:41 No.27728461 Report

Quoted By: >>27728482

No. Diantha is worst. She's supposed to be a fairy type user.
She's got a mexican wrestling hawk,two fossils,a ghost,a goo dragon and finally a fairy.
Atleast Lance has 3 dragon types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2016 05:33:55 No.27728482 Report

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>>27728461
>She's supposed to be a fairy type user.
Citation Needed

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2016 05:35:53 No.27728520 Report

Quoted By: >>27728556

>>27727277
Diantha is also ugly as sin. Lance at least looks presentable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2016 05:35:55 No.27728521 Report

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No. Diantha is worst. She's supposed to be a fairy type user.
She's got a mexican wrestling hawk,two fossils,a ghost,a goo dragon and finally a fairy.
Atleast Lance has 3 dragon type. Also,Lance helps you during the story.
All diantha does is appear in a station and talk a bit. then leave.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2016 05:36:32 No.27728527 Report

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>>27728305
I turned off the Exp share when I got it and still soloed her, no items, with my own Tyrantrum.

Even disregarding levels, her team is just weak. Only Gardevoir poses a legitimate threat, but it is still weaker than Seibold's Gyarados.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2016 05:38:11 No.27728555 Report

Quoted By: >>27728603

>>27728255(me)
>>27728418
>Wallace exists
Shit, I forgot about him. Never mind, neither Alder nor Diantha can claim the title of worst champion after this sack of shit sat on that throne.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2016 05:38:22 No.27728556 Report

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>>27728520
We already fixed her.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2016 05:40:19 No.27728591 Report

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>>27727193
The player character is always the worst champion.
Gains champion status and then abandons his post.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2016 05:40:52 No.27728603 Report

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>>27728555
How is Wallace considered worse than Steven when only the latter gets destroyed by Surf in the damn Water Route Region?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2016 05:43:50 No.27728654 Report

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>>27728305
I one shotted every single pokemon she had on a nuzlocke with no exp share. It was absolutely pathetic. Easily the worst champion. Everything was incredibly fragile with glaring weaknesses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2016 05:49:04 No.27728724 Report

Quoted By: >>27728827

>>27727512

>If you guys had the option to, what would Lance's team be like?

I'm no good at team building, but ideally you'd want to keep to his "theme" of being a Dragon Master without necessarily stacking the entire team with Dragon-types. Maybe three to four Dragons, three to two "conceptually close enough to Dragons to be suitable" would work? For the Dragons, I'd go with Dragonite (classic), Kingdra (covers ice weakness), and Dragalge (for Fairies). Maybe a Mega Charizard X, though in an ideal world Dragonite would finally get its Mega Evolution and be his ace.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2016 05:58:57 No.27728827 Report

Quoted By: >>27728924

>>27728724
>>27728724
>kingdra
I know kingdra is clair's signature pokemon, but it's always surprised me that lance doesn't have one. It's such a great fuck you to players that have gotten this far by relying on STAB super effective to sweep their way through gym leaders that I'm really surprised they didn't give it to Lance instead of his rather pathetic Gyarados

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2016 06:07:37 No.27728924 Report

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>>27728827

He did finally get one in BW2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2016 06:12:03 No.27728982 Report

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No
Diantha, by all measures

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2016 06:15:17 No.27729021 Report

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Diantha is above and beyond the worst.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2016 06:16:35 No.27729037 Report

Quoted By: >>27729210 >>27729245 >>27729250 >>27729271

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2016 06:18:45 No.27729068 Report

Quoted By: >>27729265

Diantha is underrated. Most of the complaints levied at her (not having that much of a role, being weak) describes just about every champion not named Cynthia.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2016 06:29:46 No.27729185 Report

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>>27727512
It wouldn't clearly be more of a flying team than dragon, I tell you what. His rematch in HGSS is bretty good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2016 06:32:00 No.27729210 Report

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>>27729037
>Blue
>harder than Lance

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2016 06:34:06 No.27729245 Report

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>>27729037
Blue was the only one I never beat, but then again I was a dumb kid so that's probably why.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2016 06:34:24 No.27729250 Report

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>>27729037
This is stupidly biased against Iris and you know it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2016 06:35:12 No.27729265 Report

Quoted By: >>27729336

>>27729068
Every champion not named cynthia?
Blue/green/whoever you named them
Took a big role in the game,being your Rival,he was the original rival.
Lance,from my experience didn't appear much,but he was from the Elite 4 and decided to take on the role of a champion
Steven appears here and there in im pretty sure both the original RS and the remakes
Alder and Iris im not sure of.
Diantha is the true terrible champion.She never really appears.
She's only got 1 fairy,atleast lance has 3 dragons. she's got 2 pokemon weak to fairy. when playing Y,I honestly expected her to show up more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2016 06:35:35 No.27729271 Report

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>>27729037
>lance having a better personality over alder

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2016 06:39:19 No.27729327 Report

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>no mention of Iris
Little niglet

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2016 06:39:55 No.27729336 Report

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>>27729265

Blue was a joke thanks to Gen 1's horrendous AI. Steven barely appears, only showing up IIRC at Dewford and Sootopolis before the League. Alder is similar, only having like one major appearance before the league gets taken over, and Iris is only slightly more present in BW2.

Lance's team was fucking terrible, and champions in general should not have teams composed almost entirely of a single type. Steven is the only champion who has been able to make that work, and even then he's a bit of a pushover.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Aug 2016 06:47:44 No.27729439 Report

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>>27727540

Who gives a shit about "in game presence"? What is the fucking hang-up over that with so many here?

I'd rather the Champion be a mystery when you get to them the first time.

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