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Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 14:29:29 No.27939268 View View Reply Original Report

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All Pokemon should have the same stats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 14:30:23 No.27939284 Report

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>>27939268
no

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 14:34:16 No.27939335 Report

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Retard of the day isssss.... >>27939268
ding ding ding

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 14:36:11 No.27939356 Report

Quoted By: >>27942586 >>27942889 >>27945473

No matter what anyone says, final stages SHOULD have extremely similar base stat totals.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 14:36:14 No.27939359 Report

Quoted By: >>27939383 >>27948254

>>27939268
There was a digimon game that allowed you to 999 stat any digimon shit was cash

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 14:37:23 No.27939368 Report

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>>27939268
Commies pls go

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 14:38:24 No.27939383 Report

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>>27939359
There was monster rancher, where properly trained monsters could have similar stats regardless of what they were.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 15:12:13 No.27939866 Report

Quoted By: >>27942889 >>27945422 >>27946130

>>27939268
Agreed, there's no reason it's a bad idea

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 15:12:56 No.27939872 Report

Quoted By: >>27942978 >>27944487

>>27939268
I'd rather have female/male forms have different stats

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 15:16:32 No.27939946 Report

Quoted By: >>27942889

Remove stats entirely, now that pokémon have overt natures and can now be properly animated. Stat affecting moves now give pluses and minuses and types are variety enough for battle, in addition to the increase in variety of pokémon themselves now being equal

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 17:32:03 No.27942471 Report

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>>27939268
Go away Blizzard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 17:40:31 No.27942586 Report

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>>27939356
Despite what you may have heard to the contrary you are fucking stupid

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 17:40:38 No.27942589 Report

Quoted By: >>27943071

>slowpoke should be as fast as ninjask
>sunkern should have as much attack as machamp

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 17:43:17 No.27942641 Report

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>>27939268
stupid smelly commie

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 17:53:30 No.27942836 Report

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>>27939268
Agreed, do this and remove TMs and HMs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 17:54:16 No.27942847 Report

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>>27939268
So the only difference between Pokemon should be their typings, and movepools?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 17:56:54 No.27942889 Report

Quoted By: >>27943039

>>27942836
>>27939946
>>27939866
>>27939356
>>27939268
>how to ruin pokemon

Alphaville !!TORtoOQMEfy

Alphaville !!TORtoOQMEfy Sat 20 Aug 2016 18:02:11 No.27942978 Report

Quoted By: >>27943034 >>27943050

>>27939872
I believe this used to be a thing. Males tended to have more offensive stats and females had more defensive stats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 18:04:48 No.27943034 Report

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>>27942978
When will you change your trip? Being underage on 4chan, it's whatever, but you fucked up and showed you're underage,and have the gall to still use your stupid trip when it ain't needed. I am genuinely curious why you aren't banned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 18:05:19 No.27943039 Report

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>>27942889
>I'll just leave it at that
Spooks

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 18:06:14 No.27943050 Report

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>>27942978
every thread until you're permabanned

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 18:06:22 No.27943052 Report

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>>27943034
>us

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 18:07:24 No.27943071 Report

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>>27942589
>some pokémon should simply be superior

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 18:13:59 No.27943182 Report

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>>27943071
Yes? It wouldn't make sense for Caterpie to be as strong as Garchomp, for example.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 18:17:03 No.27943239 Report

Quoted By: >>27944655 >>27944765

>>27943071

Equalizing their stats wouldn't make them all equal though. Anything with a detrimental ability (slaking/archeops/regigigas etc) become even more useless than they already are, while the only viable pokemon end up being huge power, -ate or prankster users.

Fucking terrible idea.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 18:32:29 No.27943541 Report

Quoted By: >>27944514 >>27946338

where's mewtwo?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 18:37:36 No.27943658 Report

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>>27943071
People shit on GF for not rebalancing the dex, but in the end, this is what their fans want. 15 to 30 useful pokemon and a bunch of vendor trash. And they will get pretty angry if any steps are taken to fix it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 18:42:31 No.27943775 Report

Quoted By: >>27943898 >>27944058

I think IVs should be completely outside of the player's control to follow the idea that each individual pokemon is unique.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 18:49:06 No.27943898 Report

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>>27943775
Nah I think it makes sense, IV's are basically genetics and I think its a cool idea, that if you breed 2 fast pokemon the child will probably fast too.
Eventhough I don't have the patience for IV breeding, I think its a neat system it really feels like you are a pokemon breeder.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 18:49:31 No.27943910 Report

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Everyone in this thread is retarded. Level stats is a terrible idea but an attempt by GF to bring the ranges of stats a little closer together and ending power creep would be welcome.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 18:49:43 No.27943916 Report

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>>27939268
Smeargle confirmed god tier

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 18:57:51 No.27944058 Report

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>>27943775
I've been thinking that IVs would be better as a limited pool of points. Like, you have 90 IV points and they are distrubuted among the stats with 0 to 31 in each. That way, there are preferred point distributions you can breed for based on what the player wants out of the pokemon. But, you aren't just breeding up to a perfect all maximum number.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 19:04:00 No.27944175 Report

Quoted By: >>27944255 >>27944287 >>27945307 >>27946205

>>27939268
Pokemon should have similar BSTs based on their stage of evolution.
>Baby: 200 - 250
>Basic: 300 - 350
>Stage 1: 400 - 450
>Stage 2: 500 - 550
>Unevolving: 400 - 500
>Mega: 600 - 650
>Legendary: 700 - 750
>Mega Legendary: 800

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 19:07:37 No.27944255 Report

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>>27944175
And then everybody used Legendaries and no other Pokemon was ever used again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 19:09:21 No.27944287 Report

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>>27944175
What IS the difference between baby and basic? Like, what makes a nidoran different from a munchlax or whatever?

Babies should just be basic pokemon.

Also, what the other guy said about legendaries.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 19:20:05 No.27944487 Report

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>>27939872

No, gen 2 pulled that and even Gamefreak realized its retarded and fixed it later.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 19:21:19 No.27944514 Report

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>>27943541

Mewtwo's more of a singles legendary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 19:22:20 No.27944535 Report

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>>27944058

No because that would just make them needlessly complicated effort values.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 19:24:31 No.27944591 Report

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>>27944255
And competitive remained the same as it was before the BST changed.

>>27944287
Baby Pokemon belong in the undiscovered egg group and are unable to breed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 19:27:02 No.27944655 Report

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>>27943239
This what the fuck OP. If you want them to have the same stats you might as well remove abilities to finish ruining the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 19:32:55 No.27944765 Report

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>>27943239
>>27944655
Abilities ruined pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 19:35:37 No.27944819 Report

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>>27944535
That would make them actually matter. As it is right now, pokemon might as well come prepacked with maximum IVs, as there is no point in having anything other than max in five stats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 20:00:28 No.27945307 Report

Quoted By: >>27945719

>>27944175
>Basic: 300 - 350
>Stage 1: 400 - 450
>Stage 2: 500 - 550
This totally screws over pokemon that can only evolve once.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 20:06:39 No.27945422 Report

Quoted By: >>27945563 >>27945637

>>27939866
Yes, there is. You need different Pokemon to fill different roles. Who's your defensive pivot if all Pokemon have the same defenses? Also, stats aren't even the major deciding factor of a Pokemon's potential: movepool, abilities, and especially typing are all more important. It's the reason Sableye is better than Spiritomb, Smeargle is better than Spinda, and Skarmory is better than Avalugg.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 20:08:33 No.27945473 Report

Quoted By: >>27946383 >>27946440

>>27939356

Starters do

But the tiers are still dependent on their moveset

That's why Delphox is trash while Chestnaught and Greninja are OU and Uber

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 20:12:30 No.27945563 Report

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>>27945422
That's why Pokemon should have the same/similar BSTs, but different stat distributions. That way the only determining factor in whether or not a pokemon is good can be the moveset and abilities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 20:16:03 No.27945637 Report

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>>27945422
Anon there is no reason why your legendary Pokemon you found at the end of the game after beating all the possible trainers in the region should be at all stronger than the bug found on my way to the first forest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 20:18:21 No.27945689 Report

Quoted By: >>27945765 >>27945869

>>27945637
Is true, legendaries have no reason to be stronger than everything else. They are just pokemon and it's not like they are even any harder to catch than everything else anymore. Hell, a ton of them are just gifts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 20:19:54 No.27945719 Report

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>>27945307
Make base form Stage 1 and evolved form Stage 2 then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 20:21:39 No.27945765 Report

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>>27945689
>Legendaries like Arceus, the creator of the Pokemon universe, should be at the same power level as common Pokemon.
What?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 20:26:28 No.27945869 Report

Quoted By: >>27946040

>>27945689
>it's not like they are even any harder to catch than everything else
Actually, the formula to catch pokemon makes it so it is literally harder to catch a legendary pokemon than most pokemon. Not to mention that you literally cannot catch some of them and have to receive them as gifts as you mentioned.
I think anyone who uses a legendary is a niggerfaggot, but you're the bigger one for thinking this way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 20:34:01 No.27946040 Report

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>>27945869
You just have to throw more pokeballs at it. That's not "harder" just tedious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 20:37:18 No.27946124 Report

Quoted By: >>27946245

I completely agree, Togepi should have the same stats as the god of all pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 20:37:34 No.27946130 Report

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>>27939268
>>27939866
>>27942847
How has nobody brought up Averagemons, yet? It's quite literally this, with a few bans set in place.
http://www.smogon.com/dex/xy/formats/averagemons/

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Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 20:41:08 No.27946205 Report

Quoted By: >>27946245

>>27944175
>Shedinja with 500 BST
>1/191/95/64/64/85

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 20:42:55 No.27946245 Report

Quoted By: >>27946280

>>27946205
>>27946124
>People on /vp/ are this dumb and understand everything literally
This board is truly 12.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 20:44:14 No.27946280 Report

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>>27946245
Here's a You.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 20:44:51 No.27946293 Report

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>>27946280
Gracias

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 20:47:09 No.27946338 Report

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>>27943541
Well, Talonflame has bad stats, to be honest

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 20:48:59 No.27946383 Report

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>>27945473
but the fact that I would let delphox ravage my ass with her stick immediately makes her a more viable as a pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 20:51:41 No.27946440 Report

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>>27945473
Since when is Chestnaught OU?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 22:11:08 No.27948254 Report

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>>27939359
Some RPG game does that, where the Base-Stat only determine how much "effort" you need to get max stat, not your max stat entirely.
But that won't work in Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2016 22:27:38 No.27948579 Report

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>>27939268
I disagree but stats should be more balanced there's no reason one Pokemon should be blatantly better than an other it should always have some kind of edge

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