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How to Fix Pokken

Anonymous Wed 24 Aug 2016 21:39:37 No.28036662 View View Reply Original Report

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>every Pokemon is now playable
>even ones new in SuMo

is it good now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Aug 2016 21:40:17 No.28036679 Report

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>>28036662
Better online and more characters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Aug 2016 21:40:52 No.28036696 Report

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pokken isn't broken it just died

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Aug 2016 21:41:27 No.28036709 Report

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>>28036662
I'd be shook

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Aug 2016 21:49:57 No.28036904 Report

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>>28036662
Make it exactly like every other fighting game so no one can complain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Aug 2016 21:51:24 No.28036940 Report

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>>28036904
I played the demo and it felt like every other fighting game I've ever played

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Aug 2016 21:52:59 No.28036973 Report

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>>28036662
you should go help the devs make a balanced moveset for every single Pokemon, I'm sure they'll appreciate it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Aug 2016 21:53:05 No.28036975 Report

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>>28036940
Apparently it's not "deep" enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Aug 2016 21:54:32 No.28037004 Report

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>>28036662
Add extensive single player content like all fighting games have. At least that's what I've heard.

ANON

ANON Wed 24 Aug 2016 21:57:22 No.28037065 Report

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>>28036662
Corretion

>every FIGHTING TYPE Pokemon is now playable

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Aug 2016 22:17:21 No.28037470 Report

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Give it lobbies in online multiplayer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Aug 2016 22:31:15 No.28037724 Report

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>>28036975
It's missing an EX bar for all EX bar related mechanics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Aug 2016 23:02:09 No.28038274 Report

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No, it has major problems besides the roster

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Aug 2016 23:06:42 No.28038342 Report

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>>28036662
Add interesting pokemon not just forcefeds babies.

Sheeeeiit I woulda got it if it had Scrafty or Malamar but nah Dark Mewtwo/ Lucha Pikachu and Braixen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Aug 2016 23:13:59 No.28038452 Report

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>>28036662
>over 800 playable characters

That would be a shallow, unbalanced mess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Aug 2016 23:15:17 No.28038471 Report

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>>28038342
Shadow Mewtwo and Pikachu Libre saved resources by mostly reusing a model, skeleton, and some animations. Not having them wouldn't have let Scrafty or Malamar be playable characters. Just accept those two as a bonus.
Braixen is fair game though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Aug 2016 23:16:21 No.28038489 Report

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>>28036662
I would play it more

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Aug 2016 23:17:58 No.28038511 Report

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>>28038452
Most characters in a fighting game was like 80 in Def Jam FFNY and next Tekken Tag?

They were pretty balanced.....but nah not even 150, just some final evolutions, knoc out the legendaries/Klingklangs,Garbodors, Dugtrio types of pokes and we should be good to go to wither down the options.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Aug 2016 23:27:19 No.28038636 Report

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>>28036662
Am I the only one that was disappointed the whole roster wasn't fighting types? I thought it be cool to have the fighting matches like Ash's Primape was in.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Aug 2016 23:30:16 No.28038684 Report

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>>28038636

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Aug 2016 23:30:38 No.28038689 Report

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>>28038511
>Forgetting MK: Armageddon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Aug 2016 23:45:38 No.28038934 Report

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>>28038689
FUCKKKK, and my brother/cousins and I been grinding MK since I was like 5.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2016 01:09:37 No.28040355 Report

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>SuMo
maybe, just maybe, commit Suicune

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2016 01:11:36 No.28040389 Report

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>>28040355
Suicune shouldn't have been in Pokken

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2016 01:12:28 No.28040402 Report

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>>28036975
optimal combos are just mashable autocombos and the game could definitely use a second use for the super bar other than just activating your super mode

oh also giving you superarmor vs light attacks while powered up is the clowniest garbage ever lmao

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2016 01:14:05 No.28040422 Report

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>>28036662
>making 800+ unique movesets

Wow, it's so simple! You're a genius!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2016 01:16:24 No.28040461 Report

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>>28040389
I feel like Legendaries in general shouldn't have been in Pokken, with maybe Mewtwo being the exception.

Then again I'm also kind of salty Scizor and Bisharp didn't make it in so I'm definitely biased.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2016 01:23:16 No.28040598 Report

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>The camera no longer stays behind each player
This is so multiplayer can be done on one console

>Roster changes
We didn't need all those fire pokemon. One rep for each type would have been better.

>Wii U exclusive
w e w

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2016 01:30:16 No.28040755 Report

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>>28040402
>oh also giving you superarmor vs light attacks while powered up is the clowniest garbage ever lmao

Yeah, it just makes you run the hell away and try not to do anything when they have it up.

Especially Charizard's, fuck Charizards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2016 02:08:09 No.28041596 Report

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I think Pokken's online needs some fixes
>Skill points can't be used in Ranked
>Being able to turn skill points off for friendlies
>Online lobbies
>Actual punishment for disconnecting in an online match

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2016 02:12:09 No.28041686 Report

Quoted By: >>28041932 >>28041947 >>28048276

Honestly, every Pokemon is actually playable. Some Pokemon are a little better than others, but there's no significant jump.

It's pretty good. If only the game want dead. The winners of Wprlda weren't even in the ceremony.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2016 02:22:54 No.28041913 Report

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>>28036662
>>every Pokemon is now playable
>>even ones new in SuMo
Now it's convoluted and doesn't come out until 20 years after gen 7 because of all the balancing involved.

Basically just expand the roster to 40, add some side mode and you're set

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2016 02:23:57 No.28041932 Report

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>>28041686
>every Pokemon is actually playable
Having 800+ Pokemon including forms would make it a complete clusterfuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2016 02:24:41 No.28041947 Report

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>>28041686
I dunno, Blaziken and Gengar are pretty bad. Machamp is too, but he only needs one touch to win.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2016 02:25:39 No.28041960 Report

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>>28036662
>SuMo

get the fuck out

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2016 02:26:43 No.28041980 Report

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>>28041947
They need to nerf the projectile spammers

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2016 02:34:33 No.28042142 Report

Quoted By: >>28042229 >>28044085

I really liked Pokken until I started playing Online
As a Weavile main, I got off to a decent start; had a winning record and moved up a tier. Then I started running into the really fun players; ranged Pokemon that cover the entire screen with projectiles and play keep away. Fucking Chandelure mind boggles me completely with the ranged grab bullshit, like why does that exist in the game? These players will spam counter moves so if I misclick an attack on my approach or actually try to close distance with an attack I get fucked. Weavile's grab range is incredibly small and the only way to deal with counter moves is to grab, the window to punish after the counter move is so tiny that the opponent can literally sit in a corner and spam counter and I absolutely could not do anything.
I got frustrated and quit; I would pick up the game again if they added Empoleon (my favourite Pokemon). Rumour is he's in the patch data somewhere along with Scizor so I'm hopeful. If Empoleon were to be an assist-mon, I'd never touch Pokken again until that was rectified.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2016 02:38:52 No.28042229 Report

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>>28042142
>losing with one of the top tier Pokemon
Literally git gud anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2016 03:09:30 No.28042806 Report

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>>28041980
>They need to nerf projectile spammers
>What is CADC?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2016 03:11:13 No.28042853 Report

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>>28042806
not enough

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2016 03:17:47 No.28043015 Report

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>>28042853
>What is CADC?
>What is jumping?
>What is blocking?
>What is patience?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2016 04:01:28 No.28043993 Report

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>>28041980
They need to make it so that fewer projectiles deal chip damage on block.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2016 04:03:20 No.28044044 Report

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>>28036662
>I am a child who understands literally nothing about game development

That's what your post actually says, OP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2016 04:04:43 No.28044085 Report

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>>28042142
>the only way to deal with counter moves is to grab
Incorrect. A counter move that isn't fully charged will be beaten by another counter move. Weavile is also fast as shit and can easily close the gap to initiate a grab, or better yet just wait til the counterattack ends and lunge their shit on the backswing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2016 04:06:39 No.28044127 Report

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>>28043015
Says a braixen poster

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2016 04:08:49 No.28044180 Report

Quoted By: >>28044395

>Attack triangle but tons of moves break the rules with armor pierce or attacks not always beating grabs on wake up and clashing instead. Yes I know characters generally have a move that beats grabs 100% but not all of them are safe
>the bullshit armor you gain when in synergy mode
>hurr durr look at this sick combo I did 5 times in a row because it's easy and the only thing I need to do
No thanks. You can keep your shit game

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2016 04:10:55 No.28044257 Report

Quoted By: >>28045102

>>28044127
Braixen has to deal with spam too, y'know. None of her projectiles can beat other projectiles, so she can't just stay back and camp against Chandy and Gardevoir.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2016 04:17:53 No.28044395 Report

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>>28044180
I know how you feel. It sucks trying to beat grabs, only for them to clank. Try jumping on wakeup. It beats grabs much more consistently.
And yeah, the armor on Burst is pretty bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2016 04:18:24 No.28044406 Report

Quoted By: >>28044517

>>28036662
>721 playable fighters.
...
FUCK NO.
Dude. Fuck. DUDE. Look, imma gonna level with you. About some shit. Okay?

Fighting games *require* a finite roster of playable characters. There's a reason for this. 90% of high tier fighting game play is about knowing everything about your chosen fighter, and knowing everything about your opponent's fighter.

One of the *worst* things a fighting game can have is an oversized roster, *especially* one filled with bad choices.

Look at Smash Bros. How many people do you think got turned off of that game because they picked, I dunno, Ice Climbers, Bowser, Jigglypuff, whatever, and then their buddy picked Fox or Falco or Metaknight and wrecked their face off?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2016 04:24:05 No.28044517 Report

Quoted By: >>28044534 >>28045118 >>28048120

>>28044406
I get what you're trying to say, but Pokken could stand to have a few more characters. There are more then enough choices, and it could help bring new players to the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2016 04:25:05 No.28044534 Report

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>>28044517
*than

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2016 04:27:20 No.28044571 Report

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>>28036662
Had more story and more things to do. Maybe more gamemods or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2016 04:48:56 No.28045102 Report

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>>28044257
The slam thing eliminates projectiles, from what I remember.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2016 04:50:03 No.28045118 Report

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>>28044517
>I get what you're trying to say, but Pokken could stand to have a few more characters
And it's getting them. Most fighting game franchises start with a small cast to get the mechanics down. Pokken is trying to be a good fighting game- if you want a pure fanservice game, go play Pokemon Rumble.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2016 05:01:42 No.28045450 Report

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Midnight bump.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2016 08:06:11 No.28047903 Report

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>>28040402
>>28040755
You can mitigate that super-armor by using Victini during their super for all-crits.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2016 08:23:50 No.28048021 Report

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>>28036662
What about all the ones from ReBlGrYeGoSiCrRuSaFiReLeGrEmDiPePlHeGoSoSiBlWhBlTwWhTwEkWaOmRuAlSa?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2016 08:40:18 No.28048120 Report

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>>28044517

They've been adding a new character every month or two since it released

July 2015: Game was released
August 2015: Blaziken was added
September 2015: Pikachu Libre was added
December 2015: Sceptile was added
February 2016: Chandelure was added
May 2016: Mewtwo was added
July 2016: Garchomp, Braixen, Shadow Mewtwo, and Darkrai were added

This isn't a series that's been going for decades like Smash or Tekken, this is a new IP

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2016 08:52:36 No.28048232 Report

Quoted By: >>28048284 >>28048310

>tfw wanted to play Pokken but refused to buy a Wii U
Anyone else hoping for a NX port with additional content?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2016 08:55:39 No.28048259 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2016 08:57:28 No.28048276 Report

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>>28041686
>The winners of Wprlda weren't even in the ceremony.
They had the finals and the ceremony a day earlier

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2016 08:58:32 No.28048284 Report

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>>28048232
>refused to buy a Wii U
for what purpose

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2016 09:02:02 No.28048310 Report

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>>28048232
>refused to buy a Wii U
Weird. It's the best console on the market right now.

That said, Nintendo consoles have been backwards compatible with last generation since the Wii, so you're probably fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2016 09:03:04 No.28048317 Report

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>>28048284
Because by the time Pokken was being released we knew about the NX already. I'd rather save my money for that one instead, especially since it appears to be a 3DS successor as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2016 09:04:00 No.28048326 Report

Quoted By: >>28049678

>>28041947
Blaziken has won a major tournament. Machamp has placed well consistently. Gengar was broken as shit at launch so he got nerf batted rather aggressively.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2016 11:21:20 No.28049678 Report

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>>28048326
Which one did Blaziken win?

Wasn't Machamp second place this worlds? And he also won Milan/Italy against Mewtwo right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2016 11:42:55 No.28049931 Report

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>>28036662
Yeah cool so they should start right now and we'll finally have good Pokken in about 20 years

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