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Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 01:36:47 No.28084076 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>28084109 >>28084127 >>28084295 >>28084332 >>28085862 >>28087249 >>28087346 >>28090153 >>28091091

is it just me, or the kalos starters make more thematical sense on gen 5 than in 6?

>region's theme being medieval
>bad guys look like knights
>box legendaries are dragons
>final battle is in a castle
>gen 6 starters are based on a mage, a paladin and a rogue, typical classes of medieval themed rpgs

also in gen 7

>region based on tropical islands
>starter trio based on circus animals/circus acts

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 01:38:36 No.28084109 Report

Quoted By: >>28084251 >>28085439

>>28084076
I guess you're right in that regard they. I think they tried with Royalty Serperior and Warrior Samurott but then you just have Emboar.

Also the Gen 7 starters aren't based on circus acts that's just a stupid assumption people came to after struggling to find a theme and seeing that Popplio was a clown.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 01:39:26 No.28084127 Report

Quoted By: >>28084428 >>28084724

>>28084076
>Gen 5 had the Three Musketeers and My Little D'artagnan
>Gen 6 is PokeFrance

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 01:46:22 No.28084251 Report

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>>28084109

man fuck emboar

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 01:48:54 No.28084295 Report

Quoted By: >>28084347

>>28084076
in all honesty, even as a geewunner I do concede that Kalos' starters have the best design/theme/concept cohesion, especially as a group.

Greninja is clearly a watery, frog, ninja (even discounting the name)

Delphox is clearly a fiery, fox magus.

Chesnaut is an armadillo-like plant knight. Okay, he's the hardest to tell, admttedly.

Still, there's an animal, a theme, and an element with each pokemon, and in Kalos there's even a joining theme that brings it altogether.

(though G-1 is excused purely because it was the very beginning and region themes weren't really a thing until maybe 4th gen)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 01:50:55 No.28084332 Report

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>>28084076
Gen 6 was more medieval than Gen 5

Kalos had multiple castles, and the Poke League was a large castle with a Knight E4 member.

Unova was techy as fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 01:51:52 No.28084347 Report

Quoted By: >>28084456

>>28084295

The G1 starters were all reptiles though. It was a simple theme but it worked.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 01:56:22 No.28084428 Report

Quoted By: >>28084724

>>28084127
>PokeFrance does not get the castle or the crusader themed bad guys
>it gets the Manhattan project-esque "ultimate weapon"

How could they fuck this up so badly?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 01:57:33 No.28084456 Report

Quoted By: >>28084562 >>28084590

>>28084347
okay, true. I suppose in an odd way: g2 could be called "the worst" in terms of any sort of theme between the starters.

One is a shrew, one is a crocodile, and then we have a tiny sauropod.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 02:02:57 No.28084543 Report

Quoted By: >>28084723

so what would be the theme for gen 3, 4 and 5?

infernape kinda reminds me of sun wukong, so maybe deities of some kind for gen 4?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 02:03:59 No.28084562 Report

Quoted By: >>28084671

>>28084456
Actually, the Gen 2 starters have the theme of all being pure typed because the Johto region is all about rural, tradition and nature

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 02:06:18 No.28084589 Report

Quoted By: >>28084671

>unova is not!America
>has a bunch of japanese-themed Pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 02:06:19 No.28084590 Report

Quoted By: >>28084671

>>28084456
It makes sense; Johto had a lot of "leftovers" from Gen 1, and it doesn't adhere to a lot of the patterns that got reinforced in later generations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 02:11:09 No.28084671 Report

Quoted By: >>28084962

>>28084562
Huh. I guess there's that, never did think of it that way. I guess it wasn't obvious since I was looking for an aesthetics theme rather than how their typing goes.

Also didn't really think about the rural, tradition, and nature themes.

>>28084589
>The starters were not a cowboy, a football player, and a surfer

Fuuuuuuck.

>>28084590
is this really confirmed? Have they ever said Johto used left-over ideas from Kanto?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 02:13:42 No.28084723 Report

Quoted By: >>28085816

>>28084543
gen 4 is legends, sun wu kong, world turtle, poseidon?

I read in many parts that gen 5 is international-ity or something like that; serperior is european, samurott is japanese, emboar is chinese.

Gen 3 theme is nature, the starters do fit in the theme but they aren't as specific.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 02:13:45 No.28084724 Report

Quoted By: >>28084771 >>28084838

>>28084127
>>28084428
>Musketeers in NY
>Ninjas in Paris
>Renaissance automaton in hawaii

Why GF?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 02:15:38 No.28084756 Report

Quoted By: >>28084782

Unova was a melting pot of truths and ideals, that's why each starter was derived from a different country

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 02:16:28 No.28084771 Report

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>>28084724
Got my ninjas in paris and they goin gorillas

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 02:16:49 No.28084782 Report

Quoted By: >>28084805 >>28084858

>>28084756
>starters MUST have a theme

kids these days

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 02:18:03 No.28084805 Report

Quoted By: >>28085907

>>28084782
Said officially in interviews the Unova starters had that light theming

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 02:19:52 No.28084838 Report

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>>28084724
Well atleast that got ghetto lizard, Murica bird, field slave, & Ms. Daisy correct.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 02:20:46 No.28084858 Report

Quoted By: >>28085907

>>28084782
http://www.thepikaclub.co.uk/wp/ken-sugimori-discusses-blackwhite-starters/

>Ohmura: There was also talk this time about dividing the three starters into Japanese, Western, and Chinese styles of design. Tsutarja was based on Western design, and Pokabu was rooted in a Chinese style, so I was told, “Let’s make Mijumaru into a more Japanese-style design.” Someone even asked, “Can’t you make Mijumaru into a samurai?”

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 02:26:32 No.28084962 Report

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>>28084671
>Snivy could have been cowboy who uses vines as lassos
>Oshawott could have surfed on it's scalchop
>Tepig could be fire/fighting

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 02:27:48 No.28084986 Report

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>no muslims in pokefrance

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 02:52:25 No.28085439 Report

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>>28084109
Being fair, Emboar does fit with the Previously established "Fire/Fighting type based on Journey to the West character."

Granted, that theme has no reason to be here, but whatever.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 03:15:00 No.28085816 Report

Quoted By: >>28087292

>>28084723
Sceptile = lithosphere
Swampert = hydrosphere
Old Blaziken = atmosphere.
Also...
Groudon = lithosphere
Kyogre = hydrosphere
Rayquaza = atmosphere
Latios/Latias = atmosphere
Regirock = lithosphere
Regice = hydrosphere
Registeel = lithosphere

The mythicals play off this pattern by being unearthly instead, Deoxys coming from a Meteorite and Jirachi being a star.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 03:17:33 No.28085862 Report

Quoted By: >>28086946

>>28084076
>>region based on tropical islands
>>starter trio based on circus animals/circus acts

What the fuck is the connection between these, and stop fucking forcing this nonexistent circus theme. Only Popplio has one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 03:19:27 No.28085907 Report

Quoted By: >>28086166 >>28087229 >>28087322

>>28084805
>>28084858

They didn't fucking say that starters MUST have a theme from now on, just that they chose to do one that time.

The final evos have already been leaked and there is no common theme between them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 03:33:31 No.28086166 Report

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>>28085907
there's been a theme for every set of starters up till now, why wouldn't they this time? even if they don't people will give them one anyway.

>The final evos have already been leaked and there is no common theme between them.

Wrestler/archer/dancer, depending on what the owl dex says, there seems to be a performance thing going on or something on that line.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 04:25:26 No.28086946 Report

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>>28085862

that's the point, the theme of the region and the starters have nothing to do with eachother, assuming they are based on circus stuff that is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 04:46:36 No.28087229 Report

Quoted By: >>28087277

>>28085907
Some have pointed out it could be nerd/bully/beauty themed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 04:48:24 No.28087249 Report

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>>28084076
>greninja
>ninja in france when half the games are set in japan

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 04:50:22 No.28087277 Report

Quoted By: >>28088329

>>28087229
The nerd, the jock, the cheerleader. We're all fucking idiots for not figuring this out sooner.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 04:51:08 No.28087292 Report

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>>28085816
The Regis fuck this up desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 04:53:43 No.28087322 Report

Quoted By: >>28090172

>>28085907
Both Unova and Kalos have been said to have themings by the devs, which is the only point I'm making

Anything prior or later is speculation thus far

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 04:55:44 No.28087346 Report

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>>28084076
>region's theme being medieval
What did he mean by this

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Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 06:00:06 No.28088267 Report

Quoted By: >>28090039

GF knew what they were doing, just look at this mons, a ninja and a knight

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 06:02:28 No.28088291 Report

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Ballio, fagcatcannon, and edgeowl are all shitty designs that belong on DeviantArt and that's being nice. Wrestling heel and archer are not circus acts and neither is a mermaid

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 06:05:23 No.28088329 Report

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>>28087277
>We're all fucking idiots

Put that on a banner.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 09:24:42 No.28090039 Report

Quoted By: >>28091329

>>28088267
That you have to trade to get. ie they're not in the natural gameplay and essentially fake bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 09:48:57 No.28090153 Report

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>>28084076
Why would Unova be medieval theme? That's Kalos.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 09:53:35 No.28090172 Report

Quoted By: >>28090212

>>28087322
Dunno, all three Sinnoh starter had definite mythology inspirations

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 09:59:40 No.28090212 Report

Quoted By: >>28090222

>>28090172
Like the Emperor Penguin?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 10:00:31 No.28090222 Report

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>>28090212
The Trident face, you dingus

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 12:10:03 No.28091080 Report

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Gen 6 has mega evolution, repped by a rainbow colored double helix. Gen 7 has Z-Moves, repped by a giant fucking Z. There better be a story reason or se major fucking teasing going on here, like holy shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 12:12:10 No.28091091 Report

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>>28084076
Wait, how the fuck was Unova "medieval"?

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Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 12:42:33 No.28091329 Report

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>>28090039
Trading IS the "natural gameplay" you no-friend having piece of shit.

It's the central mechanic the concept of the fucking series is based around. There should be MORE trade evolutions. Fuck you if you have to emulate.

I hope this is bait and godammit you got me if it is.

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