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Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 05:28:57 No.28087845 View View Reply Original Report

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ITT we create a better team to replace Diantha's shitty ass team. Non-Kalos mons allowed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 05:30:31 No.28087862 Report

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6 level 100 mega fugs all holding life orb

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 05:31:56 No.28087888 Report

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>>28087845
Raise them by roughly 12 levels.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 05:32:02 No.28087890 Report

Quoted By: >>28087927

Talonflame, Dragalge, Sylveon, Meowstic, Goodra and Mega-Gardevoir.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 05:34:31 No.28087927 Report

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>>28087890
Drasna uses Dragalge, though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 05:35:33 No.28087946 Report

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Remove the fossils. Give her Dragalge and Clawitzer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 05:36:41 No.28087966 Report

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The only Pokemon on her team out of place is Hawlucha, Carbink would suit her more

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 05:37:02 No.28087971 Report

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Tyrantrum
Mega-Gardevoir
Garchomp
Spiritomb
Talonflame
Starter super effective against yours.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 05:38:16 No.28087986 Report

Quoted By: >>28088026 >>28088133

>>28087845
Klefki, Goodra, Gourgeist, Pyroar, Clawitzer, Mega Gardevoir

She gets a Steel - Dragon - Fairy trio as well as a Grass - Fire - Water trio. All new Kalos Pokemon too aside from Gardevoir.

Redundancy does not matter since she's not using anyone else's ace Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 05:40:20 No.28088009 Report

Quoted By: >>28088021

>>28087845
>Female Hawlucha
Never understand this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 05:41:18 No.28088021 Report

Quoted By: >>28088028

>>28088009
Most of the time, the Pokemon's gender matches its trainer's.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 05:41:59 No.28088026 Report

Quoted By: >>28088056 >>28088066

>>28087986
pyroar and clawitzer belong to fire and water e4 though...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 05:42:04 No.28088028 Report

Quoted By: >>28088103

>>28088021
is that true?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 05:43:33 No.28088056 Report

Quoted By: >>28088133

>>28088026
And Wikstrom uses Klefki, I know.

I blame Kalos's limited new selection, a paltry 70 or so new Pokemon. Still, Wikstom's ace is Aegislash, Malva's ace is Talonflame, and Siebold's ace is Barbaracle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 05:44:05 No.28088066 Report

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>>28088026
Klefki, Pyroar, Clawitzer, Dragalge, Gourgeist, Gardevoir

:^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 05:44:17 No.28088069 Report

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>>28087845
She shouldve rocked a bad ass furfrou

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 05:47:03 No.28088101 Report

Quoted By: >>28088146 >>28090054

Never realised before, but half her team is super weak to fairy and steel.

I would keep her team as it is, but raise the level to 70-something, give all her mons items, even fucking berries would do, and give them actual proper sets.

Gourgeist: leech seed, will o wisp, phantom force, seed bomb. Takes care of physical mons, water types and other ghosts.

Hawlucha: the same, but acrobatics instead of x-scissor. Either give it flying gem or leave it itemless.

Tyrantrum: replace something with dragon dance and you have a threat. Maybe crunch, and set ability to rock head instead.

Aurorus: hyper voice, thunder wave, light screen, reflect.

Goodra: only needs an assault vest.

Gardevoir: replace moinblast with hyper voice, and shadow ball or thunderbolt with calm mind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 05:47:07 No.28088103 Report

Quoted By: >>28088352 >>28089303

>>28088028
Yes, there are some exceptions though. Can't think of any off the top of my head.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 05:49:03 No.28088133 Report

Quoted By: >>28088265

>>28087986
>>28088056
Alternatively, we can tweak the E4's teams.

Wikstrom - Escavalier, Aggron, Scizor, Aegislash
Malva - Magcargo, Torkoal, Chandelure, Talonflame
Siebold - Poliwrath, Gyarados, Starmie, Barbaracle

So that way, no redundancy. You could even give Malva a Delphox instead if they'd allow characters who aren't rivals to use Starters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 05:50:32 No.28088146 Report

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>>28088101
Aurorus could even run freeze dry instead of screens, since it won't take many hits with that type anyways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 05:53:08 No.28088177 Report

Quoted By: >>28088229

>>28087845
Aegislash, Garchomp, Mega Gardevoir, Amoongus, Tyrantiar, Azumarill. Going off Kalos pokedex, Kalos only pokemon plus not using any aces, limit her pokemon to being sweep by a sword dance Aegislash. Hopefully they learn not limit the pokemon champion to only using new pokemon of the region and instead set it to using only pokemon based off the region dex. Far more selection to pick from, and doesn't set them up to be beaten easily in case of fewer pokemon being added to the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 05:56:44 No.28088229 Report

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>>28088177
This team was pick based on stats, movepool, abilities, and whether it can needed it's hidden abilities to best work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 05:58:56 No.28088249 Report

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>>28087845
it needs to keep the pattern, each pokemon with different colors

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 05:59:00 No.28088251 Report

Quoted By: >>28088277

>>28087845
How about theoretical PWT teams for important past gen trainers in SM?

>N
Zoroark, Seismitoad, Darmanitan, Galvatula, Aegislash, Sylveon
>AZ
Floette-E, Torkoal, Sigilyph, Golurk, Alolan Ninetales, Spiritomb
>Diantha
M-Gardevoir, Talonflame, Noivern, Aegislash, Barbaracle, Gourgeist
>Cynthia
M-Garchomp, Spiritomb, Lucario, Florges, Volcarona, Lurantis
>Blue
M-Pidgeot, Alolan Exeggutor, Gyarados, Arcanine, Tyranitar, Heracross
>Steven
M-Metagross, Skarmory, Aggron, Minior, Excadrill, Rockruff evo
>Wallace
Milotic, Poppmaid, Ludicolo, Politoed, Jellicent, Wishiwashi

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 05:59:59 No.28088265 Report

Quoted By: >>28088300

>>28088133
Flint had an infernape in either DP or Pt (or both)

There was also a random lass with a bulbasaur in GSC, I think. I'm sure there are more examples I can't think of.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 06:01:20 No.28088277 Report

Quoted By: >>28088375

>>28088251
Also
>Looker
M-Audino, Toxicroak, Gumshoos, Arcanine, Luxray, Mimikyu

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 06:03:07 No.28088300 Report

Quoted By: >>28088375

>>28088265
Malva could get a Delphox then and, to give Siebold another Kalos native Water type, he could get Greninja.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 06:05:38 No.28088333 Report

Quoted By: >>28088375

>>28087845
I think the problem is that the big name mons of that gen are kinda shit. The fossils were shit, the pseudo was shit, ect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 06:07:01 No.28088347 Report

Quoted By: >>28088386 >>28088412

>>28087845
Why not tackle a worse Champion's team first? Like Blue? Or Iris?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 06:07:39 No.28088352 Report

Quoted By: >>28088374

>>28088103
Doesn't Wallace from gen 3 have an all female team to go with his gym full of female trainers?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 06:08:35 No.28088361 Report

Quoted By: >>28089476

>>28087845
Arceus, Arceus, Arceus, Arceus, Arceus, Arceus. The game checks you as you enter and decides which plates to give them to counter your team. All level 100

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 06:08:59 No.28088366 Report

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>Mienshao
>Goodra
>Gourgeist
>Empoleon
>Meowstic-F
>Mega Diancie

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 06:09:39 No.28088374 Report

Quoted By: >>28089250

>>28088352
RSE Wallace has a full male team.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 06:09:48 No.28088375 Report

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>>28088277
>>28088300
>>28088333
Dubs, dubs, trips... Good show, lads.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 06:10:05 No.28088378 Report

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Kalos team
Chesnaught (HA)
Delphox (HA)
Greninja (HA)
Goodra
Aegislash
M-Gardevoir

One Pokemon from each generation team (excluding gen 7 obviously)
Gengar
Heracross
M-Gardevoir
Rotom Heat (if you picked Chespin), Rotom Wash (if you picked Fennekin), Rotom Mow (if you picked Froakie)
Excadrill
Goodra

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 06:11:10 No.28088386 Report

Quoted By: >>28088439

>>28088347
What's wrong with their teams?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 06:12:03 No.28088398 Report

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>>28087845
Hawlucha
Talonflame (Gale Wings)
Gourgeist
Greninja (Protean)
Goodra
Mega Gardevoir

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 06:12:44 No.28088412 Report

Quoted By: >>28088439

>>28088347
I am not a fan of Iris as a champion, but her team is cool and has a theme.
It's probably better than Lance's and Steven's. Definitely better than Alder's.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 06:12:59 No.28088417 Report

Quoted By: >>28089498

For Diantha I see 2 options, mixed team of 6 Pokemon that are mostly fairly feminine/appealing to women or make her a Fairy Pokemon specialist:
Team 1: Gourgeist, Pangoro, Goodra, Florges/Sylveon, Heliolisk, M Gardevoir
Team 2: Slurpuff, Aromatisse, Carbink, Sylveon, Florges, M Gardevoir

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 06:15:02 No.28088439 Report

Quoted By: >>28088448 >>28088465 >>28089505

>>28088386
>>28088412
>I am not a fan of Iris as a champion, but her team is cool and has a theme.
The theme is what makes it so weak. She's one of the easiest to sweep straight up with moves every team will carry. All typed champions are shit, as Alder, Wallace and Lance thoroughly demonstrate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 06:16:04 No.28088448 Report

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>>28088439
Steven's team is half weak to Surf, the most important move in the game.
Nothing even resists it.
Iris > Steven

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 06:16:34 No.28088456 Report

Quoted By: >>28088516

>>28087845
Azumarill
>Aqua Tail
>Play Rough
>Super Power
>Return

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 06:17:09 No.28088465 Report

Quoted By: >>28088473

>>28088439
>Wallace
>Not Steven
>In Water Region
>With Surf and Waterfall being needed to reach the E4

Can we stop pretending Steven isn't awful?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 06:18:05 No.28088473 Report

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>>28088465
I don't understand why this board has such a hard-on for Steven.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 06:19:49 No.28088495 Report

Quoted By: >>28088529

A champion's team should have no shitmons.

Was Cynthia the only one that didn't use a shitmon?

I guess Lance too, but 3 Dragonites is kind of lame.

Maybe Iris too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 06:21:01 No.28088516 Report

Quoted By: >>28088521

>>28088456
You're forgetting that her Hawlucha has poison jab, Aurorus has thunder, Gardevoir has Thunderbolt and Gourgeist has Seed bomb

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 06:21:48 No.28088521 Report

Quoted By: >>28088550

>>28088516
I'm saying add Azumarill with that moveset

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 06:22:15 No.28088529 Report

Quoted By: >>28088556 >>28088564

>>28088495
>no shitmons
>uses Spiritomb
What did he mean by this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 06:23:42 No.28088550 Report

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>>28088521
Oh, sorry

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 06:24:18 No.28088556 Report

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>>28088529
Spiritomb didn't have a weakness back then, it wasn't a total shitmon.
If you want a shitmon look at half of Steven's team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 06:25:09 No.28088560 Report

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>>28087845
Dragonite/Steelix/Gardevoir/Electivire/Chandelure/Hawlucha

Diverse types and each mon represents a generation because rather than have its own identity Kalos was stuffed with everything else instead

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 06:25:27 No.28088564 Report

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>>28088529
Good bulk, no weaknesses, Pressure. It can decently annoy you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 06:28:12 No.28088584 Report

Quoted By: >>28088602

Even though Diantha was kinda screwed by the small roster of Kalos mons (its really not that bad team though) her team still has a pretty great coverage. The movesets are pretty great. Her Gardevoir in particular is a hard cookie.

Each time i played without the exp share i had issues with her Gardevoir

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 06:29:47 No.28088597 Report

Quoted By: >>28088622 >>28088665

>>28087845
Do you think we'll ever have another champion without lucario or gardevoir?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 06:30:13 No.28088602 Report

Quoted By: >>28088629

>>28088584
>Each time i played without the exp share
the only way to play gen 6

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 06:32:53 No.28088622 Report

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>>28088597
Next Champion will have whatever Gen 7-mon or new Mega they want to push into the forefront next. I'll put my money on one of Rockruff's evos

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 06:33:37 No.28088629 Report

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>>28088602
Yeah but i played once with exp share and huge team, just switching out them every few routes, interesting expereince but i like the old way better

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 06:38:16 No.28088665 Report

Quoted By: >>28088687 >>28088691

>>28088597
How many champions use Lucario and Gardevoir?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 06:41:28 No.28088687 Report

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>>28088665
Literally one each kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 06:42:11 No.28088691 Report

Quoted By: >>28088710 >>28088717

>>28088665
Diantha and Cynthia, but I bet the next champion will have one of them because that's what fans want, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 06:43:47 No.28088710 Report

Quoted By: >>28088722 >>28088727

>>28088691
I hope they do just to spite your dramatic ass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 06:44:32 No.28088717 Report

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>>28088691
Nah doubt it, why would they even do that? Its not like Gardevoir and Lucario are the only popular mons

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 06:45:16 No.28088722 Report

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>>28088710

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 06:46:02 No.28088727 Report

Quoted By: >>28088756

>>28088710
Maybe I'm just being autistic. I'm just sick of seeing them everywhere.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 06:48:14 No.28088756 Report

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>>28088727
Ever think that they're seen everywhere because they're actually popular?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 07:30:21 No.28089134 Report

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I would give her the following team:

>Carbink or Diancie
>Roserade
>Goodra
>Cloyster
>Mismagius
>M-Gardevoir

I think there's a nice balance of types, stats, and such in there. I tried to remain faithful to the spirit of her old team as well. Also, all of the Pokémon in her team are female.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 07:45:17 No.28089233 Report

Quoted By: >>28089246

M - Diancie lvl 65
Florges lvl 55
Gardevoir lvl 60
Tyrantrum lvl 55
Aigeslash lvl 55
Roserade lvl 55

Go with a royalty/beauty theme and give her a diancie to make it a surprise and actually interesting. Also the levels are on the implication X&Y weren't as easy as they were.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 07:47:02 No.28089246 Report

Quoted By: >>28089314

>>28089233
>Removing her signature Mega

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 07:47:37 No.28089250 Report

Quoted By: >>28089271

>>28088374
Actually his Luvdisc is Female. I had a Nuzlocke where I had a male Poke trying to set up against it, and it used attract and fucked me over.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 07:50:00 No.28089271 Report

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>>28089250
Lemme rephrase that E Wallace is pure Male.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 07:53:51 No.28089303 Report

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>>28088103
A good portion of Saturn's team is female. According to bulbapedo Saturn was pretty often mistaken for a female.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 07:54:47 No.28089314 Report

Quoted By: >>28089322

>>28089246
Are you saying Mega Diancie wouldn't be better as a signature? I mean, I guess there's an argument there, but personally I think it would have been better with that, rather than Mega -Gardevoir. But what do I know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 07:55:57 No.28089322 Report

Quoted By: >>28089333

>>28089314
No, I don't.

Regardless if it would or not you can't just do such a massive change to an established character's signature like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 07:57:08 No.28089333 Report

Quoted By: >>28089352

>>28089322
But if it wouldn't be her signature in the first place, why would it matter?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 07:59:02 No.28089352 Report

Quoted By: >>28089365

>>28089333
Alright then.

I think M-Garde fits better personally.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 08:01:43 No.28089365 Report

Quoted By: >>28089377

>>28089352
Yeah, and I for sure see why. Just would have been cool to see a mega legendary used for the champion, in my opinion. Sorry if I came off as rude or anything. Like I said, what do I know. I'm not a game designer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 08:03:56 No.28089377 Report

Quoted By: >>28089390

>>28089365
If XY wasn't such a blunder I would have liked to see a Diantha-involved event/post-game where she's investigating a "strange Carbink".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 08:05:13 No.28089390 Report

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>>28089377
That would have been very neat. But, then again, X and Y. I like the games enough, but damn was there a lot of missed potential.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 08:07:48 No.28089414 Report

Quoted By: >>28091798

Gardevoir
Milotic
Sylveon
Blissey
Froslass
Swoobat

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 08:13:40 No.28089476 Report

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>>28088361
Jokes aside, a champion team that actually changed depending on what pokemon you had would be great. Then the champion would always be a challenge

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 08:16:40 No.28089498 Report

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>>28088417
>Pangoro/Heliolisk
>fairly feminine/appealing to women

Literally wat

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 08:17:25 No.28089505 Report

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>>28088439
Also, Iris has only 3 of the 4 available dragons on her team

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 09:26:38 No.28090054 Report

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>>28088101
>half her team is super weak to fairy and steel
i swept her with mawile for this reason, didn't even mega evolve it until fighting gardevior (and only did that so it'd be mega vs mega)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 11:53:30 No.28090957 Report

Quoted By: >>28090971

>>28087845

I think her team is fine as is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 11:55:41 No.28090971 Report

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>>28090957
The fossils are the weak link. Replace them with the version exclusive water catches (Clawitzer and Dragalge) and everything is fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 12:45:38 No.28091355 Report

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>>28087845
>Sylveon
>Meowstic-F
>Aegislash
>Pyroar-F
>Goodra
>Gardevoir Mega

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 12:57:08 No.28091470 Report

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>>28087845
Replace the fossils with Huge Power Azumarill and Quiverdance-Baton Pass Venomoth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 13:30:27 No.28091798 Report

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>>28089414

Okay I admit Sylveon would have probably fit more than Gourgeist. Though Gourgeist gives better type coverage.

maybe drop Goodra?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 13:44:53 No.28091953 Report

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>>28087845
I think they all fit her thematically though. Except for Tyrantrum anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 15:25:23 No.28093228 Report

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Hawlucha, M - Gardevoir, Aurorus, Lapras, Dragonite, Roserade

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