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Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 15:10:25 No.28093004 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>28093020 >>28093024 >>28093059 >>28095304 >>28097060 >>28097650

ITT: We rage over unviable pokemon we wish were viable.

WHO THE FUCK THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO GIVE PERSIAN HIGH SPEED AND FUCKING TERRIBLE OFFENSIVE STATS? I LITERALLY CANT DO SHIT WITH PERSIAN BECAUSE IT DOESNT GET ANY USEFUL PRIORITY MOVES AND ITS FUCKING ABILITIES DONT DO JACK
SHIT DO HELP IT! IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE A FAST POKEMON WITH SHIT ATTACK AT LEAST GIVE IT SOME FUCKING PRIORITY MOVES OR BETTER YET GIVE IT SOME FUCKING ATTACK TO SUPPORT ITS HUGE OFFENSIVE MOVEPOOL!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 15:11:30 No.28093020 Report

Quoted By: >>28093227

>>28093004
But Anon, Persian had his time in the spotlight. He was top tier in Gen I.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 15:11:41 No.28093024 Report

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>>28093004
Nice rant

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 15:12:51 No.28093059 Report

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>>28093004

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 15:13:45 No.28093069 Report

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WE CAN GET A MEGA BEEDRILL BUT NO MEGA BUTTERFREE? FUCK OFF.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 15:20:29 No.28093164 Report

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>needing op stats to be gud
>not having bonds with your pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 15:25:19 No.28093227 Report

Quoted By: >>28093245 >>28093260 >>28093909 >>28096257

>>28093020
No he wasn't. Completely outclassed by most other Normal type Pokemon.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 15:27:06 No.28093243 Report

Quoted By: >>28093772

Fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 15:27:17 No.28093245 Report

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>>28093227
>Forgetting about speed slash crits

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 15:28:06 No.28093260 Report

Quoted By: >>28093283

>>28093227
He was still in the highest (non-banned) tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 15:29:44 No.28093283 Report

Quoted By: >>28093909

>>28093260
No he wasn't.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 15:31:43 No.28093319 Report

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shut up nerds tauros completely outclassed persian the uu cat

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 16:02:54 No.28093772 Report

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>Lets make a defensive pokemon
>Give it mediocre defenses
>Give it shitty HP
>Give it bad offensive stats
>And make it one of the worst type combos possible
Fuck you too GF

>>28093243
One day anon, one day we'll get a mega. Just wait for the sinnoh remakes and he'll get the mawile treatment

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 16:12:10 No.28093909 Report

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>>28093227
>>28093283

Not them but yeah Persian was relatively top tier.

Remember gen 1 was before,

>sp. atk/ sp. def split
>special/physical split
>introduction of steel types
>Bite's type change
>introduction of stat modifying hold items

Without those in play a Persian rocking slash, thunderwave, bite and some special move for coverage like bubblebeam or thunderbolt was good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 17:27:18 No.28095304 Report

Quoted By: >>28095701

>>28093004
Making Typhlosion a literal fucking volcano
Cant learn Earth Power but learns earthquake

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 17:48:37 No.28095701 Report

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>>28095304
:(

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 17:53:56 No.28095799 Report

Quoted By: >>28096151 >>28096354 >>28098037

If it makes you feel better, I was murdered on turn fucking 1 today in the wi-fi tourney by these god damn exploding cats.

Turn 1: Gardivour Helping Hand, defiant Purugly Assist into explosion - my entire front 3 drop while his gengar and gardevour were immune

Turn 2: Gardivour Helping Hand, Persian Assist into explosion - Once again he's immune, and I get decimated

Fucking meme teams

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 18:12:20 No.28096151 Report

Quoted By: >>28096209

>>28095799
I'm iffy on the mechanics of Assist, was it guaranteed to get Explosion somehow?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 18:14:48 No.28096209 Report

Quoted By: >>28096307

>>28096151

Yes, there's a list of moves that assist can't trigger, found here http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Assist_(move) . So basically he set up his Gengar with Destiny Bond, Thief, etc. and his gardivour with helping hand etc. The only move capable of being called by assist for him was explosion. Explained a bit more here http://nuggetbridge.com/forums/topic/15831-how-does-assist-work/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 18:16:41 No.28096257 Report

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>>28093227
it pretty good but tauros, chansey and snorla were better normal types

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 18:18:32 No.28096307 Report

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>>28096209
Ah, so he must have only had those few moves on them, gotcha. I guess Purugly and Persian had Assist as their only move then, and they didn't have any more Pokemon than those four?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 18:21:37 No.28096354 Report

Quoted By: >>28096373 >>28096411

>>28095799
How is Gardevoir immune to Explosion?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 18:22:38 No.28096373 Report

Quoted By: >>28096471

>>28096354
That one otherwise-useless ability that prevents team damage

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 18:24:16 No.28096411 Report

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>>28096354
Telepathy. A partner's attacks like EQ and Explosion don't affect it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 18:26:02 No.28096441 Report

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>>28096307

Ya I think both his purugly and persian were choice scarfed, ensuring they'd go first while maxing att/speed ev's. There's a reason normal type pokemon don't get access to explosion normally, 250 + 125 (stab) + 187 (helping hand) = 562 base power move against my entire damn team, killing anything that doesn't resist normal. He had 6 pokemon, but none of them knew anything outside of that list on bulbedia

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 18:27:12 No.28096471 Report

Quoted By: >>28096566

>>28096373

that ability is amazing in doubles / triples, lets you use EQ / surf etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 18:32:35 No.28096566 Report

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>>28096471
Sorry yeah, I imagine it's great in doubles etc., I'm just more used to Singles where it's worthless. Abilities/moves that only have utility in specific formats always rub me the wrong way.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 18:34:24 No.28096600 Report

Quoted By: >>28096655

Turtonator while cool almost feels like an insult.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 18:37:48 No.28096655 Report

Quoted By: >>28096671

>>28096600
I can't believe how fucking Torkoal it is in Gen VI. I guess I just never paid attention to its stats, but I always assumed it was the same size as Blastoise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 18:38:52 No.28096671 Report

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>>28096655
*how fucking small Torkoal is

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 19:01:32 No.28097060 Report

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>>28093004
>persian
>unviable

What are you talking about? I use him as a fake out lead and it works out quit well. I also switch him in when the other guy uses toxic or burn shit to get that nice, clean STAB facade damage in.

Don't talk shit about my pussy cat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 19:30:13 No.28097650 Report

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>>28093004
I just EV trained my Euro Happy Hour Meowth, it learnt Pay Day and evolved. Now with Amulet Coin and O-Powers I can get rich in minutes. And it has better stats than Smeargle.
Persian will always be relevant now in my cartridges.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Aug 2016 19:49:31 No.28098037 Report

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>>28095799
Wait, why is Gardevoir immune to Explosion?

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