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Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2016 07:45:30 No.28109903 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>28110032 >>28110045 >>28110233

Do you see SM introducing any Mega Fug tier Pokemon?

Zygarde 100% seems feasible as a contender, I think the math played it out with base 226 HP?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2016 07:58:56 No.28109997 Report

Quoted By: >>28110006 >>28110018 >>28110102 >>28110178

zygarde needs to be low hp to get to niggerdaddy form which can easily be countered by just OHKO or two hit KOing him

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2016 08:00:14 No.28110006 Report

Quoted By: >>28110013 >>28110194 >>28110331

>>28109997
Focus Sash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2016 08:01:03 No.28110013 Report

Quoted By: >>28110052

>>28110006
>two hit ko
>entry hazards
>status

even then he's using up an items slot whereas mega fug can get anything he wants

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2016 08:01:39 No.28110018 Report

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>>28109997
It's bulky enough t not die to most hits.

Also Chesto/Lum and rest to get him fresh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2016 08:03:01 No.28110032 Report

Quoted By: >>28110039 >>28110242 >>28110294

>>28109903
If they don't change the way no guard works, choice scarf no guard fissure machamp could be a weapon to surpass mega fug.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2016 08:04:37 No.28110039 Report

Quoted By: >>28110051

>>28110032
>Talonflame used Peck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2016 08:05:15 No.28110045 Report

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>>28109903
Even if they stop making Megas for normal Pokemon, I'm pretty sure they'll keep making them for legendaries and pseudos. Mega Giratina and Kyurem will probably be of similar power

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2016 08:05:28 No.28110048 Report

Quoted By: >>28110087

>Camouflage to get normal type
>Transform to 100% Zygarde
>Kill shit with STAB Espeed
Probably won't be mega fug tier, but it'll be ridiculous and probably have a bunch of good sets

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2016 08:05:46 No.28110051 Report

Quoted By: >>28110061

>>28110039
>Go talonflame
>Machamp used stone edge

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2016 08:06:02 No.28110052 Report

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>>28110013
I had to look up it's stats and boy are they fat. With investent in HP and Defense and SpAt or Atk and give it an Assault Veast, since you want an all out attacker, and it can tank hits good. Plus, all it needs is to be slightly under 50% to transform, like Wishiwashi, so yeah.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2016 08:07:45 No.28110061 Report

Quoted By: >>28110064 >>28110242

>>28110051
>GALE
>WINGS

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2016 08:08:39 No.28110064 Report

Quoted By: >>28110242

>>28110061
Gale wings won't help when you switch in

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2016 08:12:32 No.28110087 Report

Quoted By: >>28110198

>>28110048
Not bad. I was thinking Sub/Glare/Coil/sweep, but that's not a bad idea at all.

Would be interesting to see Camouflage finally get some competitive use.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2016 08:13:42 No.28110102 Report

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>>28109997
Just use Substitute and you get it right away.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2016 08:23:37 No.28110178 Report

Quoted By: >>28110199

>>28109997

Zygarde is a lot bulkier than you think in the first place anon, a lot of ice punch users won't even successfully ohko it. 100% is going to be a monster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2016 08:25:41 No.28110194 Report

Quoted By: >>28110246

>>28110006
Skill Link Icicle Spear

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2016 08:26:14 No.28110198 Report

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>>28110087

Why though? The modifier is the same whether you take the turn to get a STAB boost or a 1.5x attack boost. Only, the former removes your dragon and ground STAB's. You're better off using Coil or Dragon Dance unless you reeeally can't stand dealing with Zygarde's weaknesses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2016 08:26:16 No.28110199 Report

Quoted By: >>28110270 >>28110321

>>28110178
I hope they are kind and make Recover a tutor for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2016 08:30:39 No.28110233 Report

Quoted By: >>28110244 >>28110249

>>28109903
Every game from now on will introduce something "game breaking" along with a Pokémon that tops all else. XY introduced Mega Evolution and a bunch of Pokémon that instantly got banned from being OP. ORAS introduced Primal Reversion AND Mega Fug. SM is introducing Z-Moves and Perfect Zygarde, and I'm sure P-Zygarde will be Mega Fug tier once people get to play with it and make real strategies using it. And Diamond/Pearl remakes will introduce something new that will once again break the game, with Giratina or Arceus being the new "mascot of OP-ness".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2016 08:32:29 No.28110242 Report

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>>28110032
>>28110061
>>28110064
Just use an eviolite, no guard Machoke as well. It , unlike Machamp, survives CB brave bird from talonflame and still OHKOs Talonflame with a 0 attack evs invested stone edge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2016 08:32:38 No.28110244 Report

Quoted By: >>28110258

>>28110233
I vote Arceus. I have a hard time seeing many ways for Giratina to become that overpowered, honestly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2016 08:32:50 No.28110246 Report

Quoted By: >>28110253 >>28110350

>>28110194
Now tell me who's crazy/idiot enough to stay in againts a Cloyster with a 4x weakness to Ice. Doesn't matter what shadow you might cast, Zygarde will be a threat.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2016 08:33:24 No.28110249 Report

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>>28110233
>YFW Zygarde is the creator of Z-Moves
>Arceus will be the creator of A-Moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2016 08:34:26 No.28110253 Report

Quoted By: >>28110281

>>28110246
Could a full health, 100% Zygarde tank that, based on our predictions of its stats? Because if it could, that would be fucking terrifying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2016 08:35:30 No.28110258 Report

Quoted By: >>28110290

>>28110244
Unless they give it Megas where it fuses with the Reversion World and becomes the equivalent of an antimatter black hole, then I can't see Giratina being to broken.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2016 08:37:06 No.28110270 Report

Quoted By:

>>28110199
>its ability when it goes into 100% is to bring it back to 100% HP

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2016 08:38:12 No.28110281 Report

Quoted By:

>>28110253
It's base HP would be at least or over 180. Give it high defense stats and it can survive ANYTHING.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2016 08:39:09 No.28110290 Report

Quoted By: >>28110305

>>28110258
50 points to both Defenses and an ability that makes it immune to all status moves.

150/170/170 bulk

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2016 08:39:25 No.28110294 Report

Quoted By:

>>28110032
>Surpass m-ray
>Can't beat m-ray
Sure thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2016 08:42:07 No.28110305 Report

Quoted By: >>28110327

>>28110290
Helloooo AG.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2016 08:44:17 No.28110321 Report

Quoted By:

>>28110199
I have a prediction, that if Zygarde wrecks enough shit while at 100%, Healing Wish Latias might well make a rise in Ubers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2016 08:46:14 No.28110327 Report

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>>28110305
Only if it can also hold Leftovers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2016 08:46:44 No.28110331 Report

Quoted By: >>28110350

>>28110006
Maybe if this was 2008

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2016 08:48:31 No.28110350 Report

Quoted By:

>>28110331
Refer to >>28110246

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