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Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 04:08:42 No.28187277 View View Reply Original Report

How can we prevent censorship from affecting Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon for the 3DS?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 04:13:37 No.28187378 Report

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Make petitions, get large followings, write letters to the companies in charge, advertise your point, get people to agree with that point, be a leader.

Typically the best way to get something changed the way you want it is to organize it yourself.

But speaking seriously, the game is probably almost done, and theyre releasing in both america and japan at the same time, so the models most likely wont be censored, but the text will be in some places.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 04:14:23 No.28187388 Report

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>>28187277
By shitposting somewhere else

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 04:14:34 No.28187391 Report

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>>28187277
We can't, so kill yourself

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Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 04:15:36 No.28187406 Report

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>>28187277
Treehouse doesn't handle translation for Sun and Moon, that's done by GameFreak themselves IIRC

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 04:16:11 No.28187417 Report

Quoted By: >>28187607 >>28187801 >>28188197

>>28187277
Do you seriously believe that Pokemon, a rated E game with a target audience of children, would have anything in it worth censoring? We had a girl in either X and Y or ORAS who asked us where she kept her Poke Balls because all she wore was a two-piece bikini, if that didn't get censored I'd be amazed to find out what would.

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Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 04:16:22 No.28187421 Report

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>>28187277
Why does /vp/ get the wost crossboarders from all the shit boards

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 04:16:24 No.28187423 Report

Quoted By: >>28190504

>>28187277
>censor ass
>don't censor asscrack

are they doing it ironically or something? the one on the right is much more sexual

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 04:16:41 No.28187430 Report

Quoted By: >>28187452 >>28187455

>>28187277
>muh lolipedo kawaii waifu uguu harem cancer got censoreeeeed
Cry more, man baby. Let me guess, a gamurgator? Disgusting misogynist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 04:17:46 No.28187448 Report

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All Pokémon games are handled by TPC itself. Not only that, but the games themselves are rated A, meaning that absolutely no sexual/violent content is allowed whatsoever. There's nothing to change. It's like trying to make Doraemon kid-friendly, what left is there to do?

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Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 04:17:58 No.28187452 Report

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>>28187430
No, dont do this, people will take this bait seriously

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Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 04:18:05 No.28187455 Report

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>>28187430
You're trying way too hard. Then again, this is /vp/. So maybe someone will actually fall for this, who knows.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 04:19:10 No.28187478 Report

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>>28187277
By playing better games than Fire Emblem. By purchasing the game, Nintendo realized it had to swat you on the wrist, to show you your mistake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 04:19:50 No.28187493 Report

Quoted By: >>28188661

>>28187277
>>>/v/ you degenerate and take your fan translation of Fates with you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 04:19:59 No.28187496 Report

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>>28187277
We can try praying really hard or something.

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Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 04:21:35 No.28187537 Report

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>>28187452
I forgot about this pic.
Saved.

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Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 04:23:14 No.28187573 Report

Quoted By: >>28188343

>>28187277
bribes. lotsa bribes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 04:24:47 No.28187607 Report

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>>28187417
japan != west
content that japan thinks is ok for children could be completly removed in the west.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 04:28:28 No.28187670 Report

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Go back to /v/ faggot

Treehouse doesn't localize Pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 04:30:00 No.28187699 Report

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>>28187277
When I first saw the pic on the right, I thought that was the edge of a cape. Like some guy wearing a cape was watching her and she was looking back at him. The uncensored version seems tame in comparison to me now.

I feel a bit dumb for not realising it was a curtain, but, in my defence, I don't care for Tharja and only quickly looked at the picture.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 04:30:57 No.28187717 Report

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>>28187277
She wearing a thong in usa one?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 04:31:54 No.28187736 Report

Quoted By: >>28187848

>>28187277
We don't because you should be playing pokemon for the GAMEPLAY not f*cking anime breasts. Also what does Pokemon even have to censor?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 04:34:20 No.28187801 Report

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>>28187417
In the west, Canaclave library was censored.

In Japan it mentioned Humans and pokemon used to Marry, while in the West it said they ate at the same table or some shit.

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Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 04:36:15 No.28187848 Report

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>>28187736
>what does Pokemon even have to censor?
you know, stuff.

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Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 04:45:26 No.28188031 Report

Quoted By: >>28188086

>>28187848
>2nd worst girl and complete slut
>Hot
And this is coming from someone who's first real waifu was Dawn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 04:48:33 No.28188086 Report

Quoted By: >>28188128

>>28188031
>calling dawn a complete slut
you are objectively wrong, but even if you ware right that isn't enough to say she isn't hot.

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Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 04:51:19 No.28188128 Report

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>>28188086
Uh anon, I was talking about both Dawn and Cynthia.

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Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 04:53:20 No.28188170 Report

Quoted By: >>28188257

>>28188128
i know. cynthia is the 2nd worst, so dawn was the slut.
and she is still hot.
(and not a slut)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 04:54:46 No.28188197 Report

Quoted By: >>28188938

>>28187417
Pokemon games have had censors for trainer sprites for being "too sexual for kids" before. There isn't much that the Western countries won't find inappropriate nowadays.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 04:58:15 No.28188257 Report

Quoted By: >>28188306

>>28188170
Orther way around mate, she I was talking second worst, I should have said second worst female protagonist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 05:01:08 No.28188306 Report

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>>28188257
>dawn is the 2nd worst!
pfft yeah right. no one in their right mind would think that. so you must have meant
>thinks nothing in pokemon is worth censoring
oh, ok, you ware serious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 05:03:21 No.28188343 Report

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>>28187573
This.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 05:07:58 No.28188404 Report

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>>28187277
We can't, and Pokemon very rarely has censorship, especially these days.

Go complain about other games getting censored to hell and back.

Also, as much as I hate censorship, for all of you saying that Japan has it better, I found this last night which is worth watching:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-GJzgzNPxE
They have other videos which detail censorship in Japan too.

Basically, in Japan, sexual stuff is mostly okay but violence isn't, and it's the other way around in the west, typically. Unless you live in Australia and, by proxy, New Zealand (fuck you, Aussies, for screwing us over time and again) where they just ban everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 05:12:46 No.28188469 Report

Quoted By: >>28189116 >>28189156

>>28188404
>in japan they ban gore
im fine with that actually

than again
http://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ140678

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 05:14:36 No.28188496 Report

Quoted By: >>28188575

>>28187421
Because everyone loves Pokemon!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 05:16:45 No.28188537 Report

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>>28187277
buy the japanese version

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 05:18:20 No.28188565 Report

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>>28187277
it's already made for children, anon. pokemon won't need censorship because nothing in it will require it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 05:18:47 No.28188575 Report

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>>28188496
A sad, sad fact

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 05:24:41 No.28188661 Report

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>>28187493
>forever unfinished
(lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 05:27:59 No.28188717 Report

Quoted By: >>28188768 >>28189024 >>28189791

>ITT: Denialfags who think that they won't censor anything because "it's already a kid's game abuubububuuu".

Guys, XY literally was about a psychopat who was trying to make a GENOCIDE and kill almost all the people and Pokémon in the world, who DIED in the end.There are even cutscenes and bits of dialogue cut from the japanese version (like the scene after the activation of the Ultimate Weapon where Lysandre's hand moven between the rubbles or the "Shit!" spoken by one of the Team Flare girls).

SM must probably have more scenes with people DYING or hard language and probably even rape scenes.

Pokémon is getting darker and more mature, so the censorship must be harder with them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 05:30:55 No.28188768 Report

Quoted By: >>28188834 >>28189105

>>28188717
>There will be rape in SM
what makes you think that?

Also, i can't wait for /vp/ to become a red board.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 05:35:13 No.28188834 Report

Quoted By: >>28188881

>>28188768
Because they are the less "professional" evil organization. They look and act more like the black people of every city; stealing money, killing people, raping women, wearing golden neckalace, rings, sunglasses, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 05:38:05 No.28188881 Report

Quoted By: >>28188906

>>28188834
rocket was more a mafia than some grand world level villians and they didn't kill anyone

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 05:39:57 No.28188906 Report

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>>28188881
They killed people but behind scenes. Back then, Pokémon was a Pegi 7 game. Nowadays it's almost Pegi 12.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 05:41:39 No.28188938 Report

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>>28188197
Besides the smoking Gen 2 fishermen what else has been censored?

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Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 05:41:44 No.28188940 Report

Quoted By: >>28189005 >>28189488

I don't understand why there are always three different kinds of wrong people in these threads. It doesn't all seem like pretending to be retarded either.

Gambling was taken out of the game for Europeans as early as D/P. Japan was fine with gambling up until HG/SS, they still had slot machines. We had voltorb flip. Then in ORAS we had Mauville completely taken out, probably because they couldn't make a satisfactory compromise between giving every region the same content and censoring only Europe, while occasionally having America get hit with the backlash.

There's tons of "localization changes" that avoid any kind of sensitive material. Religious symbols(even the most tame of them, like spiritual beads), any references to drinking, and several instances of smoking all have been removed from the games since Gen 1. Even back in Gen 5 we had Lerona have to change her outfit because she might not sit well with people thinking she's racist.

Have none of you really heard of shit like the Jynx controversy? Censored TCG art? 4kids in general?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 05:43:27 No.28188977 Report

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We shouldn't be worried about censorship as much as we should worry about how gamefreak will plug this game up with terrible, old dead memes. It will happen, watch it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 05:44:56 No.28189005 Report

Quoted By: >>28189083

>>28188940
Nobody likes Jynx, TGC is a fucking joke at this point, and 4kids no longer owns the right to the pokemon anime. Dead argument.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 05:45:58 No.28189024 Report

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>>28188717

I got curious and looked it up. I found nothing of what you stated.

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Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 05:49:33 No.28189083 Report

Quoted By: >>28189119 >>28189153

>>28188938
Pic related was the first example I could think of to google images for.

>>28189005
You too, for something entirely unrelated to Jynx, TCG, and the anime. Even despite any of that (most of it being shitty opinions), we no longer have the potential to get another game corner because of this shit. None of that even invalidates the argument that "there's nothing to censor!", because clearly if things have been censored, there are clearly things in the series that have potential to be censored.

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Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 05:50:48 No.28189105 Report

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>>28188768
Do you really think she'll make it out unscathed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 05:51:31 No.28189116 Report

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>>28188469
As am I, but the point is that they censor things pretty badly there too. It's just different things that get censored. They DO censor lots of boobs and such though, which is surprising when you think about what we get censored. Again though, it's censored in a different way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 05:51:37 No.28189119 Report

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>>28189083
>removing the sexy wink
Now I'm mad

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 05:53:38 No.28189153 Report

Quoted By: >>28189219

>>28189083
OK! But who cares? Why do you care? It's not taking away from the gameplay, it's not dumbing down anything. I don't see what there is to get upset over.

You're going to call me a censorship apologist for this aren't you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 05:53:48 No.28189156 Report

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>>28188469
I should mention that PC games are exempt, same as with Steam and, I assume, Origin and similar services. They don't have be rated by CERO/ESRB/PEGI, etc. for some reason, but console games do. That's why you see, for example, VNs getting ported to consoles removing the sex scenes, when they're perfectly fine on PC.

They still have to pixilate genitals regardless of the platform because of the law in Japan though. Thanks, America, for introducing those bullshit archaic rules to them which Japan never got rid of.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 05:53:54 No.28189158 Report

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>>28187277

How does a private business "censor" anything, exactly? They can do whatever they want, whatever they think is best for their business in the country in which they're operating.

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Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 05:57:56 No.28189219 Report

Quoted By: >>28189288 >>28193029

>>28189153
>OK! But who cares? Why do you care? It's not taking away from the gameplay
This is literally taking away from gameplay. Why are you being so contrarian about it? Why are you putting words in my mouth and trying to make me attack you? Why can I not just be upset that there are things in Pokemon meant to be in the franchise, and then I can't experience them because I happen to buy my games in a European region or can't watch the show in Japanese?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 06:03:18 No.28189288 Report

Quoted By: >>28189468

>>28189219
Ok, you make one solid point, I do miss my game corners...BUT I've run into people who will go apeshit over the mention of censorship. I had an argument with someone about Juri's costume in SFV and they just called me a censorship apologist. I'm not being contrarian, don't call me /vp/'s buzzwords when I'm sticking to why supposed censorship isn't the worst thing in the world. And you have several websites you can watch the anime in Japanese in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 06:16:00 No.28189468 Report

Quoted By: >>28189556

>>28189288
>BUT I've run into people who will go apeshit over the mention of censorship.
Alright, but that's not here? I'm trying to make a rational plea here that the people spouting "there's nothing to censor!" aren't in the right despite being in the majority.

>I'm not being contrarian, don't call me /vp/'s buzzwords when I'm sticking to why supposed censorship isn't the worst thing in the world.
You're arguing against an entirely different post or argument then. I never said it was the worst thing in the world. I didn't bring up things like the nazi symbolism being censored in Registeel's sprite and TCG art. I can rationalize necessary censorship like that because it creates nothing but problems and no benefits being left in. I'm saying it shouldn't just be ignored because it actually does affect things. Half the reason a ton of people still even care or collect the TCG anymore is the artwork. If Magmortar was my favorite Pokemon and it got that cool-ass artwork in this set, then I buy the card online in English and it's this shitty new artwork, I'd be pretty upset even if I don't play the TCG at all. That's directly impeding on my enjoyment for absolutely no goddamned reason besides "well it kinda looks like he's pointing a gun at you" when his arms are fucking cannons. It's that type of unnecessary censorship that people should be aware of and have all the reason to speak out against.
And sure, I'll use /v/'s slippery slope fallacy here. Because I don't want that to happen, and then when something I enjoy gets censored, I don't want people to just say "lol this shit's been going on forever, deal with it" because people didn't give a fuck when it was Lerona's art or Magmortar's art or Jynx or Porygon being banned from showing up in the show, so why should I be allowed to care now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 06:17:29 No.28189488 Report

Quoted By: >>28189516 >>28189618 >>28189708

>>28188940
Those are completely different cards. They don't even have the same expansion symbol. Then you get on your high horse about how intelligent you are? kys, beeyotch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 06:19:32 No.28189516 Report

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>>28189488
>Beeyotch
you first nigger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 06:22:01 No.28189556 Report

Quoted By: >>28189618

>>28189468
Alright, my argument holds no water.
Guess you win.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 06:26:00 No.28189618 Report

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>>28189488
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Magmortar_(Dragons_Exalted_21)
Alright thanks for being wrong from a single google search (you could even see the health, energy costs, and damage all lined up as the exact same)

>Then you get on your high horse about how intelligent you are?
And thanks for putting words in my mouth. I don't need to pretend to be smart to say "everyone knows about the whole jynx controversy how are there people saying pokemon can't get censored?" What are you trying to prove?

>>28189556
To be fair "Nobody likes Jynx, TGC is a fucking joke at this point, and 4kids no longer owns the right to the pokemon anime." were not very solid grounds to start the argument on, but I appreciate the conversation at least. Censorship threads get stupid and out of control sometimes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 06:33:21 No.28189708 Report

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>>28189488
Actually, while I just laugh at these idiots who don't understand censorship, it is worth pointing out that these are the same card. 120 HP, 1 Fire attack for 40, 1 Fire 2 Colorless for 90, plus the first attack is called "Fire Screen" and in Japanese is "Flame Barrier" and the second attack is Flamethrower in English and Japanese (at least, the Japanese name for the in-game move Flamethrower)

So, while this ISN'T CENSORSHIP, these are the same card, with different art.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 06:34:39 No.28189720 Report

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>>28187277
You cant

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 06:39:58 No.28189791 Report

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>>28188717
Oh wait, this is you making fun of people who believed this.

Very well done because I was teetering on replying seriously for quite a while

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Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 06:41:37 No.28189808 Report

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>>28187277
what the fuck is there to censor in a pokemon game, it's already directed at baby children.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 06:45:14 No.28189855 Report

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Censorship =/= Localisation

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 07:25:55 No.28190329 Report

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>Censor

Take this shitty meme back to >>>/v/

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 07:46:04 No.28190504 Report

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>>28187423
this tbqh

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 07:51:43 No.28190569 Report

Quoted By:

>>28187277
>STILL being mad about not having your facerubbing minigame

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 11:27:10 No.28193029 Report

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>>28189219
in oras the game corner was removed from all regions. but yeah they took it out in heart gold and soul silver, which is why I will never buy english versions.

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Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 11:29:08 No.28193049 Report

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>>28187277
>buy Japanese version
>play in English

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 11:50:04 No.28193256 Report

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These games are for kids, you autist

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 13:11:23 No.28194358 Report

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Kill everyone involved in PEGI and ESRP.

Lobby to destroy any kind of video game rating, so that game marketers will stop thinking for a god damn second that parents care about the rating they buy to their kids and will try to lower is as low as possible to "reich every11 xDDDD"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 13:12:46 No.28194385 Report

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I literally don't care about this kind of "censorship". It means nothing.

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Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 13:13:12 No.28194392 Report

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>>28187277
Why would you need censorship in a game without and explicit content?

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Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 13:13:52 No.28194402 Report

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>>28187277
It really hasn't and pic related is proof, literally wearing booty shorts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 13:14:02 No.28194404 Report

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>>28187277
Buy the Japanese version

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Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 13:14:45 No.28194420 Report

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>>28187537
>Beast Wars reaction images
aww yeah

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 13:15:40 No.28194438 Report

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People in the west actually have sex with real people I can see why they wouldn't be interested in cartoon sex parts

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2016 13:17:36 No.28194487 Report

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>>28187277
>Censorship
>in a Pokemon game

Considering that they stopped including game corners even in the Japanese releases, and they have never included anything really worth censoring in all the gens so far, I really have no idea what the fuck you are expecting.

There will be no suggestive or overly skimpy outfits, and nothing else is worth the censorship.

In short, you are arguing that they do nothing, which is precisely what they have already done. Idiot.

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