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Anonymous Fri 02 Sep 2016 09:17:43 No.28215529 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>28215552 >>28215567 >>28215584 >>28216659 >>28218806 >>28219284 >>28219731 >>28220539

>rattata only x2 weakness to fighting
>meanwhile at nintendo HQ: "Hory shit,itsu tuu powarfur,we must nerf it!"
>"Res giv him darku taypu for nerf w/ aroran forms"

Holy fucking shit,was it really necessary? There's shit-tons of fucking pokemons thats need an evo/mega/z-move or whatever the fuck you want to bring it to actual good meta(i.e. carnivine) ,yet nigghendo still making shit like aroran rattata.

>kys

I have npthing else to say,besides that im not gonna buy this game,but i will probably trash 60eur on fucking steam for this christmas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Sep 2016 09:21:01 No.28215552 Report

Quoted By: >>28215556 >>28215593

>>28215529
It's a damn shitmon. Who the hell cares?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Sep 2016 09:21:27 No.28215556 Report

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>>28215552

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Sep 2016 09:22:38 No.28215567 Report

Quoted By: >>28215684

>>28215529
A lot of alolan forms have 4x weakness. It has to be intentional by now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Sep 2016 09:25:25 No.28215584 Report

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>>28215529
You don't understand, there needs to be more pokemon weak to fairy. How will thy market their new favorite type other than making everything and their mom weak to it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Sep 2016 09:26:40 No.28215593 Report

Quoted By: >>28218710 >>28219192

>>28215552

I do. Normal Raticate is pretty decent for it's tier.

Plus on normal gameplay,it's always fun to have on your team pokemon that nobody uses,just like rattata or poochyena for makin another example

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Sep 2016 09:38:56 No.28215684 Report

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>>28215567

What if 4x weaknesses get nerfed and stead become 3x or 2.5 weaknesses? How would the game change?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 02 Sep 2016 12:01:03 No.28216599 Report

Quoted By: >>28216612

HEY, fun fact, when GF creates a Pokemon, its typing isn't for competitive viability, but for a bit of flavor and personality for fuck sake.

A Dark/Normal type (a type combo we haven't seen before) is infinitely more interesting than the 20th pure dark type.

It'll find a niche for itself in competitive play, like literally everything else. Stop bitching.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Sep 2016 12:02:09 No.28216612 Report

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>>28216599
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Well said anon

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Anonymous Fri 02 Sep 2016 12:03:38 No.28216627 Report

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Hey guys!
>mach punch!
AM I FUNNY YET????

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Sep 2016 12:06:34 No.28216659 Report

Quoted By: >>28218529

>>28215529
Because Raticate could totally tank all of those fighting moves as a normal type, right OP?

Damn, remember the good old days when Raticate was tanking close combats, focus blasts, and cross chops like a champ?

Damn that thing was a defensive behemoth. But it's completely ruined now.

You're a fucking retard. Raticate can't take a hit no matter what and it's better now that it can get a free switch into a ghost type and KO with STAB crunch.

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Anonymous Fri 02 Sep 2016 12:09:41 No.28216717 Report

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Except Dark is a fine offensive type and it doesn't really affect Normal defensively.
I suppose Ferrothorn is bottom-of-the-barrel PU because it's so hard weak to Fire.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Sep 2016 12:20:17 No.28216814 Report

Quoted By: >>28217539

Scizor, Weavile, Heatran, Gliscor, Landorus, Rayquaza, Ferrothorn, Swampert, Tyranitar, Magnezone, Charizard, Volcarona, Talonflame, Garchomp, Breloom, Hoopa Unbound, Celebi, Dragonite, Salamence. All have a four times weakness all are still good despite this

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Sep 2016 13:44:22 No.28217539 Report

Quoted By: >>28218733

>>28216814

>mentioning fuglord and garbage uber shit

get the fuck outta here

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Sep 2016 15:10:19 No.28218529 Report

Quoted By: >>28218686

>>28216659
How could Raticate not switch into ghost before?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Sep 2016 15:22:47 No.28218686 Report

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>>28218529
It can switch on on psychics now too and ko with sucker punch on the focus blast

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Sep 2016 15:24:34 No.28218710 Report

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>>28215593
You mean the tier where shitmon reside? Besides, more attacking versatility is easily worth the trade off of 4x weakness. Not like it'd survive a Fighting move even if it was 2x weak, so why the fuck does it matter?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Sep 2016 15:26:14 No.28218733 Report

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>>28217539
The point still stands these garbage ubers shit all have 4 times weaknesses

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Anonymous Fri 02 Sep 2016 15:31:04 No.28218806 Report

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>>28215529
>pokemon that already got OHKOd by fighting moves will continue to do so

Wow what an excessive nerf thanks a lot Gamefreak now I have to keep not using Raticate against Fighting types. As if he wasn't bad enough already.

The added STAB, immunity, expanded movepool and redistributed stats are fucking worthless because it still can't handle Fighting moves.

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Anonymous Fri 02 Sep 2016 15:52:58 No.28219122 Report

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>Nintendo creates Pokemon

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Anonymous Fri 02 Sep 2016 15:57:08 No.28219192 Report

Quoted By: >>28219446 >>28219624 >>28220471

>>28215593
>pretty good for its tier
anon...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Sep 2016 16:01:20 No.28219284 Report

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>>28215529
The best team in Pokemon is clearly 6 Eelektross. Since it has no weakness it's super OP, amirite? Scizor and Weavile? Get that shit out of here, 4x weakness means it's totally irredeemable garbage.

>P.S. wtf is mold breaker

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Sep 2016 16:06:15 No.28219349 Report

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Usually when a Pokemon is at a type disadvantage you switch out, thats a thing that happens op.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Sep 2016 16:12:06 No.28219446 Report

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>>28219192
lol

I don't even know why people give a shit. It already died to any good fighting attack anyway and I presume they won't be enough to make a Pokemon whose ability is Hustle a defensive pokemon so it doesn't need less weaknesses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Sep 2016 16:21:28 No.28219579 Report

Quoted By: >>28219677

What most anons said so far is true and a fact. Raticate couldn't take Fighting attacks for shit back then, so adding a typing that gives him 4x weakness to it won't change a thing. Dark type will give him a nice STAB on stuff like Sucker Punch and Pursuit, if he gets those. Also, having one or two 4x weaknesses doesn't make a Pokemon trash, necessarily. But of course, you will have to be more careful with it and pack something that can deal with whatever walls it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Sep 2016 16:24:17 No.28219624 Report

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>>28219192
>Not realizing that it's in fucking alphabetical order

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Sep 2016 16:27:46 No.28219677 Report

Quoted By: >>28219689 >>28219748

>>28219579
The only things that wall Normal/Dark are Lucario, Mawile, Terrakion and Diancie.

It will certainly learn all of Raticate's Dark moves. The only thing it's missing is Knock Off which it might get.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Sep 2016 16:28:48 No.28219689 Report

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>>28219677
Oh and Cobalion

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Sep 2016 16:32:38 No.28219731 Report

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>>28215529
Raticate already died to the weakest Fighting move due to paper thin defenses. Now it gets STAB on s punch and crunch

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Sep 2016 16:32:42 No.28219734 Report

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Not everything is done for Smogon you retarded shitlord. Hustle-boosted STAB Bite is very useful for in-game cart play, along with STAB Pursuit and TWO STAB priority moves in Quick Attack and Sucker Punch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Sep 2016 16:32:45 No.28219735 Report

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Normal/Dark is actually incredibly neutral stab.

Raticate always died to any fighting moves. A hidden power fighting from a scizor actually cleanly guaranteed 1hkos a normal raticate. Raticate would never survive any fighting ever no matter what.

The added dark type gives him resistances and a neat unique typing with good neutral stab.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Sep 2016 16:33:36 No.28219748 Report

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>>28219677
And add in a good fighting move and that list goes down to two.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Sep 2016 17:15:57 No.28220471 Report

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>>28219192
>alphabetical order

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Sep 2016 17:19:42 No.28220539 Report

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>>28215529
Alolan Rattata being x4 weak to fighting doesn't mean shit, it was going to die to any fighting type move anyways. At least with being a dark type now, it can get STAB on knock off and sucker punch.

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