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Anonymous Mon 05 Sep 2016 13:28:28 No.28275125 View View Reply Original Report

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the protagonist stands on top of Snorlax during the animation lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Sep 2016 14:09:50 No.28275520 Report

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So cool. Hopefully we will get another Z-moves with trainer-Pokemon interaction (Ash-Greninja?)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Sep 2016 14:26:46 No.28275719 Report

Quoted By: >>28275734 >>28275775 >>28276656 >>28276728 >>28276842

I really hope megas arent retconned for Z moves. Its such a fucking stupid gimmick that will get obviously get boring after the third use

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Sep 2016 14:27:32 No.28275734 Report

Quoted By: >>28275790

>>28275719
>Its such a fucking stupid gimmick
Literally Megas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Sep 2016 14:30:14 No.28275775 Report

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>>28275719
>will get obviously get boring after the third use

megas got boring after the 1st use so it's fine

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Sep 2016 14:31:30 No.28275790 Report

Quoted By: >>28275941 >>28275958 >>28275963 >>28276746 >>28276804

>>28275734
Megas are useful though. Z Moves will see no usage in CP

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Sep 2016 14:41:38 No.28275941 Report

Quoted By: >>28275963 >>28276680

>>28275790
This. Mega on a team could make or break a game, z moves might knock out an annoying wall assuming you have the correct type. Its basically a free spot for an elemental hyper beam but worse

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Anonymous Mon 05 Sep 2016 14:43:17 No.28275958 Report

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>>28275790
>cp
M-MODS

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Sep 2016 14:43:23 No.28275963 Report

Quoted By: >>28277949

>>28275941
>>28275790
Megas ruined this game for me

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Sep 2016 15:45:38 No.28276656 Report

Quoted By: >>28281749

>>28275719
then don't use it? lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Sep 2016 15:47:52 No.28276680 Report

Quoted By: >>28276715 >>28276752

>>28275941
>The fire type you switched in to break Ferrothorn gets fucking annihilated by ferro's Rock Z-move on the prediction
>Not making or breaking the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Sep 2016 15:50:48 No.28276715 Report

Quoted By: >>28276725 >>28279344

>>28276680
>If you're smart use a different type mon
>Hold it a fire type Z-crystal
>Use a fire Z-move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Sep 2016 15:51:53 No.28276725 Report

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>>28276715
There, see? They're already reshaping the meta.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Sep 2016 15:52:03 No.28276728 Report

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>>28275719
This.
Megas add interesting elements and design where Z moves is just fucking DBZ

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Sep 2016 15:53:30 No.28276746 Report

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>>28275790
>Talonflame is just another route 1 shitbird lol 50% damage to pebbles it'll be nothing but box trash - /vp/'s expert competitive children's game analysts pre-XY

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Sep 2016 15:53:57 No.28276752 Report

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>>28276680
>Teaching Ferro a Rock move.
And what are you replacing? Protect? Leech Seed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Sep 2016 15:59:14 No.28276804 Report

Quoted By: >>28277559 >>28278245

>>28275790
People said the same shit about megas. Smogon forums claimed that giving up the item slot could never justify the form change, and that's after we knew the abilities and rough stat changes for most things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Sep 2016 16:02:48 No.28276842 Report

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>>28275719
Don't boring-ass antifun drones like you play with the attack animations off anyway?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Sep 2016 16:14:08 No.28276977 Report

Quoted By: >>28277289

>>28276752
.... Stealth Rock, friend. Stealth Rock. It's rock type, unless I've caught a case of the being fucking brain damaged.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Sep 2016 16:26:57 No.28277171 Report

Quoted By: >>28281853

ITT: people act like they know everything about something they have no idea about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Sep 2016 16:35:06 No.28277289 Report

Quoted By: >>28277322 >>28277336

>>28276977
I doubt it's gonna work on status moves. How would the game know what stat to use for calculating damage?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Sep 2016 16:36:48 No.28277322 Report

Quoted By: >>28277378

>>28277289
You're making a lot of assumptions right now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Sep 2016 16:37:40 No.28277336 Report

Quoted By: >>28277509

>>28277289
How would it know if you have a move of each stat?
The answer is "we don't have a fucking clue how any of this works so maybe we should wait for more info before launching ourselves to the most distant conclusions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Sep 2016 16:40:28 No.28277378 Report

Quoted By: >>28279406

>>28277322
I fail to see any alternative. Unless they go full retard and make Z moves phy/spe fixed, that's the only way to make shit work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Sep 2016 16:49:51 No.28277509 Report

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>>28277336
>How would it know if you have a move of each stat?
The item description for Z crystals implies you have to select one of your moves (which then gets turned into the Z equivalent) to use a Z move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Sep 2016 16:52:41 No.28277559 Report

Quoted By: >>28277667 >>28277747

>>28276804
But you can only use one Z move per battle. You have to give up an item slot for a one time move. After the attack, you have a normal pokemon without an item.
I can't think of a scenario where a z move would be useful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Sep 2016 16:59:15 No.28277667 Report

Quoted By: >>28277703

>>28277559
6vs6 singles format barely exists in GF's mind. Z moves will be plenty useful in faster metagames.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Sep 2016 17:02:04 No.28277703 Report

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>>28277667
I hope so.
But i don't see Z moves being relevant. Maybe a few on select pokemon but i don't think they will affect the meta like megas did.
I wouldn't mind being wrong on this. I'm definitely going to use Z moves in online battles just for style and fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Sep 2016 17:04:53 No.28277747 Report

Quoted By: >>28277789

>>28277559
what are the gem items

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Sep 2016 17:07:35 No.28277789 Report

Quoted By: >>28277801

>>28277747
Never used outside of fake out or acrobatics users

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Sep 2016 17:08:37 No.28277801 Report

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>>28277789
And i dont think acrobatics works with z crystals

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Sep 2016 17:18:23 No.28277949 Report

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>>28275963
why

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Sep 2016 17:35:15 No.28278245 Report

Quoted By: >>28278564

>>28276804

"Smogon forums" as a whole never claimed that. It's not a hivemind. *Some* people on Smogon raised the *suggestion* that for *some* megas, item loss was not justified.

In *some* cases they were arguably correct and in some cases they weren't.

Try not to deal in absolutes so much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Sep 2016 17:54:34 No.28278564 Report

Quoted By: >>28278766 >>28279683

>>28278245
How new are you? A community is a single construct. The majority speak for the whole community. And if the majority is retarded, then the community is retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Sep 2016 18:05:18 No.28278766 Report

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>>28278564
Guess I owe you a "fuck off retard" then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Sep 2016 18:19:17 No.28278982 Report

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>Spinda Z-Move
>character dizzies around in sync with it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Sep 2016 18:39:47 No.28279344 Report

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>>28276715
only if it already has a fire move

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Sep 2016 18:43:12 No.28279406 Report

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>>28277378
i think it would not be very consistent for z-moves to have the attack type of the used attack. if the z-move only depends on the z-crystal i think they will assign a type for each z-move. so maybe if there are mutliple z-moves for one type some are physical and some are special.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Sep 2016 18:57:53 No.28279683 Report

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>>28278564

What's retarded is the logic you're employing here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Sep 2016 20:42:22 No.28281749 Report

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>>28276656
You're an idiot

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Sep 2016 20:46:17 No.28281853 Report

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>>28277171
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