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Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2016 00:18:03 No.28371062 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>28371504 >>28372490 >>28372813 >>28373585 >>28374176 >>28374187 >>28374514 >>28375275

>Ice now resists Ground and Water
>No longer weak to rock
>Hail now boosts the Def. of Ice type Pokemon by 50%
>Freeze-Dry now has 80 Power and is much more widespread, only Ice types can learn it though.
>2 New abilities, one that doubles speed in hail and another that boosts attack during hail (Like Sand Rush and Sand Force)

Did i fix them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2016 00:44:36 No.28371504 Report

Quoted By: >>28371598

>>28371062
Yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2016 00:49:44 No.28371598 Report

Quoted By: >>28371673

>>28371504
Cool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2016 00:53:49 No.28371673 Report

Quoted By: >>28374514

>>28371598
In fact I think this would be OP. Fuck, avalugg in hail would be a monster. But also Mega Abom should get an ability like Primordial Rain or Desolate Land.
Maybe Endless Tundra?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2016 01:43:13 No.28372490 Report

Quoted By: >>28372797

>>28371062

Ice would be pretty much completely fixed as a type with these changes/additions, I think.

And none of them, save maybe the addition of those abilities, will ever happen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2016 02:00:37 No.28372797 Report

Quoted By: >>28373029

>>28372490
Not till we move on to a new console gen locking the old games out

denialfagg

denialfagg Fri 09 Sep 2016 02:01:51 No.28372813 Report

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>>28371062
You. I like you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2016 02:03:23 No.28372844 Report

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Maybe keep the rock weakness but make it resist normal as well, but otherwise yes, you fixed it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2016 02:13:50 No.28373029 Report

Quoted By: >>28373346

>>28372797
I don't think they'll ever lock the old games out, especially with PokeBank. People were upset last time there was a gen lockout, now if they locked out gens when the Bank exists people would be furious, especially since it involves money.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2016 02:32:50 No.28373346 Report

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>>28373029
I mean in terms of locked out of battling. Pokemon should always be able to be moved forward in some way or another. But specifically a battle lockout much how like it was from BW to XY when Fairy was introduced and it changed the battle same from RBY to GSC with Dark and steel type introductiion

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2016 02:33:44 No.28373362 Report

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Resist Water, Ground, and Flying. Stay weak to rock. Remove Stealth Rock from game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2016 02:48:46 No.28373585 Report

Quoted By: >>28373812

>>28371062
Instead of these:
>Pokemon that should not be able to shoot out a beam of ice can no longer learn Ice Beam
>Hail now halves the power of Steel, Fire, Fighting and Rock attacks against Ice types

There, fixed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2016 03:03:36 No.28373812 Report

Quoted By: >>28374391

>>28373585
>Make water types not able to use ice beam from gen 7 forward
>Indirectly nerfing Gen 7 water types
>While all the other water types unaffected because you can transfer them from gen 6, making them legal.
Unless they put a system in place that would block anyone from transferring a Pokemon with ice beam, it wouldn't work. It's better to work with what you have.

also:
>>Hail now halves the power of Steel, Fire, Fighting and Rock attacks against Ice types
You can't be serious

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2016 03:27:52 No.28374176 Report

Quoted By: >>28374362

>>28371062
One more thing:
>hurricane has 100 Acc in Hail

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2016 03:29:06 No.28374187 Report

Quoted By: >>28374520

>>28371062
>>No longer weak to rock
No. Being weak to rock makes sense. Heavy rock crushes ice

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2016 03:37:05 No.28374297 Report

Quoted By: >>28374520

These resistances make no sense.

If I were to remove some ice weakness, it'd be steel. It's the only questionable weakness ice has, all the others make perfect sense if you think about it.

To be fair, there isn't really anything ice could resist and make sense. I'd say GF was actually merciful for not having ice be weak against water.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2016 03:42:13 No.28374362 Report

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>>28374176
It's called a blizzard son

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2016 03:43:56 No.28374391 Report

Quoted By: >>28374419 >>28374477

>>28373812
Here's how you fix it:
>Nerf Ice Beam into unusablity, 65 BP 90 ACC
>Create a new move exactly like the old Ice Beam, except with a new name and only learnable by ice types

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2016 03:45:24 No.28374419 Report

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>>28374391
That sounds awesome

t. not garchomp

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2016 03:48:16 No.28374477 Report

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>>28374391
This. Ice is the best offensive type in the game, but since pretty much all water pokémon get the top ice moves, along with a lot of other pokémon as well, it isn't worth it have the shitty defensive type just for stab.

This is indeed the best that can be done to fix the ice type.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2016 03:51:09 No.28374514 Report

Quoted By: >>28374812

>>28371062
>>28371673
>252 Atk Adaptability Mega Lucario Close Combat vs. +1 248 HP / 8 Def Avalugg: 224-264 (56.9 - 67.1%)
>252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Charizard X Flare Blitz vs. +1 248 HP / 8 Def Avalugg: 200-236 (50.8 - 60%)
>+1 252+ Atk Aerilate Mega Salamence Double-Edge vs. +1 248 HP / 8 Def Avalugg: 177-208 (45 - 52.9%)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2016 03:51:31 No.28374520 Report

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>>28374297
Water makes sense because, unless you wanna get into scientific terms, ice is pretty much frozen water, so if water is weak against water, then it makes sense for water to be weak against ice too.
As for the ground resistance, it has to do with how the ground interact with ice or some shit, some other anon in another thread explained better than I do.

>>28374187
The rock weakness cripple many defensive ice types because of stealth rocks, removing Fire, Steel or Fighting wouldn't help as much.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2016 04:13:36 No.28374812 Report

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>>28374514

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2016 04:51:18 No.28375275 Report

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>>28371062
Instead of nerfing Rock offensively (as it's defensively an awful type, so offense is all it has going for it), why not give Ice a resist to Flying. Cuts back on birdspam from shit like Talonflame. Okay changes otherwise, not sure about the resist to Water.

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