>>28487803>what fucking talonflame does NOT run will-o?There's an obscure bunch that runs swords dance/bulk up/u-turn, flare blitz, brave bird and roost.
But they're not the ones I was talking about tho. To all practical effects, what this nigga says is true
>>28487874; will-o doesn't matter shit unless it is on a switch against a doggo with prio rocks. Specially if stealth rock is on. I would assume even a burned doggo could still OHKO talonflame at 50% HP, unless its Atk is really shit.
>>28487797I'm starting to think that if doggo really is OU material if only for its ability to completely counter talonflame, rotom-wash might start to become even more dominant, if that's possible. No rock weakness, great bulk, will-o, hydro pump, momentum, and who knows, maybe it is even faster than doggo, but I hope not.
