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Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 02:43:08 No.28531791 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>28532111 >>28532124 >>28532230 >>28532336 >>28532552 >>28532813 >>28532926 >>28532935 >>28533009 >>28533051 >>28533245

How the fuck do idiots like this end up smogon staff?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 02:58:38 No.28532072 Report

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>I believe any competitive game should have a hard answer to every move

Isn't that Protect?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 03:00:33 No.28532111 Report

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>>28531791
>How the fuck do idiots like this end up smogon staff?
Same way directors ended up directing Ash VS Alain

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 03:01:24 No.28532124 Report

Quoted By: >>28532970

>>28531791

How the fuck are people willing to invest so much time to waste on something such as a made up community with a dumb made up set of rules.
Idiots are mods because the entire smogon thing is a dumb waste of time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 03:06:31 No.28532230 Report

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>>28531791
>I've been playing for doubles for years and I find Follow me very tedious, don't want to deal with it , we should just ban it right?
Heh, pretty ironic considering there are more meta "unhealthy" moves than follow me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 03:06:31 No.28532231 Report

Quoted By: >>28532932

Why don't they make a game mode in the simulator where instead of banning things, they change them to work in a way they deem acceptable for a healthy competitive environment?

Hell they could have a game mode with only 100 accuracy 90 base power moves and pokemon with no abilities as to only reward high skill in predictions of what your opponent will do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 03:11:16 No.28532336 Report

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>>28531791
>WAAAAAH I CAN'T PLAY AROUND FOLLOW ME WHY CAN'T WE BAN IT
I've learned that the best way to overcome cancer is to become it. I bet his tune would change if he tried using a Follow Me team.

Alternatively he could just use spread moves to counter it like a normal player

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 03:17:05 No.28532468 Report

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>Megamom is healthy
>Landorus is healthy
>Scald is healthy
>Follow me can be counted by just hitting it before or taunt. Unhealthy

K

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 03:21:19 No.28532552 Report

Quoted By: >>28532782 >>28532906 >>28533162

>>28531791
Smogon is trying to ban everything until the meta (and every meta) is as good as Gen4 meta pre-Platinum.

It is a noble effort, but an impossible one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 03:30:52 No.28532782 Report

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>>28532552
>tfw we will never have the simple but pretty deep gen 4 meta ever again

it hurts

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 03:32:31 No.28532813 Report

Quoted By: >>28533092

>>28531791
What a fucking retard. Follow Me is far from the most wonky thing in doubles, and AzuRai is perfectly fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 03:37:36 No.28532906 Report

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>>28532552
DP Wifi was so much fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 03:38:39 No.28532926 Report

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>>28531791
There's a perfectly real "answer" to Follow Me known as Sky Drop.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 03:38:53 No.28532932 Report

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>>28532231
Are you suggesting allowing players to tweak moves accuracy and power?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 03:39:00 No.28532935 Report

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>>28531791
>unhealthy
Is this the new problematic?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 03:40:46 No.28532970 Report

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>>28532124
All communities are made up, despite however dumb Smogon itself may or may not be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 03:43:04 No.28533009 Report

Quoted By: >>28533247

>>28531791
>a perfect team that checks every possible threat
Is that the goal of smogon? So smogonfags want their team to be without weakness?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 03:45:25 No.28533051 Report

Quoted By: >>28533116

>>28531791
The ban culture in Smogon is insane.

Once they banned Garchomp it just opened the floodgates. Complex bans? The Swift Swim rule in 5th gen's weather wars? Swagger? Abilities you don't like? Any source of evasion or randomness?

Throw it all out in the name of a vision of some made up ideal metagame where you never have to deal with anything you don't want to deal with, where a mere majority is all it takes to decide something is 'oppressive'.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 03:46:58 No.28533092 Report

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>>28532813
They suspected Azu and got it 45% ban votes.
Meanwhile Lando-T has 43% usage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 03:48:05 No.28533110 Report

Quoted By: >>28533132

Or Taunting or Whirlwind or Knocking the stupid Follow Me mon out. Does he not realize that's why people use spread moves AND a single target move to get red of FMers and knock the set up mon down a peg? It's also why Brozong is such a thing cause it has two abilities that both help it keep Groudon from blowing up it's ass while taking care of the most currently spammed set up mon of Xerneas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 03:48:21 No.28533116 Report

Quoted By: >>28533260

>>28533051

Mega's existed to give Pokemon a fighting chance and nearly all of them were banned.

I am sure Salandit will be banned. I guarantee it.

I wouldn't mind it so much if people didn't try to enforce Smogon's rules as some kind of golden rule.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 03:49:08 No.28533132 Report

Quoted By: >>28533164 >>28533259

>>28533110
This isn't VGC.
This is smogon's own autistic doubles format.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 03:50:40 No.28533162 Report

Quoted By: >>28533183

>>28532552
I remember playing Shoddy in those days. The rock paper scissors game of Grattan versus Heatran. The baiting, the luring, the meta that favored aggression but only marginally.

Then Scizor got Bullet Punch, and then slide towards the priority meta began to shift. It was still tolerable in Gen IV, but Gen V rain dominance and Gen VI Vegas and hyper priority, and the introduction of Team Preview to remove the mindgame of disguising your team makeup has kept me from playing competitive again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 03:50:42 No.28533164 Report

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>>28533132
He's not wrong though, Bronzong seems to just be an example using the VGC meta. There are plenty of ways to deal with Follow Me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 03:51:49 No.28533183 Report

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>>28533162
Fuck autocorrect, what does Grattan even mean?

I meant Heatran ditto matches.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 03:55:12 No.28533245 Report

Quoted By: >>28533259

>>28531791
Does Smogon actually decide the play rules for official tournaments? I thought they were a fan community of tightwads imposing their rules as law. Does Nintendo or GameFreak affiliate with them when planning tournaments?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 03:55:19 No.28533247 Report

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>>28533009
>mfw gen VIII brings us Team Smogon, whose goal is to harvest the power of the box legends to force extinction upon their team's checks and counters so they can have a team without weaknesses and dominate the world
>mfw the 3rd legend, the trio master, has an auto-inverse battle ability and foils team smogon's plans
Shame GF is shit and will never do this

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 03:55:49 No.28533259 Report

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>>28533245
No. See >>28533132

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 03:55:54 No.28533260 Report

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>>28533116
>nearly all of them were banned
6 out of 47 (?) is now "nearly all of them"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 03:59:32 No.28533321 Report

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>>28533247
>The legendary trio is based completely around evasion and accuracy moves
>One of them has keen eye

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