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ITT:We fix/buff shitty abilities

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 14:52:52 No.28542555 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>28542768 >>28542883 >>28543020 >>28543078 >>28543281 >>28543588 >>28544024 >>28545293 >>28545421 >>28545710

Like how X/Y buffed some abilities maybe S/M will do the same.
Anticipation: in addition to sensing the dangerous move it also disables it.
Illuminate:Boosts accuracy by 30%
Healer: works on the user too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 14:54:56 No.28542588 Report

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Overcoat: is now immune to entry hazards too

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 15:01:39 No.28542701 Report

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Insomnia users can use Rest, but it only restores half the user's HP.
Vital Spirit users get a sharp boost in Attack if someone attempts to put it to sleep.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 15:04:01 No.28542742 Report

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Magma Armor increases Def/Sp Def if hit by a water move.

Flame Body gives all contact moves a 10% chance to burn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 15:04:04 No.28542745 Report

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Pokemon with waterveil are immune to fire attacks.

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Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 15:05:50 No.28542768 Report

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>>28542555
Iron Fist buffed from 20% additional power on punching moves to 50%. Make it fucking worth using.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 15:11:48 No.28542883 Report

Quoted By: >>28543023 >>28543043 >>28544101

>>28542555
>Anticipation: in addition to sensing the dangerous move it also disables it.
I thought you said fix, not to straight up make them fucking broken you nigger, if anything make it so it reduces the damage from that move since the mon is anticipating it or whatever

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 15:16:42 No.28542985 Report

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Unnerve makes the foe too nervous to use its consumable hold item, not just berries.

Rattled boosts the user's speed once for every time a Bug, Ghost, or Dark type on the field. Even if it's an ally mon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 15:18:14 No.28543020 Report

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>>28542555
Static-Any contact is paralysis.

Prepare your metagame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 15:18:23 No.28543023 Report

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>>28542883
Anticipating something means it can predict it. But not permanently disabled only 3 turns like normal disable. Think of it like an instant disable kinda how disguise is an instant substitute.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 15:18:27 No.28543025 Report

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Run away lets you switch even if opponent has trapping ability or has used trapping moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 15:19:13 No.28543043 Report

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>>28542883
How exactly does it work now? What does it sense: SEs? Most powerful ones? Ones above some BP treshold?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 15:20:47 No.28543067 Report

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>>28543020
No. That's too broken.

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Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 15:21:37 No.28543078 Report

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>>28542555
Pressure now also lowers move accuracy 10%.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 15:24:46 No.28543123 Report

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>>28543078

BANNED FROM SMOGON

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 15:30:00 No.28543207 Report

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Frisk:
a) disable the item for the first few turns
or
b) some kind of stat buff if opponent is holding anything

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 15:30:39 No.28543214 Report

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>>28543123
>Kyurem (regular) banned to Ubers

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 15:33:35 No.28543274 Report

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>>28543214
>suicune entei and raikou banned
>moltres articuno and zapdos banned
>forced to use pick pocket weavile

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Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 15:34:21 No.28543281 Report

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>>28542555
Vital Spirit: Now it also slighty increases the critical hit rate.

Did I fixed Rockruff?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 15:39:52 No.28543373 Report

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Chrolophill now also boosts attack and Sp. Attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 15:44:10 No.28543452 Report

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Pick pocket

When enemys item activates, you get half of it positive benefit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 15:47:06 No.28543511 Report

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>>28543025
The funny thing is that it already works like that...for wild Pokemon. Why they made it different for trainers is nobody's guess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 15:50:47 No.28543568 Report

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Illuminate has the same effect as Victory Star.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 15:51:34 No.28543588 Report

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>>28542555
>that anticipation buff
Ferrothorn becomes literally unkillable

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 15:55:00 No.28543659 Report

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Aroma Veil now works like safeguard for your team.

Big Pecks now also gives a 25% buff to the pokemon's defense stat.

Flare Boost also gives a 50% speed boost.

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Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 15:57:42 No.28543716 Report

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>>28543373
>Literally the "Swift Swim" equivalent of Sun
>Needs a boost when Growth exists
Are you retarded?
>>28543281
Depends on it's evolution's abilities. I can see Midnight Lugarugan keep that ability though.
>>28543568
Illuminate should also add a brightpower effect for the user as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 15:59:43 No.28543748 Report

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pick up can now pick up a knocked off item that was knocked off any pokemon earlier in the battle

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 16:01:15 No.28543783 Report

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>>28543078
Just make it so it halves the remaining PP of the move rounding up.
So a move with 15 PP goes: 15->7->3->1->0 and one with with 20 PP goes -> 20->10->5->2->1->0.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 16:04:32 No.28543862 Report

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Anticipation should not Disable the move, but grant a boost on something if there is a SE.
It makes sense to be Def/Sp.Def but it would be cooler to be speed.

Keen Eye raises the accuracy of low accuracy moves.

Unnerve should be for all items.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 16:05:03 No.28543878 Report

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>>28543568
And that makes sense how?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 16:07:07 No.28543912 Report

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>>28543878
Victory Star boosts accuracy by a percentage. You might be thinking of V-Create.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 16:08:56 No.28543944 Report

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Honey Gather - Allows the Pokemon to use Honey as a hold item, which restores the user's HP by 50% when HP is below half. If the user has no item, has a 50% chance of acquiring Honey at the end of their turn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 16:12:05 No.28543995 Report

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>>28543944
>50% hp restoration every second turn

nah, too OP now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 16:13:33 No.28544024 Report

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>>28542555
>illuminate is not accuracy's version of Intimidate

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 16:14:34 No.28544036 Report

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>>28543995
implying any of the three shitmons that get it will ever survive a turn

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 16:15:39 No.28544056 Report

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>>28544036
>teddiursa
>shitmon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 16:17:24 No.28544083 Report

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>>28544056
>teddiursa
>not shitmon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 16:18:37 No.28544101 Report

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>>28542883
>Anticipation: in addition to sensing the dangerous move, if the foe tries to uses said move, the Anticipation user will always go first

y/n?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 16:19:20 No.28544115 Report

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>>28544036

Don't think about what is now, consider that distribution may be changed and new mons with it don't have to be shitmons.

Given how you obtain Munchlax in D/P, imagine Snorlax with this, for example.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 16:37:32 No.28544495 Report

Quoted By: >>28545176

Keen eye - Basically make it a no guard clone, its only given to shitmons anyway. Pelipper and Swanna get to spam hurricane now, hitmonchan can use dynamic punch and watchog + noctowl can use hypnosis. Pretty necessary buff really.

Rivalry - No longer lowers damage against mons of a different gender. This helps mons like pyroar and unfezant have an actual useful ability.

Shell Armour - Now blocks secondary effects of moves instead. It really annoys me that nearly every single pokemon with a shell is given this shitty ability, and I can't really think of a good way to buff it, but now mons like torterra, samurott, kingler, and escavalier don't fear scald burns, and also can't be flinched.

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Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 16:49:08 No.28544760 Report

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>>28544024
you mean evasion
>starmie can now run blizzard/thunder for free
>hydro miss can no longer miss

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 16:57:46 No.28544975 Report

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Inner focus:The Pokemon is immune to moves with a chance to flinch

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 17:07:19 No.28545176 Report

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>>28544495

Why not just give keen eye an extra acc. boost? + 16% acc. and prevent acc. drops is nice. I would prefer No Guard to be unique.

Shell Armor (and Battle Armor) should give like ~10% or 20% def. bonus and prevent crits. In the end the only decent mon with this ab. is M.Slowbro. So increasing M.Slowbro def even more is no bueno. Even a 15% bonus would make him crazy, but to al other shitmons is just an ok bonus.

Oh and Weak Armor should reduce Def by 1 and increase Spd by 2. Even then i'm not sure the ab. is useful. ahah

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 17:12:28 No.28545267 Report

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Gluttony:
Berries are eaten immediately. If the pokemon has no item attached, it will steal and eat an opponent's Berry on the next available turn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 17:14:02 No.28545293 Report

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>>28542555
>Anticipation: in addition to sensing the dangerous move it also disables it for the first turn the user is on the battlefield.
There, that works better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 17:16:23 No.28545335 Report

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>>28544760
>thunder and blizzard at -1 evasion still can miss

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 17:20:46 No.28545421 Report

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>>28542555

Moxie
-boosts SpA OR Atk DEPENDING ON WHICH ONE IS HIGHER

You're welcome Pyroar

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 17:22:31 No.28545452 Report

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>>28545267

>berries are eaten immediately

So your pokemon will eat its Sitrus berry at full health?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 17:24:51 No.28545498 Report

Quoted By: >>28545522 >>28545754

>>28543568
This is perfect and fuck gamefreak for not thinking of it

>>28545293
Make it just raise both defense stats if it detects a move.

Light metal now doubles the mons speed. Heavy metal is cooler named suction cups

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 17:26:35 No.28545522 Report

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>>28545498
Light Metal Choice Band Scizor new meta.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 17:28:50 No.28545573 Report

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Wonder Guard: This Pokemon can only be damaged by super effective moves and nothing else

Toxic Boost: Attack and Speed is increased by 75% and takes 50% less poison related damage while poisoned

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 17:31:24 No.28545616 Report

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>>28545573
>Wonder Guard: This Pokemon can only be damaged by super effective moves and nothing else
Shedinja with Soak + Lightningrod Seaking wins VGC17, you heard it here first.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 17:32:29 No.28545637 Report

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>>28545616
If you can make a seaking balk mega-fug you deserve to win desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 17:35:37 No.28545690 Report

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Magma Armor reduce dmg by Ice type moves by 50% and prevents freezing. Why would someone want an ability that just prevents freezing?

Water Veil prevents burns and reduce dmg done by Fire moves by 50%. This is just a small bonus, all W.Veil users are Water types anyway.

Immunity prevents poison and reduce Poison dmg by 50% just for things to stay the same.

Vital Spirit prevents sleep and increases Spd by 1 when cured. Rest will now work differently, when it would fall asleep the Ability activates and keeps it awake healing only 50%. Yeah this shit is probably broken good, but most users are not that great.

Insomnia does the same but instead increases S.def by 1. Why S.Def.? I think its appropriate, thematic, another possibility would be S.atk.

Frisk now also causes the same effect as Embargo for 1-3 turns maybe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 17:36:45 No.28545710 Report

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>>28542555
>Anticipation
>Anticipated moves have their accuracy reduced by half.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 17:39:10 No.28545754 Report

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>>28545498

Light metal should increase spd by 1 and reduce def. by 1.

Heavy metal should increase atk and def by 1 and reduce spd by 1. There, pretty good.

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Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 17:39:41 No.28545763 Report

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Slow Start: This counter is NOT reset if the Pokémon is switched out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 17:45:04 No.28545856 Report

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Victory Star also adds 10% extra power to moves used by Victini and by other allies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 17:46:58 No.28545896 Report

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Unburden increases the Pokémon's Speed stat by 1 if there is no held item. Free choice scarf!

The normal Unburden increases spd by 2 but you need to use the item and the bonus is lost when you switch.

So, yeah, maybe Unburden doesn't really need a boost., we just need the dmg gems back!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 17:48:13 No.28545913 Report

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>>28545616
>Bellsprout used Vine whip

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 17:54:55 No.28546060 Report

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>>28545452
It's a trade off. You lose the goodness of status/HP restoration, but you get instant buffs with Salac Berries.

If you have no Berry and someone with a Sitrus Berry switches in, you steal it and eat it instantly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 18:11:49 No.28546414 Report

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>>28545710
This is the only right answer.
>>28545421
Mixmence just became more ridiculous.
If only Draco Meteor drop the user's special attack by one stage instead of two...
>>28545616
Moldbreaker pokemon with Electric coverage saves the day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 18:13:29 No.28546440 Report

Quoted By: >>28546970

Why does overcoat exist when magic guard is a thing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 18:39:22 No.28546970 Report

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>>28546440
Spore and Sleep Powder. And I guess Stun Spore.

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Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 19:00:39 No.28547421 Report

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>>28543078
>Accuracy is fun!

I'm surprised no one has mentioned snow cloak, which they want to put on various mons, it would be the perfect opportunity to buff it!

>Now cloak no longer increases evasion, instead it doubles speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 19:24:02 No.28547917 Report

Quoted By: >>28548054

gentlemen, how do we fix magician

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 19:25:42 No.28547956 Report

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>>28545573
Much as I like Zangoose I'd be happy if just the poison damage reduction was added- feels like the atk and spd boost is just overkill

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Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 19:30:11 No.28548054 Report

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>>28547917
Magician is fine as it is.
See attached image for proof.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 19:37:03 No.28548199 Report

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Defiant: Prevents self-inflicted stat drops.

Mega launcher: now works on moves with cannon and pump in the title.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Sep 2016 19:39:06 No.28548240 Report

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Gluttony
>Now doubles the effect of all food items as well
>Petaya Berry is a Nasty Plot
>Leftovers recovers same as Poison Heal / Toxic Orb

The buff Snorlax needs?

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