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Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2016 07:04:33 No.28583207 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>28583892 >>28584116 >>28585314 >>28585416 >>28585756 >>28586312

If Scarf Ditto is literally impossible to beat, even by characters outside of Pokémon, why doesn't every competitive team include one?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2016 07:57:37 No.28583713 Report

Quoted By: >>28585756

>using banned scarfed ditto in competitive
It's literally above Uber

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2016 08:10:46 No.28583851 Report

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i like having at least one element of randomness on my team

also i have a shiny one

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2016 08:13:26 No.28583868 Report

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It's useless against anything not offensively oriented

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2016 08:14:19 No.28583877 Report

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>mfw I set up substitute just before opp sends in his ditto
psssh... nothin personel kidd...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2016 08:16:03 No.28583892 Report

Quoted By: >>28584588 >>28585093

>>28583207
>Ultra Beast attacks
>Ditto used Transform!
Checkmate Arceus

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2016 08:19:29 No.28583921 Report

Quoted By: >>28585045

why is scarfed ditto op?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2016 08:37:37 No.28584116 Report

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>>28583207
But scarf ditto sucks against walls and team preview makes anyone that isn't retarded to save a wall and be careful with their sweeper.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2016 09:27:32 No.28584588 Report

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>>28583892
>using
Imposter is auto. Tapu will job and Ditto will fucking wreck any UB.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2016 10:22:27 No.28585045 Report

Quoted By: >>28590195

>>28583921
Best revenge killer in game. Love beating noobs with it, it copies stat changes as well, so I just let people freely set-up, while I throw some rocks and spikes and shit around.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2016 10:28:02 No.28585093 Report

Quoted By: >>28585113 >>28585188 >>28585207 >>28585328

>>28583892

This raises an interesting point. Assuming that Ultra Beasts aren't pokemon, what will happen when a Ditto uses Transform/Imposter on them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2016 10:29:50 No.28585113 Report

Quoted By: >>28585367

>>28585093
Nothing happens

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2016 10:35:55 No.28585188 Report

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>>28585093
This is assuming you get to battle them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2016 10:37:50 No.28585207 Report

Quoted By: >>28585261 >>28585367

>>28585093
>transform failed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2016 10:43:57 No.28585261 Report

Quoted By: >>28585294 >>28585309 >>28585744

>>28585207
>making a potential member of your team absolutely useless no latter its level
This has never happened in the main story and is completely against the spirit but hey I guess they might as well kill two birds with one stone

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2016 10:46:42 No.28585294 Report

Quoted By: >>28585331

>>28585261
>This has never happened in the main story and is completely against the spirit
No fucking duh, a pokemon is shown battling it, unless they go out to explicitly banlist pokemon/prevent them from being caught or moved into the game any gimmicky strats are going to work. Not to mention that ORAS was easy as shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2016 10:48:55 No.28585309 Report

Quoted By: >>28585342

>>28585261
>This has never happened in the main story
Metapod

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2016 10:49:29 No.28585314 Report

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>>28583207
>Metal Powder is reverted to Gen 2 effects
>Quick Powder and Metal Powder now work while Ditto is transformed
How does the meta change?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2016 10:51:37 No.28585328 Report

Quoted By: >>28585358

>>28585093
Why are you assuming Ditto can only transform into Pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2016 10:51:45 No.28585331 Report

Quoted By: >>28585358

>>28585294
I don't understand. Do you mean ditto will be able to transform?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2016 10:53:37 No.28585342 Report

Quoted By: >>28585562

>>28585309
?? You can have a metapod with something else than harden anon, just catch a caterpie and make it evolve

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2016 10:56:00 No.28585358 Report

Quoted By: >>28585386 >>28585422 >>28585514

>>28585328
Duplica's Ditto turned into a book.

>>28585331
Other than sub and a few other moves, since when hasn't Ditto been able to transform if it has the PP for it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2016 10:57:34 No.28585367 Report

Quoted By: >>28585398

>>28585207
>>28585113
Transform doesn't copy HP so if UB are boss battles you could be wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2016 10:59:56 No.28585386 Report

Quoted By: >>28585398

>>28585358
Yeah so we agree

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2016 11:01:53 No.28585398 Report

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>>28585386
I wasn't the anon who disagreed with you though.

>>28585367
Shame Ditto has shit HP but as long as the UBs aren't catchable and aren't walls/sturdy scarf gives a good chance of KO. Unless of course the opponent switches pokemon or you merely misclick and you get locked into a shit move with 5 PP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2016 11:04:52 No.28585416 Report

Quoted By: >>28587691

>>28583207
Why would it be impossible to beat? It's only good against offense, which always has priority anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2016 11:06:26 No.28585422 Report

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>>28585358
Ditto can't transform if Zoroark is under illusion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2016 11:20:06 No.28585514 Report

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>>28585358

Putting aside that the anime and games are separate canons anyway, you can chalk many things that happened in the original anime series to early instalment weirdness.

Things that happened in the original series but we never see now:
>Appearances of real-world animals, such as the fish in the Cerulean Gym and the mongoose at Maiden's Peak
>Guns everywhere
>Pokeballs being able to capture inanimate objects, like the riceball in the Primeape episode

I'd even go so far as to say the original series is like another separate canon, with all of the inconsistencies to the more modern anime.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2016 11:26:00 No.28585562 Report

Quoted By: >>28585581

>>28585342
Yeah
But the main story has it to where there are bug catchers who complain about metapod only knowing harden, and it's possible to catch a near-useless metapod.
We also have magikarps only knowing splash, pokemon with only ground moves known going against flying types, etc.

So yeah. Ditto might be useless against ultra beasts, and if it is, that isn't shocking in the slightest.

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Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2016 11:28:27 No.28585581 Report

Quoted By: >>28587994

>>28585562
>metapod only knows harden
Yes because that's the only move they'd give to the UB.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2016 11:44:40 No.28585744 Report

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>>28585261
It's happened with ditto before though, if it's up against a zoroark whose illusion hasn't broken yet it won't transform, so it's not out of the question for them to say that transform just doesn't work against Ultra Beasts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2016 11:46:37 No.28585756 Report

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>>28583713

It's PU anon. Literally the lowest tier.

>>28583207

Given that transform leaves Ditto with only 5 PP per move, scarf Ditto can get PP Stalled pretty easily unless it's nabbed some insane boosts, and with team preview, you'd have to be an idiot to set-up a boosting sweeper when your opponent has Ditto at the ready.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2016 12:44:49 No.28586312 Report

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>>28583207
Well I would argue that using Ditto itself is pretty useless, because we all know when Ditto transforms, it's PP is cut below half. So I would imagine it wouldn't last very long.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2016 14:35:00 No.28587691 Report

Quoted By: >>28588769

>>28585416
>Why would it be impossible to beat?
Because /vp/ constantly brings it up in power-wank threads against characters like Saitama, Accelerator, Dr. Manhattan, Gold Experience Requiem, Future Flash, Elder God Demonbane, and Popeye with unlimited spinach. First reply "scarf impostor Ditto", second reply "/thread".
Is there seriously a pokémon programmed into the game that can't lose under any circumstances? I hope someone got fired for that oversight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2016 14:52:02 No.28587994 Report

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>>28585581
What?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2016 15:33:49 No.28588769 Report

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>>28587691
Most dittos in battles get wrecked if they are tricked into changing into one of opponent's shitmons, lower HP or switchouts with a stuck move into another Pokemkn.

In most power level threads, 1 and 3 is not an issue. Also, any glass canons are shrekt but endurance is a problem for ditto (but revives are, well)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2016 16:44:47 No.28590128 Report

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>tfw still trying to find an imposter Ditto in a hidden grotto

Is it real?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2016 16:47:30 No.28590195 Report

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>>28585045
I remember bringing my Ditto out on Hoops Unbound on Random Battle Spot.

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