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Anonymous Mon 19 Sep 2016 19:35:14 No.28639355 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>28639555 >>28639829 >>28639924 >>28641327

Why Trainer AI can't switch Pokemons?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Sep 2016 19:36:18 No.28639369 Report

Quoted By: >>28641252

too hard for the kiddies

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Sep 2016 19:36:59 No.28639386 Report

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too hard for the adults

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Anonymous Mon 19 Sep 2016 19:37:02 No.28639388 Report

Quoted By: >>28639433

But they can. And not just the Maison trainers too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Sep 2016 19:37:23 No.28639394 Report

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Or use healing/support system.
Some trainers use Full Restore and X Speed/Attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Sep 2016 19:37:47 No.28639399 Report

Quoted By: >>28639432

it can't but only under special condition, like if it already knows you used a water type move before, if it has a pokemon with Water Absorb there's a chance it will switch into it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Sep 2016 19:38:48 No.28639432 Report

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>>28639399
*it can

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Sep 2016 19:39:00 No.28639433 Report

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>>28639388
still horrendously rare

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Sep 2016 19:39:32 No.28639438 Report

Quoted By: >>28639463

Why is the extent of the AI's "strategy" to use full restore if they notice their health reaches red? Why is it impossible for GF to design a true hard mode instead of fabricating difficulty by cheating in maison and other shit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Sep 2016 19:40:59 No.28639463 Report

Quoted By: >>28639613 >>28641252

>>28639438
They're poor, incompetent developers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Sep 2016 19:41:26 No.28639477 Report

Quoted By: >>28639589 >>28639897

Barry and the Maison trainers are the only AI I can recall switching pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Sep 2016 19:45:23 No.28639555 Report

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>>28639355
I remember Caitlin of the Elite 4 would switch if your pokemon was a dark type. You could abuse it with Zoroark's Illusion though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Sep 2016 19:46:59 No.28639589 Report

Quoted By: >>28639668

>>28639477
I remember some random swimmer switching out against my Shedinja in ORAS

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Sep 2016 19:48:09 No.28639613 Report

Quoted By: >>28639977 >>28641297

>>28639463
Fuck off, if you actually played XY and fought the Ace Trainers when you weren't overleveled you would know that they can make good AI and sets

they just don't want to make the game difficult

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Sep 2016 19:48:19 No.28639618 Report

Quoted By: >>28639759

reminder to report bait threads

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Sep 2016 19:48:45 No.28639628 Report

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The only time I've ever seem trainers switch out pokemon was platinum. It happened 3 times.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Sep 2016 19:49:33 No.28639639 Report

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I remember a lot of u-turn or volt switch pokemon changes, but very few beyond that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Sep 2016 19:51:11 No.28639668 Report

Quoted By: >>28639874

>>28639589
Every trainer will do that if they have a pokemon whose moves won't work.
Like a pokemon who has only normal and fighting moves against a Ghost or most pokemon versus Shedinja

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Sep 2016 19:52:20 No.28639690 Report

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I just replayed Blue for VC and one of the dudes in Koga's gym switched out his Kadabra on me. It caught me off guard because I didn't remember anyone switching in the original games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Sep 2016 19:54:45 No.28639737 Report

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They always switch out on me when I use Perish Song

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Sep 2016 19:55:55 No.28639759 Report

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>>28639618
>bait threads
how's this bait, OP asked a simple question

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Sep 2016 19:56:56 No.28639784 Report

Quoted By: >>28639848 >>28639907 >>28641238

How to make trainers feel more genuine:

>trainers nickname their pokemon sometimes
>trainers switch out regularly
>sometimes when you encounter a trainer, their pokemon will have some health missing or have a status effect

At least in Sun/Moon trainers will be using different types of pokeballs now. Still a long way to go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Sep 2016 19:59:32 No.28639829 Report

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>>28639355
But they can.
>Y is the only time one my mons had a Grass move
>the only times i use it Shauna and Diantha switch to their Sap Sipper Goodra

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Anonymous Mon 19 Sep 2016 20:00:10 No.28639848 Report

Quoted By: >>28639907

>>28639784
>encounter a trainer
>"g-go easy on me...please..."
>all his pokemon are fainted except for one pokemon with half its health missing

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Sep 2016 20:01:37 No.28639874 Report

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>>28639668
They'll also do it when they have an ability like Water Absorb. Can't remember if they switch after seeing the water type move or a water type pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Sep 2016 20:03:12 No.28639897 Report

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From my experience, the AI will only switch out if their current Pokemon has no way of dealing damage to yours, and one of their others can.

>>28639477
I had some random faggot in the Battle Chateau swap out on me before. I believe they switched out a Nidoqueen, but don't remember what switched in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Sep 2016 20:03:43 No.28639907 Report

Quoted By: >>28640006 >>28641109

>>28639848
>>28639784
I would like a mercy option, or an option to escort them to a pokemon center, or be able to fake a loss to boost their spirits. That would be nice. An option to challenge them with certain rules too? like 3 vs 3 if they don't have as many pokemon as you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Sep 2016 20:04:53 No.28639922 Report

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There will probably be more switch-ins in SM because of Pokemon like Gumshoos having abilities based on switching

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Sep 2016 20:04:57 No.28639924 Report

Quoted By: >>28641063

>>28639355
They improved the AI in X/Y. I had a few instances of trainers switching out mons, mainly if they had a Flash Fire/Sap Sipper in the back and they have seen a move of the same type already, or if they are locked into a move and you bring a pokemon immune to it.

I wish they took it farther though, if you have a Fire type mon out, and they have grass out and water in the back, they should by all means switch out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Sep 2016 20:07:32 No.28639977 Report

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>>28639613
Tell that to the gym leaders. Or like any non normal diantha boss

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Sep 2016 20:08:47 No.28640006 Report

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>>28639907
>3 vs 3 if they don't have as many pokemon as you.
This would be really cool as well.

Amai 1977-0350-7428

Amai 1977-0350-7428 Mon 19 Sep 2016 20:18:01 No.28640191 Report

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I am replaying alpha sapphire and had a Shedinja in my team. The NPCs would actually often switch out their pokemon if they had one the party that could damage Shedinja.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Sep 2016 20:55:59 No.28640884 Report

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>Metagame consist in intense switching
I don't want god tier AI. Just switch pokemons when they are in red or detect my mons weakness. When the entire team just spam the same powerful attack it gets pretty boring

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Sep 2016 20:57:10 No.28640912 Report

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Some trainers in Koga's gym in gen 1 actually switch out their mons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Sep 2016 20:59:09 No.28640940 Report

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>not playing difficulty hacks

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Sep 2016 21:05:17 No.28641063 Report

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>>28639924
>They improved the AI in X/Y
The AI actually got dumber in XY, it was smarter in gen 4. It gen VI it doesn't know how half the abilities work (try Storm Drain Gastrodon vs a water type without a grass move), doesn't switch as often and doesn't calculate damage properly either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Sep 2016 21:06:59 No.28641095 Report

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Juggler

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Sep 2016 21:07:36 No.28641109 Report

Quoted By: >>28641227

>>28639907
>Turn Pokemon into Undertale
Nah senpai, and besides, 90% of players would still choose to fight for that sweet, sweet cash and experience.

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Anonymous Mon 19 Sep 2016 21:12:53 No.28641198 Report

Quoted By: >>28641332

>GF
>The people that put memento on a pokemon when the trainer only has 1 mon
>thinking they know shit about how to make AI fight smarter

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Sep 2016 21:14:39 No.28641227 Report

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>>28641109
I haven't played that game, but it would be nice to have a few opportunities like it. They do it in the anime all the time. But yeah, the anime is completely different.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Sep 2016 21:15:05 No.28641238 Report

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>>28639784
HOLY SHIT THIS

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Sep 2016 21:15:50 No.28641252 Report

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>>28639463
Nah, try Maison out, GF can be sadistic bastards if they want to.

The real answer here is >>28639369

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Sep 2016 21:18:01 No.28641297 Report

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>>28639613
Don't defend XY around me you little underage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Sep 2016 21:19:37 No.28641327 Report

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>>28639355
It will switch instantly if it can't hit through your Wonderguard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Sep 2016 21:19:46 No.28641332 Report

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>>28641198

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