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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 07:22:39 No.28651388 View View Reply Original Report

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ITT: Post 1st-stage pokemon that are superior to their evolutions

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 07:41:35 No.28651579 Report

Quoted By: >>28651627 >>28651695 >>28651701

>>28651388
Duskull.
Dusclops just looks like a silly mummy and loses the cool skull motif. Dusknoir is better, but still not as great as duskull.

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 07:45:22 No.28651607 Report

Quoted By: >>28651614

literally every starter
it's obvious these are always the first things they designed before working out the evolution line

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 07:46:33 No.28651614 Report

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>>28651607
t. Genwunner

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 07:47:04 No.28651622 Report

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Frillish

Male is shouldermon tier

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 07:47:48 No.28651627 Report

Quoted By: >>28651672 >>28651691 >>28651708

>>28651579
This is somewhat common with Ghost types.
Don't get me wrong, I like Gourgeist but I wish they had done the evolution differently. I dunno, just make the whole thing bigger and change some details, without giving it a long neck and an admittedly cute hairstyle.

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 07:48:17 No.28651634 Report

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>>28651614
what?

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 07:51:39 No.28651672 Report

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>>28651627
Yeah, I wish it didn't lose the bat motif either. I get thay Gourgeist does have a somewhat French style, but I wanted something a little rounder and creepier (or even cuter) for a jack-o-lantern mon

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 07:53:14 No.28651691 Report

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>>28651627
Pumpkaboo should have been a split evo. The females become gourgiest and the males become a bigger pumkaboo with some added stuff.

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 07:53:24 No.28651695 Report

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>>28651579
Duskull is incredible overall. Though I think Dusclops looks better than Dusknoir. In general, some of those Sinnoh evolutions messed up a few lines.

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 07:54:29 No.28651701 Report

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>>28651579
This. Duskull is great - the evolutions, much less so.

Also Rhyhorn, arguably Scyther (though I love Scizor)

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 07:55:04 No.28651707 Report

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>>28651695
I think dusclops is too silly looking in comparison to its evo and prevo. That's my biggest gripe with it.

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 07:55:16 No.28651708 Report

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>>28651627
hey, at least it's better than his evo

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 07:57:16 No.28651718 Report

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>>28651708
>not liking trevenant

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 07:57:29 No.28651719 Report

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>>28651708
>talking shit about based Trevenant
Take it back

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 07:59:00 No.28651728 Report

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>>28651672
Yeah man, the fangs on the first form are way too cute, I wish they had kept that at least.

>>28651691
I would be very OK with this.

>>28651708
I dunno man... I kinda like the whole spooky tree thing that Trevenant has going on, I feel it worked well.
The in-game model is not all that great though, and I still like Pumpkaboo/Gourgeist better.

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 07:59:48 No.28651735 Report

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>>28651718
>>28651719
it's as generic as it can get
it's just like every other possessed tree, but with one eye

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 08:01:11 No.28651749 Report

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>>28651719
Man Trevenant is such a disappointment.
You can do so many things with a treant and spooky tree mon and this design is just so fucking average

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 08:01:47 No.28651756 Report

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>>28651707
Really? Dusknoir is the one that strikes me as cartoony and non-menacing, like the waistline being a silly mouth. I think the Dusclops boss in Pinball RSE left and impression on me.

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 08:02:48 No.28651766 Report

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 08:05:03 No.28651783 Report

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>>28651756
>I think the Dusclops boss in Pinball RSE left and impression on me.
I think the same thing probably happened to me, but with the dusknoir in explorers of time.

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 08:05:03 No.28651784 Report

Quoted By: >>28651804 >>28652790

How does this glorious bipedal Otter warrior turn into a down syndrome quadrapedal water unicorn

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 08:07:49 No.28651804 Report

Quoted By: >>28651818 >>28652790

>>28651784
>first stage

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 08:09:43 No.28651818 Report

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>>28651804
Fuck you let me be mad

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 08:12:39 No.28651834 Report

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>>28651766
I like flygon, but trapinch's evos should have gone in a completely different direction.

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 08:16:51 No.28651864 Report

Quoted By: >>28651883

floatzel looks dumb

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 08:19:29 No.28651883 Report

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>>28651864
Fuck you, Floatzel is great. [/spoiler:lit]needs more porn though[/spoiler:lit]

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 08:20:40 No.28651892 Report

Quoted By: >>28651920

it hurts

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 08:24:29 No.28651920 Report

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>>28651892
You best not be talking shit about this side of its evolutionary path m8

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 08:29:20 No.28651964 Report

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>>28651920
froslass is even worse than glalie

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 08:31:31 No.28651980 Report

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>>28651920

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 08:32:01 No.28651984 Report

Quoted By: >>28652005 >>28652120

>>28651964
I respectfully but strongly disagree; the concept of an Ice/Ghost type is pretty rad and it was well executed in Froslass, shame that Ice types are fucking horrible when it comes to in-game stats.

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 08:33:45 No.28651997 Report

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In comparison, Linoone is a disappointment.

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 08:34:27 No.28652005 Report

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>>28651984
i respectfully but strongly disagree that it was well executed in froslass

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 08:35:01 No.28652010 Report

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>>28651980
Go away Alain, you use a fucking Mega Charizard X, your opinion is automatically invalidated.

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 08:36:09 No.28652018 Report

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 08:36:38 No.28652022 Report

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>>28652005
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

What kind of evolution would you have liked for Snorunt?

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 08:37:13 No.28652027 Report

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>>28651920
froslass is cool, but she retains almost none of snorunt's look
glailie is ugly as all hell

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 08:43:00 No.28652065 Report

Quoted By: >>28652090

>>28652018
(You)
>>28652022
Something that plays off of the chilly totem theme

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 08:45:19 No.28652090 Report

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>>28652065
>totem

elaborate

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 08:45:21 No.28652091 Report

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>>28652010
Invalidated? I guess you're right. I'll have to take solace in the trophy I won and seek comfort from the girl I also got.

Speaking of, wasn't there some other trainer who didn't get either of these things? He had a Glalie once upon a time, right? Truly it is the worse evolution, but Froslass is no great catch either.

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 08:47:00 No.28652109 Report

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>>28652091
>rping

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 08:47:24 No.28652110 Report

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 08:47:32 No.28652112 Report

Quoted By: >>28652135

This little thing really had potential. Blaziken's design is such fucking garbage.

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 08:48:51 No.28652120 Report

Quoted By: >>28652158

>>28651984
Froslass is actually a decent Ice-type, and its typing doesn't hurt it that much.

Yes, Ice is a shit typing defensively, but Froslass isn't a defensive Pokémon, and it outspeeds a lot. It could've used more SpA though.

It's not overly powerful or anything, but at least it's not another Ice-type 'tank'.

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 08:50:17 No.28652134 Report

Quoted By: >>28652162

>>28652090
idk to me it always looked like a part of a totem pole, but instead of the wings outstretched, they were wrapped around it because it was cold.
It could've evolved into an ice/ghost spirit bird

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 08:50:56 No.28652135 Report

Quoted By: >>28652150 >>28652161

>>28652112
It's not like the alternative was much better

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 08:53:05 No.28652150 Report

Quoted By: >>28652196

>>28652135
Was this a concept for torchic's final Evo?

You're right, it still has those horrible bell-bottom flares.

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 08:54:37 No.28652158 Report

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>>28652120
>It could've used more SpA though.

That would have been nice, yes.
Still, a pretty usable Pokemon in the end unless you are playing against some really tryhard people with teams full of the strongest legendaries.

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 08:55:04 No.28652161 Report

Quoted By: >>28652196

>>28652135
Lati@s started as a starter concept? That's odd.

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 08:55:04 No.28652162 Report

Quoted By: >>28652175

>>28652134
It's meant to be a coat or parka or something it wears to stay warm. Froslass is a pretty good evolution by keeping that clothing aspect but it has a kimono instead due to incorporating the whole yukionna mythology into it. I don't know Glalie's deal, I guess it sheds the coat and embraces the cold.

I do like Snorunt more than the evolutions myself though.

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 08:56:33 No.28652175 Report

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>>28652162
I know i just want to dream

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 09:00:58 No.28652196 Report

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>>28652150
>>28652161
It is not known what it was intended to be. Whether it was the starter final evolution, or an early legendary design, or something else.
But both Blaziken and Lati@s are clearly derivative from this pokémon, so it is likely it was an early concept meant to fill one of these roles.
Torchic also went through a few designs during development, there's at least two sketches of it floating around.

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 10:27:56 No.28652790 Report

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>>28651784
>>28651804
>Warrior
Kek. Dewott doesn't even have swords and armor. Not even the facial hair of a sensei
>Water Unicorn
The horn is awesome dude. Its a 3rd shell weapon for crying out loud.

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