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Are Smogon-rules dead now?

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 18:07:38 No.28663609 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>28663648 >>28663681 >>28663692 >>28663807 >>28663837 >>28664037 >>28664176 >>28666331 >>28667162

Since instruct, and all the dance copying birds, and whatever, there's so much variety in the meta. There's no reason for Smogon to stay alive, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 18:09:23 No.28663648 Report

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>>28663609

Yeah, sure. Okay.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 18:10:08 No.28663662 Report

Quoted By: >>28664936

We can only hope, OP.

VGC will flourish though.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 18:10:49 No.28663681 Report

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>>28663609
When do smogonfags just grow some balls. Fucking faggots get laid or something its just a kids video game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 18:11:07 No.28663692 Report

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>>28663609
There was a reason before?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 18:14:46 No.28663780 Report

Quoted By: >>28663870 >>28668055

@28663609
The retardation of this bait doesn't even deserve a (***).

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 18:15:56 No.28663807 Report

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>>28663609
>Variety
>Literally just going to be volcarona, Oranguru and dance birb

Whatever you say, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 18:17:02 No.28663831 Report

Quoted By: >>28663885

>smogon mostly does singles
>new stuff is for doubles/triples
hurr

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 18:17:13 No.28663837 Report

Quoted By: >>28663898 >>28664096

>>28663609
>only one pokemon can have instruct so everyone will pick it
>"variety"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 18:18:36 No.28663870 Report

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>>28663780
No problemo, i'm following my own posts activly, and read everything for personal attention.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 18:19:22 No.28663885 Report

Quoted By: >>28664135 >>28664745

>>28663831
>New stuff is for doubles/triples
>Ingame fights are still primarily singles
Fuck this gay game.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 18:19:44 No.28663896 Report

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>bring 6
>pick 4

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 18:19:53 No.28663898 Report

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>>28663837
>Smeargel

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 18:20:37 No.28663912 Report

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>>28663898

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 18:25:18 No.28664037 Report

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>>28663609
Why do you autists care so much? Don't use Smogon rules if you don't play it

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Electric Safari 3454 0683 1747 Tue 20 Sep 2016 18:27:51 No.28664096 Report

Quoted By: >>28665212

>>28663837
>He doesnt use trace pokemon

How bad is /vp/

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 18:29:31 No.28664135 Report

Quoted By: >>28667098

>>28663885
>>Ingame fights are still primarily singles
Eh, we don't know that yet. After all, the battle we did see in the trailer was a single trainer in a double battle rather than the usual two trainers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 18:30:37 No.28664176 Report

Quoted By: >>28664217 >>28664321

>>28663609
> Being Smogon
> Ban all new mechanics who hurt their favorites

Et voilà.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 18:32:09 No.28664217 Report

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>>28664176
Such as?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 18:35:42 No.28664321 Report

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>>28664176
Isn't the entire point of smogon to make your favorites usable no matter how shit they are?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 18:52:26 No.28664662 Report

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>>28664321
>tfw favorite is Beautifly
No, Smogon is a pseudo-elitist club of children, who make their own rules and tell others how to play.
Look at Beautiflys Strategy Dex entry ;_;

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 18:55:03 No.28664715 Report

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>>28664662
look at the spinda one too, theyre just memeing for lesser used pokemon because there isnt any data that useable to see what sets people use for rarer pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 18:56:25 No.28664745 Report

Quoted By: >>28667098

>>28663885
Could be like Emerald where double battles were ramped up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 18:57:33 No.28664770 Report

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>>28664662
Are you being sarcastic? Because you're wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 18:59:37 No.28664820 Report

Quoted By: >>28664997 >>28665017

What would instructs' usefulness in singles even be? Making the enemy pokemon attack or set up twice in the same turn? You sure killed smogon there, yep!

If anything, this would impact VGC far more. Double attacking Mega Kangaskhan, Double Dark Void, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 19:03:56 No.28664936 Report

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>>28663662
Until all the broken ubers are allowed in again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 19:06:44 No.28664997 Report

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>>28664820
i'm sure they would create limitations for this move

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 19:07:44 No.28665017 Report

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>>28664820
Why are some pkmn ubers?
Because there was nothing, what could deal with it, which is commonly used.
There's literaly no point in splitting pkmn in tiers now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 19:10:27 No.28665065 Report

Quoted By: >>28665196

>>28664662
They still provide an optimal build for the thing, they just make sure you know it's weak as shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 19:15:37 No.28665190 Report

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>>28664662

Not even Smogon can redeem some Pokemon. But who knows, F(t)U might become a legitimate tier in Gen 7 with the new pokemon and Alolan forms being added so Beautifly MIGHT actually be useful in a tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 19:15:58 No.28665196 Report

Quoted By: >>28665259

>>28665065
Flash, Morning Sun and Defog...
Furthermore Defog and Rivalry are illegal together.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 19:16:26 No.28665212 Report

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>>28664096
>Trace
>Copying moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 19:17:50 No.28665244 Report

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>>28664662
Anon, they can't BUFF Pokemon. I'm sure they would if they could, but nobody can change in-game stats. Blame gamefreak, not them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 19:18:18 No.28665259 Report

Quoted By: >>28665391

>>28665196
BW actually has a build. XY is some dumb shit though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 19:18:55 No.28665272 Report

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>>28664662
The article isn't funny, but Beautifly is literally unusable

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 19:19:16 No.28665278 Report

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>>28664662
>Providing a safe haven for your bro in NU
>Getting mad at them

If you played the normal way, mega fugg and grenigger would tear your shit up. At least in NU Beautifly can function.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 19:23:29 No.28665391 Report

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>>28665259

Because there's literally, and I mean lliterally no point to use Beatifly over Butterfree. At least Dustox is immune to Toxic and can absorb toxic spikes and Masquerain can learn Ice Beam.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 19:26:01 No.28665446 Report

Quoted By: >>28666832

I would cry tears of joy if we actually got 6v6 singles in the game in random online battles and ranked battles

Why it's 3v3 I'll never know but it fucking sucks

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 20:07:41 No.28666331 Report

Quoted By: >>28666432

>>28663609
>it's a person who has never played by smogon rules has a hot opinion about it episode

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 20:11:03 No.28666432 Report

Quoted By: >>28667173

>>28666331
t. smogoncuck defending stealth rock with his life

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 20:13:24 No.28666490 Report

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Are you fucking retarded?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 20:22:42 No.28666832 Report

Quoted By: >>28667151

>>28665446
6v6 battle spot? Oh boy be prepared for some shit.

Prepare for BP cancer and anything goes + species and item clause in unranked.

Or anything goes + item and species clsuse+event and box legends banned + Alolan only + soul dew ban in ranked. Basically volturn Salamence metagame with SR suicide leads.

That's the Nintendo formats way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 20:32:03 No.28667098 Report

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>>28664745
>>28664135
I would really love to be able to challenge the Elite Four or equivalent in doubles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 20:33:52 No.28667151 Report

Quoted By: >>28667249

>>28666832
Man I don't even care I just want 6v6 rated singles to be possible

It's not like 3v3 is more healthy

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 20:34:22 No.28667162 Report

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>>28663609
actually we need smogon more than ever

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 20:34:55 No.28667173 Report

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>>28666432
>omgon bans swagge

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 20:38:03 No.28667249 Report

Quoted By: >>28667703 >>28667857

>>28667151
3v3 is sash BP/PRIORITY or stallfest zone.

Honestly, the moment you go into 6v6 you enter the realm of sneaky pebbles, and people will dislike sneaky pebbles in their 6v6 showcasing how much stuff have powercreeped offensively.

Just saying, idiots here bitch about SR being a smogon thing, but once battlespot gets 6v6 they will realize how this shit actually works for offensive setups.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 20:55:48 No.28667703 Report

Quoted By: >>28668005

>>28667249
So are you saying it's good we only have 3v3 rated?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 21:02:17 No.28667857 Report

Quoted By: >>28669570

>>28667249
The biggest issue with 6v6 is Baton Pass, it's not even a question.

Scolipede and Espionage would absolutely fuck shit up, nigh unbeatable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 21:08:02 No.28668005 Report

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>>28667703
It's a fast paced decent option, 6v6 gives more space to abuse stuff.

Also hazards become more important, stall gets to form a defensive backbone wich makes hazards even more important.

And win cons start to need more breathing, thus the playerbase trying to find the best one, then find ways to give it his actual breathing room.

People bitch about smogon, but once they see how this are in slightly ruled AG smogon will look like a paradise, except for idiots that expect to see an Snorlax set designed for a Primal Groudon Metagame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 21:10:17 No.28668055 Report

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>>28663780
>@28663609
>(***)
welcome to 4chan newfriend :^) is this your first visit in garbageland?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 21:10:20 No.28668056 Report

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>>28664662
>"Lalalala I'm not listening to others despite the fact my favourite pokemon is vastly inferior to others."

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 21:17:38 No.28668230 Report

Quoted By: >>28668643

Every gen, it's the same thing.

>the special physical split is gonna kill smogon
>the wonder launcher is gonna kill smogon
>pokemon amie is gonna kill smogon
>mega evolutions are gonna kill smogon
>sky battles are gonna kill smogon
>battlespot is gonna kill smogon

The retards on this site never fucking fail to amaze me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 21:35:23 No.28668643 Report

Quoted By: >>28668679 >>28668866

>>28668230
Sorry, but nothing you mentioned affected the meta that much in the last years. It was pretty much just phases, like weather moves.
But now, we have a huge pool of mechanics and possibilities. After this, we'll get back to phase. It will start with spamming and copying boosts on everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 21:36:45 No.28668679 Report

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>>28668643
Again, they barely affected the meta, but before the games releases, people sword up and down they would kill smogon.

Before XY, I had people swearing to me that amie was gonna kill smogon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 21:44:47 No.28668866 Report

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>>28668643
>Special/physical split, and mega evolutions.
>Not major effects to the meta.
???

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 22:09:41 No.28669427 Report

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I don't understand why people want Smogon dead so badly.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 22:15:31 No.28669570 Report

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>>28667857
Espionage, huh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 22:28:02 No.28669854 Report

Quoted By: >>28669986

make your own ruleset if you hate smogon so much 2bh

also
name 1 thing smogon ACTUALLY does wrong

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 22:30:30 No.28669917 Report

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>>28664662
>le ebin omgon doesnt want you to use your favorites copypaste maymay kekekekekekekekekekekekekekek

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2016 22:33:07 No.28669986 Report

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>>28669854
In my experience, welp the moderation can get awkward, other than that it is honestly a very fair system.

I love the meritocracy they have on their suspect tests, you earn the right to vote, people think it is an aristocracy but so far it doesn't come as one.

Also low ladder is toxic as fuck with their beliefs on what is supposed to be optimal.

All of these are human flaws within the usage system though.

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