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Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 05:58:06 No.28679375 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>28679393 >>28679408 >>28679430 >>28679902 >>28681958 >>28682003

Gamefreak really should make a separate "airborne" status for Pokemon, and scrap Flying-type's Ground immunity and Levitate. It would make more sense.
Pick related doesn't even have fucking wings, and Levitate could stand to be replaced with better abilities. Not to mention some Pokemon CAN fly (Dunsparce) but don't have anything to show for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 05:59:40 No.28679393 Report

Quoted By: >>28679534 >>28681968

>>28679375
>It would make more sense.

and it would make for worse gameplay

giving pokemon some extra hidden value because reasons is retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 06:00:17 No.28679408 Report

Quoted By: >>28681958

>>28679375
Also make bonemerang/bone rush/drill run etc work. It makes no fucking sense for them NOT to work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 06:02:15 No.28679430 Report

Quoted By: >>28679975

>>28679375
but it does have wings, theyre just extremely tiny

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 06:10:20 No.28679534 Report

Quoted By: >>28679560 >>28681205

>>28679393
>extra hidden value

Obviously it would not be hidden you retard. And how the fuck is it "because reasons", do you not see the logic in this? How many Pokemon float, yet don't have the ground-type immunity? If anything, only floating pokemon with the explicit ability Levitate are immune to ground type "because reasons".

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 06:12:21 No.28679560 Report

Quoted By: >>28679651 >>28679680

>>28679534
>And how the fuck is it "because reasons"
because you're literally just giving random pokemon an extra free attribute with no downsides because "it doesn't make any sense xD"

>If anything, only floating pokemon with the explicit ability Levitate are immune to ground type "because reasons".
No. It's because they have the ability Levitate. It's a clean cut rule. It isn't just randomly immune to Ground. The same way fire Pokemon with Flash Fire aren't randomly immune to fire.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 06:19:05 No.28679651 Report

Quoted By: >>28679699

>>28679560
>game rules take precedent over world-building logic
Autistic fucking dumbass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 06:22:00 No.28679680 Report

Quoted By: >>28679747

>>28679560
>It's a clean cut rule
Airborne Status would be a clear-cut mechanic two.
>It isn't just randomly immune to Ground
How the fuck is it random? These pokemon either float or fly, it's a part of their design.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 06:23:00 No.28679699 Report

Quoted By: >>28679742

>>28679651
>game rules take precedent in a game that's already unrealistic anyway instead of autistic realism that makes the gameplay muddled and worse

Gee fucking wiz who woulda thought

What's your next bright idea, require feeding pokemon every few days or else they die and get permanently deleted from your game? Cuz it makes more sense am I right

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 06:27:42 No.28679742 Report

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>>28679699
>feeding pokemon every few days or else they die
That's not a bad idea for a nuzlocke mechanic, actually.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 06:28:34 No.28679747 Report

Quoted By: >>28679798

>>28679680
>Airborne Status would be a clear-cut mechanic two.

No. It would be arbitrary bullshit that some pokemon get but others randomly don't. There's zero reason why this should only apply to muh airborn pokemon and not other shit like aquatic non water pokemon randomly getting an electric weakness status or pokemon like drapion not having a fire weakness status

>How the fuck is it random?
Because you're choosing only airborne pokemon to get a special snowflake attribute and not any of the other tons of scenarios which equally don't make sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 06:32:01 No.28679785 Report

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Yeah Klefki could really use more resistances, that would make it even more fun to play against.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 06:33:28 No.28679798 Report

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>>28679747
Flying-type's immunity to ground is the only immunity that Game Freak has felt the need to pass onto a boatload of other clearly airborne non-Flying pokes via an ability. I think it's reasonable to grant a special attribute to this one status.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 06:35:21 No.28679813 Report

Quoted By: >>28679865

Why not make it so ground moves (and other moves?) can be flagged as being tied to the ground or not? It makes more sense to put the special property on the moves, seeing as there's already a check to see if something makes contact regardless of being physical or special.

Flying would just resist ground, flying types and pokemon with levitate would be immune to attacks tied to the ground like Earthquake. There's no reason for stuff like Bonemerang and Mudshot to have no effect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 06:39:27 No.28679865 Report

Quoted By: >>28679914

>>28679813
Game Freak has already made it clear with Thousand Arrows that they're never going to do something like this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 06:42:11 No.28679902 Report

Quoted By: >>28679975

>>28679375
>Pick related doesn't even have fucking wings
it does though

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 06:42:37 No.28679914 Report

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>>28679865
Shit, I didn't know about that one. I guess they probably want Zygarde to have something special then. Maybe they'll approach the subject again in a couple generations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 06:43:03 No.28679926 Report

Quoted By: >>28680070

this is such a horrible idea

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 06:46:20 No.28679975 Report

Quoted By: >>28682009

>>28679902
>>28679430
I have tried looking for a reference to the goddamn thing's wings, anon. No images, no in-game mentions.
If you can find something, please show me, because I've got nothing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 06:52:20 No.28680070 Report

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>>28679926
your existence was a horrible idea

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 09:02:46 No.28681205 Report

Quoted By: >>28681986

>>28679534
That's because they hover, and need ground to hover over. Obviously.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 10:43:36 No.28681958 Report

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>>28679375
>>28679408
How about just scrap Flying type/Levitate immunity for all ground moves except the obvious Earthquake/Magnitude and other ground shaking attacks

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 10:45:11 No.28681968 Report

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>>28679393
That's how most RPGs do it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 10:47:36 No.28681986 Report

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>>28681205
Shaking the ground wouldn't hurt them though, since they HOVER.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 10:50:16 No.28682003 Report

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>>28679375
I'm down with this

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 10:51:02 No.28682009 Report

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>>28679975
1. It can learn steel wing
2. The wings are tucked and are actualy visible on art

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 11:00:06 No.28682072 Report

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How about we do this:

>Remove Flying type's immunity to Ground type attacks, so Flying types can still be hit by moves like Bonemerang and grounded Flying types can still be hit by Earthquake (e.g. Dodrio)
>Remove the ability Levitate altogether and replace with better, actually useful abilities.
>Make flying Pokémon's model animations grounded so they don't look like absolute shit (one of /vp/'s biggest complains with the switch to 3D) to those where it's relevant (e.g. Swellow | e.g. not Vikavolt).
>Make a new variable that can be seen in the summary screen that makes the Pokémon immune to grounded attacks like Earthquake. Individually given to all Pokémon that can fly and hover.
>Make a new sup-type akin to Sound moves called Grounded moves, that flying and hovering Pokémon are immune to.
>When a grounded move is used, the Pokémon's model switches from its grounded animation to its flying animation.

And it wouldn't even make it difficult for the player to know which Pokémon is immune to Earthquake or not, it would really only take basic logic to determine which Pokémon it applies to. E.g. birds, Pokémon with wings and Pokémon that already permanently hover (e.g. Castform).

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