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Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 23:38:33 No.28695571 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>28695585 >>28695605 >>28695620 >>28695655 >>28696305 >>28697928 >>28698574 >>28699100 >>28699188

How do we fix Regigigas?
Hard mode: you can't replace Slow Start with any ability other than one that is purely detrimental (Truant, Defeatist, etc.)
Super Hard mode: you can't replace Slow Start at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 23:39:24 No.28695585 Report

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>>28695571
900 BST

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 23:40:15 No.28695600 Report

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Protect

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 23:40:51 No.28695605 Report

Quoted By: >>28696326

>>28695571
Protect. That cuts 3 of his turns, or hell even rest like what the fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 23:41:08 No.28695612 Report

Quoted By: >>28698375

Klutz, the least debilitating detrimental ability there is.

Probably OU do to shit STAB and inability to use items.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 23:41:36 No.28695619 Report

Quoted By: >>28698539

Fix Slow Start.
Make it so it doesn't fucking reset every time the fucker goes out.

Either that, or reverse the ability.
Something like Quick Finish or something.
He's at full strength when you toss him out, but he only has 5 turns in the entire battle before he "tires out" and gets a permanent slow start effect on himself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 23:41:36 No.28695620 Report

Quoted By: >>28695638

>>28695571
Slow start only halves speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 23:42:46 No.28695638 Report

Quoted By: >>28695650 >>28695651 >>28695654 >>28695664

>>28695620
It also halves attack, which is the real reason it's bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 23:43:24 No.28695650 Report

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>>28695638
I think anon is suggesting a fix

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 23:43:28 No.28695651 Report

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>>28695638

Anon...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 23:43:39 No.28695654 Report

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>>28695638
No, I meant that as a suggestion, for it to only halve speed
Guess I worded it badly

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 23:43:45 No.28695655 Report

Quoted By: >>28696288 >>28699303

>>28695571
Give it Skill Swap via tutor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 23:44:27 No.28695664 Report

Quoted By: >>28699230

1200 in each stat and Slow Start brings them each down to 100
>>28695638
I think he fixed slow start in his post

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 23:45:40 No.28695686 Report

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>Reduce Slow Start's Penalty to 3 turns, doesn't reset if switched out
Or
>Reduce Slow Start's Penalty to 3, counter sets to 2 if switched out
There you go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 23:47:41 No.28695741 Report

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Mega-Regigigas.
BST: 800
Ability: Build-up. Every damage dealing move must be charged, but will deal x1.25 damage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 23:47:53 No.28695743 Report

Quoted By: >>28695979 >>28696321

give it a signature drain punch with double the damage so there's pressure on the opponent to kill it fast or die.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 23:50:12 No.28695789 Report

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>>28695654
I almost added a "You're an idiot" reply to the original statement before I realised what you meant by it. Some of us are just slower than others

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 23:57:36 No.28695924 Report

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Starts with 50% speed and attack, like normal, but adds 10% to each every turn, until they're at 100% again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Sep 2016 00:01:17 No.28695979 Report

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>>28695743
I like this idea!
Also, just add to his movepool Protect and Restalk

to the one suggesting Skill Swap, it would be OP

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Sep 2016 00:04:39 No.28696044 Report

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Primal Regigigas
BST 770
Ancient Absorption: All moves require a recharge turn after use, but heal the user for 20% of damage dealt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Sep 2016 00:18:37 No.28696288 Report

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>>28695655
this, honestly

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Sep 2016 00:19:32 No.28696305 Report

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>>28695571
REMOVE SOME ATTACK....GIVE IT MORE defenses

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Sep 2016 00:20:24 No.28696321 Report

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>>28695743
It already has a signatur move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Sep 2016 00:20:31 No.28696326 Report

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>>28695605
>3 of his turns
Spamming protect might save 4 turns or even 5 if kek wills it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Sep 2016 00:31:14 No.28696532 Report

Quoted By: >>28697158

Do Truant and Slow Start serve a purpose anymore given that megas have higher attack stats?

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Anonymous Thu 22 Sep 2016 01:04:20 No.28697158 Report

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>>28696532
Slow Start really doesn't serve a purpose.

Truant, however, specifically on Slaking is for something unofficially dubbed the "Arcanine rule". Of all the pokemon who have a higher BST than Arcanine (555), all of them are either a Pseudo, a Legendary, or a Mega, except 2. Archeops and Slaking, both of which have a negative ability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Sep 2016 01:37:34 No.28697928 Report

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>>28695571
give it stall as a hidden ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Sep 2016 01:44:18 No.28698086 Report

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Slow start only lasts 3 turns and only halves speed, Now Regigigas is less shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Sep 2016 01:45:56 No.28698119 Report

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First, Crush Grip is a shit move, change it so it has 100 Base Power with 50% chance to Paralyze, like a Normal type Sacred Fire made to resemble Body Slam.

Second, let it learn Protect so it isn't total ass in doubles/triples (where you need Protect to mess up your opponent's prediction). Also let it learns rest since, lore-wise, it was sleeping for hundred of years before, it must be a champion sleeper.

Finally, have Slow Start not reset every time it switches out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Sep 2016 01:57:25 No.28698323 Report

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Slow Start now starts Regigigas with -5 to attack and speed, and +5 to defense and sp. defense. Each turn it gains 1 attack and speed and loses 1 defense and sp. defense.

Hard mode: It gets Stall instead.

Super hard mode: It gets Skill Swap.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Sep 2016 02:00:27 No.28698375 Report

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>>28695612
Stall would work better thematically.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Sep 2016 02:08:03 No.28698539 Report

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>>28695619
This is my thought, reverse slow start. Just make it so after 3 turns he takes a sharp reduction to all stats. So he'd make a great choice user but horrible at everything else and protect/sub shenanigans hard counter him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Sep 2016 02:08:03 No.28698540 Report

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I feel like Protect or ResTalk is the way to go, but wouldn't it make Gigas the ultimate setup bait as he stalls out his Slow Start? Granted, that can be a weakness for him, but it might be too much. I think I'd give him Taunt for good measure. He still has to survive, but it's not a free sweep.

Alternatively, I'd suggest making Slow Start gradually wear off. -2 stages to ATK and SPD for turns 1-2, -1 stage for turn 3 and 4, and fully wearing off on turn 5 or at the end of turn 5

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Anonymous Thu 22 Sep 2016 02:09:32 No.28698574 Report

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>>28695571
Skill Swap.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Sep 2016 02:09:39 No.28698576 Report

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Make Slow Start wear off after 3 turns.
Make Slow Start not reset after switching out.
Give it Protect/Detect.

Pick any two.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Sep 2016 02:11:14 No.28698610 Report

Quoted By: >>28698902

>>28697158
>Of all the pokemon who have a higher BST than Arcanine (555), all of them are either a Pseudo, a Legendary, or a Mega, except 2
holy shit why is Arcanine's BST so high

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Sep 2016 02:24:10 No.28698902 Report

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>>28698610

Because Arcanine is based on a mythical animal so it's almost legendary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Sep 2016 02:33:07 No.28699100 Report

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>>28695571
Besides retooling Slow Start (Giving 10% back each turn, keeping track of turns, using Haze-able stat stages, or just starting the battle asleep instead), the easiest way is to give it better moves. [Foo]tect, RestTalk, Heavy Slam... Why doesn't it have these again?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Sep 2016 02:35:17 No.28699155 Report

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Give him a signature Z Move that removes the Slow Start debuff

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Sep 2016 02:36:59 No.28699188 Report

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>>28695571
Would gamefreak actually ever fix Regigigas? i want to use him so bad but slow start is just so depressing

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Sep 2016 02:38:57 No.28699230 Report

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>>28695664
>tfw Seviper removed the ability of Regigigas in double

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Sep 2016 02:42:39 No.28699303 Report

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>>28695655
It doesn't really work. If another pokemon skill swaps him he keeps his shit stats and never gets out of slow start.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Sep 2016 02:48:23 No.28699438 Report

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Give it a new move.

Level Ground: All stat changes are reset, all abilities of active pokemon are negated.

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Anonymous Thu 22 Sep 2016 03:02:34 No.28699756 Report

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Keep the name Slow Start but makes the counter reduce by 2 if Gigas is damaged by any move.

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