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Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 04:48:29 No.28721188 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>28721618 >>28722013 >>28722049 >>28722142 >>28722150 >>28722742

ITT - Wasted potential

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Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 04:51:02 No.28721220 Report

Quoted By: >>28721281 >>28721335 >>28721397

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Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 04:54:58 No.28721261 Report

Quoted By: >>28721274

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Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 04:55:56 No.28721269 Report

Quoted By: >>28721651

Maybe the only Gym Leader that is easier in Yellow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 04:56:12 No.28721274 Report

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>>28721261
DAMMIT, I WAS JUST ABOUT TO POST THAT

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 04:56:48 No.28721279 Report

Quoted By: >>28721310

>Gym Leader's ace Pokemon isn't from their region.

Why is this allowed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 04:57:00 No.28721281 Report

Quoted By: >>28721456

>>28721220
>implying there was any potential to begin with

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Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 04:59:50 No.28721307 Report

Quoted By: >>28721328

>design a gym battle around an interesting new mechanic
>DUDE SURF LMAO

>redesign that batte, this time in a more complex battle system
>DUDE

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 05:00:02 No.28721310 Report

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>>28721279
Fucking Johto

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 05:01:01 No.28721326 Report

Quoted By: >>28721610 >>28721645 >>28722114 >>28723025

>no foongus
>no trubbish

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 05:01:03 No.28721328 Report

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>>28721307
>Swampert used Surf!
>Wailord used Water Spout!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 05:01:42 No.28721335 Report

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>>28721220
Agatha was doomed by the fact there were only 3 ghosts in the entire region, and she couldn't even get away with kinda-ghosts like Lance did.

I think they would have been better off giving her 2 Haunters, 2 Gengar, and a Marowak. At least then she'd be on theme.

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Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 05:03:14 No.28721361 Report

Quoted By: >>28721464 >>28722910

If the leaks are real

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 05:06:14 No.28721397 Report

Quoted By: >>28721732

>>28721220
>Last Gengar has Dream Eater with no Hypnosis

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 05:11:54 No.28721456 Report

Quoted By: >>28721711 >>28721942

>>28721281
Pure Water
>Squirtle/Wartortle/Blastoise
>Psyduck/Golduck
>Poliwag/Poliwhirl
>Seel
>Shellder
>Krabby/Kingler
>Horsea/Seadra
>Goldeen/Seaking
>Staryu
>Magikarp
>Vaporeon

Pure Electric
>Pikachu/Raichu
>Magnemite/Magneton (during Gen I)
>Voltorb/Electrode
>Electabuzz
>Jolteon

Pure Grass
>Tangela

Pure Poison
>Ekans/Arbok
>Nidoran-F/Nidorina
>Nidoran-M/Nidorino
>Grimer/Muk
>Koffing/Weezing

Pure Psychic
>Abra/Kadabra/Alakazam
>Drowzee/Hypno
>Mr. Mime
>Mewtwo
>Mew

Pure Fire
>Charmander/Charmeleon
>Vulpix/Ninetales
>Growlithe/Arcanine
>Ponyta/Rapidash
>Magmar
>Flareon

Pure Ground
>Sandshrew/Sandslash
>Diglett/Dugtrio
>Cubone/Marowak

Pure Bug
>Caterpie/Metapod
>Pinsir

Pure Normal
>Rattata/Raticate
>Clefairy/Clefable
>Jigglypuff/Wigglytuff
>Meowth/Persian
>Lickitung
>Chansey
>Kangaskhan
>Tauros
>Ditto
>Eevee
>Porygon
>Snorlax

Pure Fighting
>Mankey/Primeape
>Machop/Machoke/Machamp
>Hitmonlee
>Hitmonchan

Pure Dragon
>Dratini/Dragonair

No pure Rock, Flying, Ghost, or Ice. Only two Ghost-type moves in the entire game, and only one Dragon-type move. You'd think they could make more appropriate Gym Leaders and Elite Four.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 05:12:15 No.28721464 Report

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>>28721361
They were so beautiful, the best starters since Gen 4. If the leaks are real (and at this point they are...) this will be worse than Oshawott going quadrupedal and the abominations that were Delphox and Chesnaught

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 05:24:36 No.28721610 Report

Quoted By: >>28721645 >>28721658 >>28722114 >>28723025

>>28721326
>unovafags will ignore this on purpose
ayy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 05:25:26 No.28721618 Report

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>>28721188
Well is it wasted if Enerald makes it one of the best gyms?

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Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 05:26:49 No.28721635 Report

Quoted By: >>28721961

Lovable side characters, awesome evil organization, incredible worldbuilding and mythos, nice visuals, great music, but the game runs so FUCKING SLOW.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 05:27:24 No.28721645 Report

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>>28721326
>>28721610
I mean Koffing and singing it's name is literally their gym

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 05:27:40 No.28721651 Report

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>>28721269
It's on theme, fits perfectly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 05:28:06 No.28721658 Report

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>>28721610
Tbqh they don't really fit the theme of the gym and roxie's color scheme.

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Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 05:28:08 No.28721659 Report

Quoted By: >>28721673 >>28722491

I guess all of the E4 in general but her specially, I one shot every single one of her pokemons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 05:29:08 No.28721673 Report

Quoted By: >>28722069

>>28721659
God, I fail to comprehend why the Elite 4 couldn't have Megas in XY

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 05:33:15 No.28721711 Report

Quoted By: >>28722149

>>28721456
Gym Leader #1 (Bug) ~15
>Pinsir

Gym Leader #2 (Grass) ~25
>Tangela

Gym Leader #3 (Ground) ~35
>Sandslash
>Dugtrio
>Marowak

Gym Leader #4 (Poison) ~45
>Arbok
>Muk
>Weezing

Gym Leader #5 (Psychic) ~55
>Alakazam
>Hypno
>Mr. Mime

Gym Leader #6 (Fighting) ~65
>Primeape
>Machamp
>Hitmonlee
>Hitmonchan

Gym Leader #7 (Flying (remove their Normal typings)) ~75
>Pidgeot
>Fearow
>Farfetch'd
>Dodrio

Gym Leader #8 (round and pink Normal-types with moves of all types) ~85
>Clefable
>Wigglytuff
>Lickitung
>Chansey
>Ditto

Elite Four #1 (Water) ~95
>Golduck
>Kingler
>Seadra
>Seaking
>Vaporeon

Elite Four #2 (Electric) ~95
>Raichu
>Magneton
>Electrode
>Electabuzz
>Jolteon

Elite Four #3 (Fire) ~95
>Ninetales
>Arcanine
>Rapidash
>Magmar
>Flareon

Elite Four #4 (Normal) ~95
>Raticate
>Persian
>Kangaskhan
>Tauros
>Snorlax

Champion (Mixed) ~100
>Parasect (Bug/Grass)
>Poliwrath (Water/Fighting)
>Gengar (Ghost/Poison)
>Rhydon (Ground/Rock)
>Jynx (Ice/Psychic)
>Dragonite (Dragon/Flying)

And make gaining experience easier the further you progress so that you can actually somewhat keep up with these levels. Make beating the Champion actually mean something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 05:34:30 No.28721732 Report

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>>28721397
Funny thing is I just finished a Elite 4 run on the 3DS Red version and she did nothing but spam Dream Eater on the Gengars even when I wasn't even asleep. That, or spam Hypnosis when I was already asleep.

Jesus I forgot how bad the trainer AI and movepool was in Gen I.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 05:56:40 No.28721942 Report

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>>28721456
>No pure Rock, Flying, Ghost, or Ice
E4 teams are
>Half of Lorelai's team is Ice
>Half of Bruno's team is Rock
>Half of Agitha's team is Ghost
>Half of Lance's team is Flying

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 05:58:09 No.28721961 Report

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>>28721635
The visuals weren't too bad with the exception of that fucking hideous neon green grass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 06:02:26 No.28722013 Report

Quoted By: >>28722132 >>28722369

>>28721188
Just give him Electrike instead of Voltorb. Magneton is hard to beat without Marshtomp. Even Combusken can be taken down by Parafusion and Shock Wave

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 06:06:46 No.28722049 Report

Quoted By:

>>28721188
>/vp/

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 06:08:44 No.28722069 Report

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>>28721673
They don't even get rematches.

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Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 06:13:22 No.28722114 Report

Quoted By: >>28722519

>>28721326
>>28721610
>not playing on true mode

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 06:15:33 No.28722132 Report

Quoted By:

>>28722013
Give him Electrike, Manectric, Plusle, and Minun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 06:16:48 No.28722142 Report

Quoted By:

>>28721188
The entirety of Castelia.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 06:17:34 No.28722149 Report

Quoted By: >>28722268

>>28721711
Aside from your retarded level curve that's pretty solid

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 06:17:34 No.28722150 Report

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>>28721188
well, he still the hardest gym leader in hoeen to me.
Myabe Norman is near and no one else

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 06:29:44 No.28722268 Report

Quoted By: >>28723003

>>28722149
I didn't put much thought into the level curve, except for early on because having Gym Leaders with only a single Pokémon is kinda dumb unless that single Pokémon is strong by a large amount. But the jump should have been decreased with each additional Pokémon. I ordered the Gyms by how many Pokémon the Gym Leader would own, so that's why Bug and Grass are #1 and #2 since that's just using pure types.

How about
>Gym #1 ~15
>Gym #2 ~25
>Gym #3 ~32
>Gym #4 ~39
>Gym #5 ~46
>Gym #6 ~51
>Gym #7 ~56
>Gym #8 ~61
>Elite Four #1 ~66
>Elite Four #2 ~71
>Elite Four #3 ~76
>Elite Four #4 ~81
>Champion ~85

That would put the final boss of Gen I just above Gen II Red in terms of difficulty, though it's still 20 levels above the typical Gen I Champion maximum.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 06:39:50 No.28722369 Report

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>>28722013
They fixed him in emerald. There he swaps the Magnemite for Electrike AND gets a Manectric

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 06:55:37 No.28722491 Report

Quoted By: >>28722564

>>28721659
I like how they had to cherrypick VERY CAREFULLY to avoid every powerful Dragon type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 06:59:52 No.28722519 Report

Quoted By: >>28722561

>>28722114
This one is loads of fun in Challenge mode, venipede at that level is quite deadly unless you use magnemite.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 07:04:31 No.28722561 Report

Quoted By:

>>28722519
Yup, that basically guaranteed 130 power move that early in the game coupled with protect is insane if you don't use items

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 07:05:06 No.28722564 Report

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>>28722491
Well, Dragalge and Noivern make sense. What's annoying is that the champion took Goodra from her.

That said, it's also annoying since your rival uses an Altaria.

Seriously though, this is the regional dex where literally EVERY non legendary dragon type was available.

It really feels bad, especially when the previous Dragon members of the elite 4 were never afraid of doubling up on Dragon psuedos.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 07:14:10 No.28722628 Report

Quoted By: >>28722722

How is that Watson wasted potential? It has para-fusion, a decent unavoidable stab move and a move that handles anything that resists electricity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 07:30:01 No.28722722 Report

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>>28722628
No Manectric.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 07:32:48 No.28722742 Report

Quoted By: >>28722801

>>28721188
>Literally the only gym leader in R/S whose ace Pokemon isn't from Gen III
How could they fuck up so badly?

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Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 07:40:50 No.28722791 Report

Quoted By: >>28722808 >>28723041

WHY

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 07:42:12 No.28722801 Report

Quoted By: >>28722880

>>28722742
It's even worse because manetric is on the route before that gym

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 07:43:34 No.28722808 Report

Quoted By: >>28723041

>>28722791
I don't get it

gen 2 ADDED A GHOST TYPE

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 07:53:07 No.28722880 Report

Quoted By:

>>28722801
So are Electrike, Plusle, and Minun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 07:57:06 No.28722910 Report

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>>28721361
>rowlet's evo is a bro, but fuck the other two.

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Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 08:00:03 No.28722930 Report

Quoted By: >>28722943

Why does nobody mention this

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 08:01:50 No.28722943 Report

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>>28722930
What I'm getting here is that she's trying to copy Lance, so at least they put SOME thought into it, as opposed to Wattson who is missing extremely obvious Pokémon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 08:10:55 No.28723003 Report

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>>28722268
E4 LV 66 Champion 71

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Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 08:14:48 No.28723025 Report

Quoted By:

>>28721326
>>28721610
I agree that she should have been switched with that fuckhead Marlon and had a full team, but whatever. Fight her in the PWT if you want to experience her fully-evolved Poison team. She's still the best Gym Leader in the entire franchise

>this will trigger somebody

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 08:17:38 No.28723041 Report

Quoted By:

>>28722791
>>28722808
"""""Generation""""" 2 was more of an expansion/sequel to Gen 1. They never intended it to be a full new Generation of Pokémon, that never happened until Gen 3.

You can maybe say they should have updated the teams in HG/SS, but they probably wanted to keep things the same for nostalgia. Not saying I agree with that sentiment, just giving the context and explanation for why Johto trainers still mostly use Gen 1 Pokemon.

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