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Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 12:51:04 No.28763900 View View Reply Original Report

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GODDAMMIT
I HATE THIS FUCKING FAGGOT
IF YOU DON'T HAVE A GODDAMN GROUND TYPE MOVE AND FASTER SPEED THAN IT YOU'RE JUST FUCKED AND IT SWEEPS YOUR ENTIRE TIME
CAN'T EVEN USE WATER TYPE MOVES AGAINST IT
FUCKING BULLSHIT AAAAAAAAAAAAA

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 12:52:10 No.28763913 Report

Quoted By: >>28763931 >>28766316 >>28766377

>Golduck used Scald

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 12:52:15 No.28763914 Report

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>>28763900
Calm down, Kyogre.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 12:53:59 No.28763931 Report

Quoted By: >>28763964 >>28765361

>>28763913
golduck is fucking garbage though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 12:58:42 No.28763964 Report

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>>28763931
thats the point

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 13:01:08 No.28763981 Report

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>psyduck used water blast
ez

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 13:02:05 No.28763990 Report

Quoted By: >>28764044

>>28763900
Just get Sunflora kek, for the sole purpose of getting this fucker killed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 13:04:35 No.28764014 Report

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Just get your own CressDon core with Skill Swap, what's so difficult about that ?_?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 13:05:19 No.28764023 Report

Quoted By: >>28766000

>Garchomp used Earthquake
ezpz

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 13:06:47 No.28764038 Report

Quoted By: >>28764080 >>28764104 >>28766208

Hmm, if only there was a pokemon that resists one if its STABs and is immune to the other, while also having super-effective STAB, reliable recovery and access to Defog...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 13:07:43 No.28764044 Report

Quoted By: >>28764101 >>28764117 >>28766242

>>28763900
>>28763990
Or, you know, just switch in your own Kyogre, Lugia, or Arceus (Water, Ground, or Dragon) and you're fine?

Giratina-O and Landorus can also do well, as well as your own Groudon and Lati twins.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 13:07:44 No.28764047 Report

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>>28763900
>Rayquaza used surf

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 13:08:13 No.28764057 Report

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>>28763900
inb4 le copypasta maymay

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 13:08:34 No.28764059 Report

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>>28763900
Preach, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 13:10:49 No.28764080 Report

Quoted By: >>28764092

>>28764038
GARCHOMP IS STILL BETTER

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 13:12:06 No.28764092 Report

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>>28764080
>doesn't even resist ground

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 13:12:57 No.28764101 Report

Quoted By: >>28766219

>>28764044
>using legendaries on your team

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 13:13:17 No.28764104 Report

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>>28764038
Never forget.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 13:14:01 No.28764117 Report

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>>28764044
Yea but Solar Power Sunflora would make short work of Groundon and that would be way funnier.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 15:03:12 No.28765361 Report

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>>28763931
Why would you disrespect literally me in this way?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 15:49:13 No.28766000 Report

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>>28764023
With that defense stat?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 15:51:14 No.28766038 Report

Quoted By: >>28766113 >>28766198

Would a garchomp with EQ even OHKO?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 15:55:43 No.28766113 Report

Quoted By: >>28766253

>>28766038
P-Don has 160 Defense. In no universe would that happen. Plus, Ground can simply spam Solar Beam on Garchomp since it's neutral to Grass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 15:57:30 No.28766135 Report

Quoted By: >>28766204 >>28766310

>>28763900
Allow me to introduce you this Fug set

Rayquaza @ Choice Band
Ability: Air Lock
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Dragon Ascent
- Earthquake/Waterfall
- V-create
- Extreme Speed

Outspeeds all variants and kills it with waterfall

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 16:01:25 No.28766183 Report

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>>28763900

This is what you get for not playing OU :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 16:03:12 No.28766198 Report

Quoted By: >>28766221

>>28766038
Unless the PDon is fully invested into HP and Phys Def, Garchomp 2HKOs with EQ. PDon can't OHKO it either even with maximum offense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 16:03:37 No.28766204 Report

Quoted By: >>28766281 >>28766283 >>28766293 >>28766330

>>28766135
>water
?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 16:03:54 No.28766208 Report

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>>28764038
funny that despite getting shit on all the time, it's a legitimate answer to just pdon

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 16:04:55 No.28766219 Report

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>>28764101
>OP talks about Groudon "sweeping your entire team".
>Gives appropriate tier-based counters to said Pokemon.
>Complains about legendaries.

Somebody is the ignorant mark who doesn't get that legendary =/= good.

I'll extend with your pretense, though; you can use Flygon / MegaMence and basically do the same thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 16:05:01 No.28766221 Report

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>>28766198
Too bad you can't do much with Garchomp in ubers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 16:07:33 No.28766242 Report

Quoted By: >>28766349

>>28764044
>Groudon used Stone Edge!
>Groudon used Precipice Blades!

The reason PG is so stupid is because most of his switch-ins get fucked up if he hits them with the right move because of his sheer power. It requires niche stuff like not Mega-Evolving Fug so you can keep Sky Lock and kill him with Waterfall or weird shit like that, which hampers most Ubers teams.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 16:08:44 No.28766253 Report

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It's definitely a fucking monster, by far the most powerful thing in Ubers with Xerneas being the only other thing even close. Giratina-O can generally beat it 1v1 though, you resist fire and you're immune to Earthquake. It doesn't take draco meteors or repeated hits from Shadow Ball particularly well if you invest in special attack, or you could Toxic it if you want.. Unless you only switch in after it's already at +2 you should win, and even in that case it's reliant on Stone Edge rolls, or having to run Dragon Claw, which is pretty rare.

>>28766113

Why the fuck would you use solar beam when you can just hit it with STAB Earthquake or Precipice Blades

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 16:10:32 No.28766281 Report

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>>28766204
>Air Lock

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 16:10:36 No.28766283 Report

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>>28766204
Air lock removes all weather effects you dense motherfucker

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 16:11:03 No.28766293 Report

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>>28766204
Do you know what air lock does?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 16:12:25 No.28766310 Report

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>>28766135
Also forces Xerneas out too

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 16:12:45 No.28766316 Report

Quoted By: >>28766330 >>28766353

>>28763913
>The Water-type attack evaporated in the harsh sunlight!
Oh I'm laffin

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 16:13:20 No.28766330 Report

Quoted By: >>28766468

>>28766204
>>28766316

Air lock nullifies it, so does cloud Nine. All weather effects include that.

I run a gastrodon lickilicky core on my VGC team to fuck all Primals and mega fuck at the same time. OP, AV Lickilicky, Golduck, rayquaza and flygon are your best answers in singles. You can also run an skill swaper or worry seeder, even Gastro acid would do. Any flying/levitating dragon can be a soft check, also Intimidate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 16:14:19 No.28766349 Report

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>>28766242
Rayquaza checks both Pdon and Xerneas, both gets killed with SR up and both are forced out, if a single mon checks two S ranks then I think it doesn't hamper a team at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 16:14:43 No.28766353 Report

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>>28766316
>not knowing what cloud nine is
Oh I'm laffin

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 16:16:23 No.28766377 Report

Quoted By: >>28766442 >>28766451 >>28766478 >>28766548

>>28763913

>252+ SpA Life Orb Golduck Scald vs. 104 HP / 96 SpD Groudon: 296-351 (80.6 - 95.6%)

uh anon....

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 16:20:04 No.28766442 Report

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>>28766377

lol

I bet Surf isn't guaranteed to do the job either. You'd have to risk Hydro Pump.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 16:20:48 No.28766451 Report

Quoted By: >>28766478 >>28766537 >>28766548

>>28766377
>252+ SpA Life Orb Golduck Scald vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Primal Groudon: 468-551 (115.8 - 136.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
FTFY

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 16:21:19 No.28766468 Report

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>>28766330
i'm glad you mentioned lickilicky, its something i feel people seriously sleep on when it comes to checking weather threats

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 16:21:43 No.28766478 Report

Quoted By: >>28766505 >>28766578

>>28766377
>>28766451
I am confuse

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 16:23:09 No.28766505 Report

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>>28766478
First calc is on the regular Groudon, second is on a Primal

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Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 16:23:44 No.28766519 Report

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>>28763900
Hi

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 16:24:23 No.28766537 Report

Quoted By: >>28766570

>>28766451
yeah let me waste a slot on my team for a fucking life orb golduck just in i see literally 1 pokemon on my opponent's team
good strats

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 16:24:57 No.28766548 Report

Quoted By: >>28766628 >>28766733

>>28766451
>>28766377

Now we just have to ask if Pdon can outspeed and OHKO golduck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 16:26:05 No.28766570 Report

Quoted By: >>28766593

>>28766537
Or just use one of the many other options that can take it down

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 16:26:18 No.28766578 Report

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>>28766478

primal groudon adds fire, and therefore is weaker to water.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 16:26:39 No.28766583 Report

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>>28763900
Soak and GigaDrain.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 16:27:16 No.28766593 Report

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>>28766570
Exactly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 16:28:54 No.28766628 Report

Quoted By: >>28766664

>>28766519
>still risks burn by lava plume
>takes serious damage from precipice blades
its not a terrible check but you can still do better

>>28766548
the biggest problem is that its performance is deplorable the moment pdon is KO'd, on the off chance it does manage to do this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 16:30:31 No.28766664 Report

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>>28766628
Garchomp isn't the best counter, but I run him on my team anyway and he never has much trouble taking down a Primal Groudon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 16:34:40 No.28766733 Report

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>>28766548
It's Golducks 85 vs. PDon's 90 base speed.
>252 Atk Primal Groudon Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Golduck: 256-303 (85 - 100.6%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO
>252+ Atk Primal Groudon Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Golduck: 282-333 (93.6 - 110.6%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO
>252 Atk Primal Groudon Precipice Blades vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Golduck: 307-363 (101.9 - 120.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Calcs are for 1v1. Taking damage spread into consideration, it probably can't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 16:36:26 No.28766772 Report

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>>28763900
>legendaries
>being used in battle
That's why you're supposed to make friends, anon. Not play with 12-year-old strangers.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 16:36:31 No.28766774 Report

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>>28763900
A Heatran with Air Balloon is a perfect counter to this Red nigger.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 16:40:31 No.28766868 Report

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>>28766772
Kek.

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