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Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 20:55:10 No.28884999 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>28885040 >>28885053 >>28885175 >>28885449 >>28885476 >>28885555 >>28885672 >>28885976 >>28886655 >>28889921 >>28891740 >>28891775

Is it not true that Gamefreak only releases shitmons before launch? Will any of the Sun-Moon Pokemon we've seen so far actually be any good in battle?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 20:58:33 No.28885040 Report

Quoted By: >>28885052

>>28884999
>Conkledurr
>Krookodile
>shitmons
Also they seem to be putting an emphasis on having good Pokémon this go around.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 20:59:29 No.28885052 Report

Quoted By: >>28885068 >>28885072 >>28885350

>>28885040
Conkeldurr and Kroododile are both outclassed though, they are vital.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 20:59:29 No.28885053 Report

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>>28884999
>conkledurr
>shitmon

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 20:59:40 No.28885056 Report

Quoted By: >>28885072

>Conkeldurr, Krookodile, Scrafty, pre-evos of Chandelure and Ferrothorn
>Shitmons

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:00:00 No.28885059 Report

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Wishiwashi?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:00:50 No.28885068 Report

Quoted By: >>28885090

>>28885052
And everything is outclassed by Mega-Rayquaza, they're still great.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:00:56 No.28885072 Report

Quoted By: >>28891779

>>28885052
they aren't vital**

>>28885056
>pre-evos of Chandelure and Ferrothorn
>pre-evos

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:01:58 No.28885090 Report

Quoted By: >>28885106

>>28885068
>weavile used ice shard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:02:49 No.28885106 Report

Quoted By: >>28885124

>>28885090
>Mega-Rayquaza used Extreme Speed

Ok.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:04:13 No.28885124 Report

Quoted By: >>28885142 >>28885154 >>28885186

>>28885106
>weavile used fakeout
>weavile used ice shard
>mega fug fainted
Theres no denying that krookodile and conkelldur are shit because everything is outclassed by mega fug.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:05:31 No.28885142 Report

Quoted By: >>28885158

>>28885124
>weavile used fakeout
>weavile used ice shard
>mega fug fainted

What did he mean by this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:06:32 No.28885154 Report

Quoted By: >>28885176

>>28885124
>Mega Ray
Do you even know how Delta Stream works ? Btw, Weavile still gets destroyed by E-Speed the next turn after Fake Out.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:06:47 No.28885158 Report

Quoted By: >>28885196

>>28885142
>everything is outclassed by Mega-Rayquaza
>confirms that conkelldurr and krookodile are shit
wew

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:07:59 No.28885175 Report

Quoted By: >>28885190

>>28884999
Palpitoad, Frillish, and Ducklett are the only shitmons I see

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:08:15 No.28885176 Report

Quoted By: >>28885319

>>28885154
>Do you even know how Delta Stream works ?
Do you know what typing Rayquaza is?

Rayquaza isnt even a Sun-Moon pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:08:43 No.28885186 Report

Quoted By: >>28885210 >>28885319

>>28885124
>252+ Atk Choice Band Mega Rayquaza Extreme Speed vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Weavile: 260-306 (92.5 - 108.8%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO
>252 Atk Life Orb Weavile Fake Out vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Rayquaza: 55-65 (15.6 - 18.5%) -- possible 6HKO
>252 Atk Life Orb Weavile Ice Shard vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Rayquaza in Strong Winds: 164-195 (46.7 - 55.5%) -- 71.5% chance to 2HKO
Here's your (You), Weavile loses every time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:09:23 No.28885190 Report

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>>28885175
>vanillite
>rubbish

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:09:57 No.28885196 Report

Quoted By: >>28885210 >>28885223

>>28885158
How does that confirm it? Are you retarded?
Or are you even more retarded and trying to say that that's what I was implying?

My point is that, yes some Pokémon are better but they're not shitmons by any means - but I guess if your definition of shitmon is "not as good as the best Pokémon", then yeah there's a good chance 99% of the Gen 7 Pokémon will be garbage.

Can you go back to your room and take your medicine now?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:10:45 No.28885210 Report

Quoted By: >>28885246 >>28885252 >>28885254 >>28885282 >>28885890

>>28885186
>Weaville has quick claw
>Weaville used ice shard
Heres your Mega fugg losing.

>>28885186
>>28885196
>same fagging this hard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:11:59 No.28885223 Report

Quoted By: >>28885316

>>28885196
>conkelldurr and kroododile are outclassed and shitty
>HURR DURR EVERYTHING IS OUTCLASSED BY A POKEMON THAT IS LEGENDARY AND MEGA
You look dumb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:13:31 No.28885246 Report

Quoted By: >>28885317

>>28885210
We have reached kindergarten levels of arguing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:13:43 No.28885252 Report

Quoted By:

>>28885210

>using quick claw

Kay why es

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:13:54 No.28885254 Report

Quoted By:

>>28885210
>Weaville has quick claw
>Weaville used ice shard
What DO you mean by this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:15:11 No.28885282 Report

Quoted By: >>28885317 >>28885318 >>28885319

>>28885210
just for you I set Mega Ray to 0/0/0 IV defenses

252 Atk Life Orb Weavile Ice Shard vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mega Rayquaza in Strong Winds: 187-221 (58.4 - 69%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

meanwhile Mega Ray 1HKOs with Dragon Ascent

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:17:17 No.28885316 Report

Quoted By: >>28885344

>>28885223
Dude, you really can't understand a simple analogy? Just because M-Ray outclasses Arceus doesn't make Arceus bad: if you wanna go with Smogon rules, Conk and Krook are UU, and Conk was OU for the longest time. Yeah they're not the BEST out there but they're far from being shitmons.
In fact, they're some of the strongest Pokémon you can get on your team if you play casually.
Here, I'll give you a list of actual shitmons so you can fuck off: Ledian, Maractus, Dewgong, Sudowoodo...

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Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:17:20 No.28885317 Report

Quoted By: >>28885335 >>28885382

>>28885246
>>28885282
>dedenne use nuzzle
Wow you're dumb. You found a pokemon who is really strong.

That must mean that Conkelldurr and Kroododile aren't outclassed by other mons with the same type!

Good diversion.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:17:24 No.28885318 Report

Quoted By: >>28885347 >>28885359 >>28885431

>>28885282
Weavile crits with both Fake out and Ice shard.
Checkmate atheists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:17:31 No.28885319 Report

Quoted By: >>28885359 >>28885392

>>28885176
Excuse me while I laugh a bit.
And also >>28885186
>>28885282

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:18:29 No.28885335 Report

Quoted By:

>>28885317
Keep moving those golaposts

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:18:31 No.28885337 Report

Quoted By:

>Prankster Whimshicott
>Own tempo Liligant
>Krookodile
>Conkledurr
>Chandelure

>Shitmons
Wash your mounth with Soap

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:18:53 No.28885344 Report

Quoted By: >>28885389

>>28885316
>Dude, you really can't understand a simple analogy? Just because M-Ray outclasses Arceus doesn't make Arceus bad
Arceus can change it types you pathetic moron.

You have no point, face it.

Just because Mega Ray is strong doesn't mean Conkelldurr and Krookodile are worthy in battle. Get over it. You have no connection no analogy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:19:01 No.28885347 Report

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>>28885318
And what are the chances for that to happen ? Tought so. Here's your (you)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:19:11 No.28885350 Report

Quoted By: >>28885387

>>28885052
>Conkeldurr and Kroododile are both outclassed though
who the fuck outclassed Conkeldurr in Gen 5?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:19:55 No.28885359 Report

Quoted By: >>28885392

>>28885319
>>28885318
Excuse me while I laugh a lot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:21:31 No.28885382 Report

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>>28885317
I wasn't talking about Conkeldurr or Krookodile

and anyways Conk isn't really outclassed by anything, it's just that its niche isn't too useful in OU

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:21:48 No.28885387 Report

Quoted By: >>28885414 >>28885419

>>28885350
We are talking about Sun-Moon.

Who is a Pokemon pre-released and still any good? Just 1 Smogon-Bird.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:21:50 No.28885389 Report

Quoted By: >>28885413 >>28885664

>>28885344
>Arceus can change it types you pathetic moron.

Literally has nothing to do with anything. You were saying that Conkeldurr and Krookodile are shitmons. I don't care that they are outclassed by Pokémon of the same type - I never said otherwise.
I'm just saying they're not shitmons, so you have no reason to believe the Pokémon revealed in Sun & Moon so far will be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:21:58 No.28885392 Report

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>>28885359
Was trying to disprove him at >>28885319, but whatever.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:23:11 No.28885413 Report

Quoted By: >>28885477 >>28885483 >>28885496

>>28885389
>Literally has nothing to do with anything.
>a pokemons type has nothing to do with its battle effectiveness
Wew

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:23:12 No.28885414 Report

Quoted By: >>28885443

>>28885387
Yes, but the thread asked if they only released shitmons, which is completely false as they weren't shitmons at the time they were relased

UU isn't a shitmon you faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:23:39 No.28885419 Report

Quoted By: >>28885443

>>28885387
Talonflame does not technically outclass Conkeldurr, though. Are you off your meds?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:24:22 No.28885431 Report

Quoted By:

>>28885318
that's still only like a 50% chance to 2hko

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:25:03 No.28885443 Report

Quoted By: >>28885460 >>28885466 >>28885485

>>28885414
>continuing to cite fake Smogon tiers.
Conkeldurr and Krookodile were both shitmons upon released. outclassed by previous gens.

>>28885419
>Talonflame does not technically outclass Conkeldurr, though
I never said it did, maybe you should get some sleep?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:25:31 No.28885449 Report

Quoted By: >>28885482

>>28884999
Conkeldurr wasn't a shitmon during release, you idiot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:26:02 No.28885460 Report

Quoted By: >>28885482

>>28885443
>Conkeldurr and Krookodile were both shitmons upon released. outclassed by previous gens
No?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:26:29 No.28885466 Report

Quoted By: >>28885482

>>28885443
Conkeldurr is literally a better Machamp you stupid faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:27:12 No.28885476 Report

Quoted By: >>28885482

>>28884999
>Conkeldurr
>Krookodile
>Whimsicott
>Fillish/Jellicent
>Sygilliph
>Scrafty
>the Chandelure line
>the Ferroseed line
>shitmons
I'm assuming you're a OU tryhard, aren't you ?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:27:12 No.28885477 Report

Quoted By: >>28885496

>>28885413
At this point you're reaching a little too hard for your (You)s anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:27:58 No.28885482 Report

Quoted By: >>28885520 >>28885523 >>28885530 >>28885532 >>28885533

>>28885449
>>28885460
>>28885466
>>28885476
Pretty pathetic to watch autists defend their favorite pokemon when there is no reason to.

>Is it not true that Gamefreak only releases shitmons before launch? Will any of the Sun-Moon Pokemon we've seen so far actually be any good in battle?
2 VERY easy questions to answer. Yet the autists cant help themselves.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:28:06 No.28885483 Report

Quoted By: >>28885496

>>28885413

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:28:12 No.28885485 Report

Quoted By:

>>28885443
why'd you post a photo of talonflame in response to my question then?

Who else is a slow bulky fighting type that can tank hits and dish back damage that outclasses Conkeldurr? Machamp is in the same tier now but was outclassed by Conkeldurr earlier. Hariyama isn't even considered a contender.

Expand that role to a slow bulky fighting type that also has access to reliable recovery and you have nobody else bar ResTalk Machamp, which nobody uses now

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:29:00 No.28885496 Report

Quoted By: >>28885542

>>28885477
>>28885483
Sorry you keep posting ignorant things like typing
>>28885413
>Literally has nothing to do with anything.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:30:29 No.28885520 Report

Quoted By: >>28885555

>>28885482
because your claims aren't the least bit valid. Conkeldurr wasn't a shitmon circa Gen 5, nor is it that bad to date.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:30:34 No.28885523 Report

Quoted By: >>28885555

>>28885482
Maybe they would answer your question if you didn't went full retard in the thread ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:30:59 No.28885530 Report

Quoted By: >>28885555

>>28885482
>Says Conkeldurr is a shitmon
>gets proven wrong
>XDDDDDDDDDDDDD nerrrds

>Is it not true that Gamefreak only releases shitmons before launch?
This question has been answered multiple times in this thread. The answer is no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:31:07 No.28885532 Report

Quoted By: >>28885555

>>28885482
Whimsicott and Conkeldurr were both huge threats at the time of release

so Game Freak doesn't only release shitmons before launch

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:31:09 No.28885533 Report

Quoted By: >>28885555

>>28885482
Gen 5 actively outclassed many Pokemon

Machamp comes to mind

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:32:20 No.28885542 Report

Quoted By: >>28885575 >>28885664

>>28885496
Yes, it doesn't have anything to do with my point, that you chose to completely ignore to shitpost instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:33:10 No.28885555 Report

Quoted By: >>28885570 >>28885670

>>28885520
>>28885523
>>28885530
>>28885532
>>28885533
>THIS much autism
>ignoring the questions to complete an autistic rage
>ignore that majority of pokemon in picture are shitmons and/or not even fully evolved.

>>28884999
>Will any of the Sun-Moon Pokemon we've seen so far actually be any good in battle?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:34:10 No.28885570 Report

Quoted By: >>28885594

>>28885555
stupid questions deserve stupid answers or no answers at all, fag

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:34:16 No.28885575 Report

Quoted By: >>28885636

>>28885542
>typing has nothing to do with battle effectiveness
>Yes, it doesn't
I'm not replying to you because you're worse than Gen 5 autists.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:35:24 No.28885594 Report

Quoted By:

>>28885570
Hey, its your time.

My bumps, you're the one who looks stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:37:54 No.28885636 Report

Quoted By: >>28885664

>>28885575
>typing has nothing to do with battle effectiveness

I never said that though. I said that "A Pokémon outclassing another Pokémon with the same typing" was irrelevant to the point I was making: that Conkeldurr and Krookodile aren't shitmons.
Fucking learn to read, you stupid baiting cunt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:39:43 No.28885664 Report

Quoted By: >>28885708

>>28885636
>I never said that though.
>>28885542
>Yes, it doesn't have anything to do with my point
>>28885389
>Arceus can change it types you pathetic moron.
>Literally has nothing to do with anything.
Wew

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:40:00 No.28885670 Report

Quoted By: >>28885704

>>28885555
>THIS much autism
This much shitposting
>ignoring the questions to complete an autistic rage
Your question has already been answered, you're the one you chose to ignore it
>ignore that majority of pokemon in picture are shitmons and/or not even fully evolved.
Your question was "Is it not true that Gamefreak only releases shitmons before launch?", not all of them are shitmons, so the answer is obviously not.
Keep moving those goalposts.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:40:06 No.28885672 Report

Quoted By: >>28885704

>>28884999
>Sigilyph
>Whimsicott
>Shit mons

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:42:16 No.28885704 Report

Quoted By: >>28885736 >>28885770

>>28885670
>Will any of the Sun-Moon Pokemon we've seen so far actually be any good in battle?
>Your question was "Is it not true that Gamefreak only releases shitmons before launch?"
Tell me more about my questions.

>>28885672
DESU Whimsicott is the only non-shitmon on there and thats because of Gen 6 fairy typing.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:42:34 No.28885708 Report

Quoted By: >>28885741

>>28885664
I had a last autistic bait argument fun anon, but it's getting late.
See you in /v/hell when /vp/ is deleted. :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:44:25 No.28885736 Report

Quoted By: >>28885762

>>28885704
At this point you're simply spinning around your question despite the answer already been given, trying to be all those (you)'s. And thanks for confirming something else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:44:36 No.28885741 Report

Quoted By: >>28885788

>>28885708
I'm not baiting, this was a legitimate string of questions until Gen 5 children came in to defend themselves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:45:43 No.28885762 Report

Quoted By: >>28885797

>>28885736
>you're simply spinning around your question despite the answer already been given
You seem personally invested in this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:46:23 No.28885770 Report

Quoted By: >>28885793

>>28885704
Are you denying that you asked "Is it not true that Gamefreak only releases shitmons before launch?"?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:47:06 No.28885788 Report

Quoted By: >>28885812

>>28885741
If so your reading comprehension is really poor and I advise going back to middle school. ;^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:47:23 No.28885793 Report

Quoted By: >>28885845

>>28885770
Are you denying
>Will any of the Sun-Moon Pokemon we've seen so far actually be any good in battle?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:47:35 No.28885797 Report

Quoted By:

>>28885762
>You seem personally invested in this.
You seem to be projecting.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:48:26 No.28885812 Report

Quoted By:

>>28885788
Middle school, back when you played Black-White?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:50:35 No.28885845 Report

Quoted By: >>28886353

>>28885793
I answered to the only part of your post I had an answer to.
You asked Is it not true that Gamefreak only releases shitmons before launch?, the answer is no.
Answering to "Will any of the Sun-Moon Pokemon we've seen so far actually be any good in battle?" would simply be speculation. There is no way to know how useful the pokemon revealed so far will be, without knowing their stats.

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Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:53:18 No.28885879 Report

Quoted By: >>28886304

Is OP the same dude from yesterday that got buttblasted because his definition of "Generation" was factually incorrect?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:53:50 No.28885890 Report

Quoted By:

>>28885210
You do know that Quick Claw only works in your priority bracket, right? Fug still outspeeds.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 21:59:27 No.28885976 Report

Quoted By:

>>28884999
No - look at Lucario, Lugia, and gen 3 Lat@s.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 22:20:14 No.28886304 Report

Quoted By:

>>28885879
I wouldn't be surpised. This OP is just as stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 22:23:36 No.28886353 Report

Quoted By:

>>28885845
Without knowing their stats, all their abilities, and their move pools.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 22:25:56 No.28886397 Report

Quoted By:

>another stupid thread on /vp/
Is anyone even surprised anymore?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Oct 2016 22:47:16 No.28886655 Report

Quoted By: >>28891751

>>28884999
>Whimsicott
>Scrafty
>Krookodile
>Conkledurr
>Crustle
>Litwik
>Tynamo
>Ferroseed
>shitmons
bruh

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 00:39:20 No.28888320 Report

Quoted By:

Another thread gone off the rails

We really can't tell whether something will be good or bad. Talonflame and Diggersby are prime examples.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 02:19:53 No.28889921 Report

Quoted By:

>>28884999
No because Conkeldurr is a top tier threat.

From the reveal so far, there are lots of new interesting abilities but we cant say for sure yet

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 05:07:18 No.28891740 Report

Quoted By:

>>28884999
>Krookodile
>Shitmon

OP you just went full retard there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 05:08:53 No.28891751 Report

Quoted By:

>>28886655
Ferrothorn and Conkeldurr are the only non-shitmons there.

Though "Good luck im behind 7 Substitutes" is strong, it's only strong the same reason Brave Bird is - One of the highest speed stats of its typing coupled with a Priority-enhancing ability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 05:12:23 No.28891775 Report

Quoted By:

>>28884999

Is it true that Competitive players only see Pokémon as weapon of mass destruction and unlimited power?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 05:12:29 No.28891779 Report

Quoted By:

>>28885072
We don't generally refer to prevos as shitmons if their evolutions are good. It's the final stage that matters unless the prevo is better with eviolite for whatever reason.

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