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Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 18:41:18 No.28898896 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>28899157 >>28899399 >>28899799 >>28899997 >>28901128

With Pokebank compatibility coming to the virtual console, what are some moveset + ability combos that will come from bringing gen I mons into the current gen?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 19:00:41 No.28899157 Report

Quoted By: >>28904646

>>28898896
Fissure Machamp

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 19:19:15 No.28899399 Report

Quoted By: >>28904646

>>28898896
Fissure Machamp

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 19:19:26 No.28899404 Report

Quoted By: >>28900276

Fissure Machamp
Solarbeam Lapras
Pretty much everything else is either pointless gimmick(Bubblebeam Persian), or can be obtained via past-gen tutors.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 19:42:57 No.28899799 Report

Quoted By: >>28899925 >>28904646

>>28898896
Fissure Machamp but it will be useless if we get HA for all VC pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 19:49:22 No.28899925 Report

Quoted By: >>28899941

>>28899799
Fuck you, John Gamefreak

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 19:50:42 No.28899941 Report

Quoted By: >>28899953

>>28899925
Rollin' for those pentas

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 19:51:47 No.28899953 Report

Quoted By: >>28899976

>>28899941
Reroll

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 19:52:52 No.28899976 Report

Quoted By: >>28899989

>>28899953
Rereroll

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OP !YIDTI1qphI Mon 03 Oct 2016 19:54:00 No.28899989 Report

Quoted By: >>28899999 >>28900093

>>28899976
Rerereroll

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 19:54:04 No.28899991 Report

Quoted By: >>28900055

wait, can you do fissure no guard machamp?

If you baton passed speedboosts to it-?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 19:54:32 No.28899997 Report

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>>28898896
Dig Kadabra
Egg Bomb Mew
Tri Attack on some

These are all kind of useless though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 19:54:34 No.28899999 Report

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>>28899989
come on

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 19:55:05 No.28900012 Report

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>>28899999
fuck yu

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Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 19:55:38 No.28900016 Report

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>>28899999

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Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 19:56:19 No.28900035 Report

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>>28899999
fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 19:57:06 No.28900055 Report

Quoted By: >>28900134

>>28899991
>252 Atk Sharp Beak Talonflame Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Machamp: 288-338 (75 - 88%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
>0 Atk Machamp Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Talonflame: 476-560 (160.2 - 188.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Could maybe work if you predict the switch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 19:59:40 No.28900093 Report

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>>28899989
o fuk

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 20:01:56 No.28900134 Report

Quoted By: >>28900143

>>28900055
>not adamant

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 20:02:57 No.28900143 Report

Quoted By: >>28900158 >>28900182

>>28900134
Why would you need Adamant if you're just going to be firing off Fissures all game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 20:03:38 No.28900158 Report

Quoted By: >>28900206 >>28900252

>>28900143
The Talonflame

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 20:04:41 No.28900182 Report

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>>28900143
Because talonflame doesn't get fissure

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 20:06:06 No.28900206 Report

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>>28900158
252+ Atk Sharp Beak Talonflame Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Machamp: 314-372 (81.7 - 96.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 20:08:52 No.28900252 Report

Quoted By: >>28900275

>>28900158
And, as the calcs demonstrate, you don't need any Attack at all to kill a typical Talonflame
A Fissure No Guard Machamp only needs as many tools as are needed to punish Flying-types and Levitators that might switch in to Fissure - Payback, Stone Edge and Ice Punch can probably 1- or 2-shot most of those

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 20:10:33 No.28900275 Report

Quoted By: >>28900364 >>28900892

>>28900252
Does Sturdy still block OHKO moves?
Not that any of this really matters because Smogon bans OHKO moves and it's not that difficult to just double target Machamp in doubles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 20:10:36 No.28900276 Report

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>>28899404
>Bubblebeam Persian
Sounds like rabies

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 20:14:41 No.28900344 Report

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>>28800000

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Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 20:15:42 No.28900364 Report

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>>28900275
Yes
And while both those things are true, it's easy to imagine Fissure NG Champ everywhere in BattleSpot Singles
Or someone using Follow Me to stop such things

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 20:18:59 No.28900427 Report

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>>28900364
I guess we're going to see many more Pachirisu.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 20:19:42 No.28900440 Report

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>>28900364
Or a flying type

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 20:24:51 No.28900540 Report

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>>28899999
That was a stupid get
come on, mon, get creative.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 20:25:42 No.28900555 Report

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>>28888888

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Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 20:29:47 No.28900640 Report

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I'm too lazy to check , but can't you teach Chansey reflect in gen 1?

If so could dual screen light clay Blissey become a thing?

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Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 20:32:37 No.28900693 Report

Quoted By: >>28904948

All those pokemon that learn Metronome on gen 1

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Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 20:45:25 No.28900892 Report

Quoted By: >>28900902

>>28900275
Aren't they allowed in Ubers though?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 20:46:09 No.28900902 Report

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>>28900892
I think so, but there are a lot of Psychic-types in that tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 20:46:09 No.28900903 Report

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>>28900540
I didn't mean it actually
Sorry

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 20:57:32 No.28901128 Report

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>>28898896
>Seismic Toss Charizard
>Water Gun Rattata
Those are two I can think of.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 21:04:22 No.28901244 Report

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>>28900364
>it's easy to imagine Fissure NG Champ everywhere in BattleSpot Singles
Thankfully they'll enforce the native rule until the second Gen 7 game at least

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 21:04:22 No.28901245 Report

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Sadly most TMs in gen 1 were shit moves like bide and egg bomb, and the good moves like Thunderbolt and ice beam stayed as TMs in later generations, so no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 21:33:53 No.28901742 Report

Quoted By: >>28902117 >>28904787 >>28905035

Yes, GF is going to allow such a cancerous oversight as Fissure NG Machamp to happen. You are all correct.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 21:52:07 No.28902117 Report

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>>28901742
Game Freak is pretty inept.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 23:44:14 No.28904193 Report

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Weren't a lot more Pokemon able to learn Explosion in 1st gen?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 23:51:08 No.28904329 Report

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>>28899999
>>28900000
>>28000000
>>20000000
>>00000000

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Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 23:55:46 No.28904427 Report

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All imported Pokemon will have their HA to prevent no guard fissure from happening.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 00:03:55 No.28904584 Report

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>>28899999
Checked

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 00:08:08 No.28904646 Report

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>>28899157
>>28899399
No guard will be changed in gen 7 to not work with OHKO moves. I refuse to believe they would overlook this.

>>28899799
That could be another way to deal with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 00:19:02 No.28904787 Report

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>>28901742
But because of the native only rule it will only be allowed in casual play, and they don't care about balance for casual play

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 00:29:37 No.28904948 Report

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>>28900693
The odds of getting a good move from Metronome are almost nonexistent considering all the non damaging moves across 6 (soon 7) gens
Heck, in Platinum Togepi cost me 2 lucky eggs, cos the little bastard got Fling from Metronome

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Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 00:34:10 No.28905035 Report

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>>28901742
Not like GF jumps the shark when it comes to balancing. Nuh uh.

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