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Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 20:56:19 No.28901097 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>28901247 >>28901275

This move is cancer. It completely invalidates Grass types by being available on every single Water type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 20:57:12 No.28901121 Report

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It also invalidates Ice types by being on every single water type

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 20:57:14 No.28901123 Report

Quoted By: >>28901247 >>28901560

what retard uses grass types anyway?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 20:57:48 No.28901131 Report

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Grass type invalidates itself by existing in a climate where the most common moves are the ones it is weak against.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 20:58:08 No.28901137 Report

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git gud

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 20:59:16 No.28901163 Report

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The move is good, the distribution is shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 21:00:30 No.28901183 Report

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it should only be available on half-ice types and shitmons

fucking starmie has been OU in every single gen because this + thunderbolt gives it godlike coverage

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 21:04:27 No.28901247 Report

Quoted By: >>28901295 >>28901311 >>28901343

>>28901097
What if all Fire Types can gain access to Energy Ball as an alternative to Solar Beam?
What if all Grass Types can gain access to Earth Power or Power Gem?

>>28901123
>What is Ferrothorn, Breloom, Serperior, Tangrowth, Amoongus, Venusaur Mega, Shaymin-Sky?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 21:05:42 No.28901275 Report

Quoted By: >>28901285

>>28901097
>every single Water type
Keldeo doesn't learn it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 21:06:18 No.28901285 Report

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>>28901275
Seismitoad as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 21:06:48 No.28901293 Report

Quoted By: >>28901329 >>28901338 >>28901358 >>28901434

Thunder Wave is worse. Fucking everything gets it and it's perfectly accurate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 21:06:50 No.28901295 Report

Quoted By: >>28901343

>>28901247
Power Gem on all Grass please.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 21:08:03 No.28901311 Report

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>>28901247
le shit lol :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 21:09:17 No.28901329 Report

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>>28901293
Still having Gen I flashbacks, grampa?

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Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 21:10:16 No.28901338 Report

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>>28901293
>Fully paralyzed
>Fully paralyzed
>opponent also has Iron Head/Rock Slide

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 21:10:36 No.28901343 Report

Quoted By: >>28901405

Blame Masuda and his fetish for water type

Ice Beam is not cancer, that every damn Water type learns is the problem

You want an actual move that's cancer? That's Scald.

>>28901247
>>28901295
I'm still baffled that only Sunflora of all grass types gets Earth Power. So much stuff would go from borderline unusable to 8/10 pretty good like Lilligant if they had it on their moveset.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 21:11:48 No.28901358 Report

Quoted By: >>28901368 >>28901381

>>28901293
>>28901338
>I'm too retarded to include ground and electric types on my team

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 21:12:45 No.28901368 Report

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>>28901358
>Thunder Wave on a mon that beats ground/electric types

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 21:13:28 No.28901381 Report

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>>28901358
Okay, but there are plenty of water and grass-types that get TWave. There aren't that many good electric-types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 21:13:47 No.28901387 Report

Quoted By: >>28901888

Only water types that get it are starters and half ice type. Fixed.

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Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 21:14:46 No.28901405 Report

Quoted By: >>28901506

>>28901343
>give Ice types a move to counter Water types
>its got meh power and shitty distribution

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 21:16:31 No.28901434 Report

Quoted By: >>28901463

I mean another thing that I'd like to bring up is that alot of Psychic types have access to Shadow Ball, as well as Normal and Fighting types having access to a a Ghost or Dark type move like Crunch, Shadow Claw, Pursuit and Sucker Punch. Are Ghost types good as where they are now?

>>28901293
>It's perfectly accurate
Would Will-o-wisp being perfectly accurate be bad?

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Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 21:17:47 No.28901460 Report

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>There are two moves that are guaranteed to crit
>The ice-type one is worse anyways and is on less pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 21:18:11 No.28901463 Report

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>>28901434
>Would Will-o-wisp being perfectly accurate be bad?
For something that permanently lowers a stat? Yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 21:19:13 No.28901486 Report

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earthquake is worse imo

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 21:20:26 No.28901506 Report

Quoted By: >>28902979

>>28901405
>Let's make a type with ungodly offensive effectiveness

>So let's make all their Pokemon slow with high defensive stats
>And let's also give water types access to their most common move
>And let's also give them a weather but no abilities to take advantage of that weather
>Let's also introduce a new type that takes away one of the few reasons they are used for aka killing dragons
>And give them a new cool-ass move that gives them another type to hit super effectively with but let's barely give it to anything

I was hoping for change this gen but nope, Alolan Sandslash is proof that things will continue the same.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 21:23:29 No.28901560 Report

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>>28901123
Grass-type moves are super effective on the 3 types that Fire is weak to, so as coverage or partner it is pretty good for a Fire-type, it also resists Water and Ground, 2 of the 3 weaknesses of Fire-types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 21:40:44 No.28901888 Report

Quoted By: >>28902772

>>28901387
Octillery, Kyogre, Gastrodon, Quagsire, Golduck, Politoed, Poliwrath, Tentacruel, Slowbro, Slowking, Kingler, Kingdra, Seaking, Starmie, Vaporeon, Ludicolo, Gyarados, Lanturn, Azumarill, Qwilfish, Corsola, Suicune, and pretty much the rest of them too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 22:26:05 No.28902772 Report

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>>28901888
>reading comprehension

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 22:39:24 No.28902979 Report

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>>28901506
Also,
>lets make sure that this type can never be obtained before the 5th gym

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