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Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 05:38:19 No.28977884 View View Reply Original Report

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Safeguard now lasts for the duration of the match and is only removed by Defog/Brick Break.
Is it too broken?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 05:42:20 No.28977933 Report

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>>28977884
No, I'd say it's appropriate for the power creep. People are going for Scald and Discharge and Lava Plume and Thunder Wave and Will O Wisp too much nowadays.

Imagine a world where Suicune couldn't brute-force its way through Ferrothorn by going for a Scald burn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 05:47:05 No.28977984 Report

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>>28977933
Oh god, Scald is the worst. That move is so broken.

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Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 05:51:05 No.28978023 Report

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>>28977984
>Oh god, Scald is the worst
NO! Water most get more!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 05:53:07 No.28978045 Report

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>>28977884
>>28977933
What if its duration was buffed to 8 turns?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 05:54:12 No.28978062 Report

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>>28978045
I don't think anybody would use it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 05:54:16 No.28978066 Report

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>>28977984
>Scald makes water types better at spreading burn status than fire types
>on top of taking up a niche that grass types should be the masters of
It's just depressing, Scald needs a BP nerf at the very least.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 06:07:04 No.28978240 Report

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>>28977884
Yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 06:19:53 No.28978355 Report

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My slowpoke knows scald is he broken? I love him

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 06:26:36 No.28978415 Report

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>>28978355
No, scald is only "broken" in the smogon singles meta. It's not that big a deal using it in game, doubles or in battle spot metas, where things are typically much faster paced and a burn is only situationally better then more damage/hitting multiple pokes offered by hydro pump/surf.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 06:28:15 No.28978434 Report

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>>28977884
yes

however, having an item to increase the effects of safeguard wouldn't be as broken

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 06:30:22 No.28978453 Report

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>>28978045
It might get some use in vgc or battle spot, keyfucker gets it after all, but 8 turns isnt long enough for smogon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 06:33:16 No.28978480 Report

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>>28978415
>"scald is only ludicrously overpowered in the most popular meta!"

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Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 06:34:40 No.28978495 Report

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>>28977884
It would be broken if only those two moves removed it. Maybe if spin did as well

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Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 06:35:46 No.28978501 Report

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>the mere notion of scald not being broken

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 08:26:17 No.28979370 Report

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>>28978415
I still don't understand
Is it because it's a water type with a burn (fire)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 08:27:51 No.28979381 Report

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my scald, wish, protect, toxic if scald doesn't work strategy works rly well on Showdown not bad for a noob it makes people rage quit tho

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