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Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 18:30:58 No.28986477 View View Reply Original Report

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So what are they?
Cats? Dogs? Hybrid?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 18:31:29 No.28986482 Report

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>>28986477
they're pokemon OP

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 18:31:43 No.28986487 Report

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>>28986477
Yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 18:31:49 No.28986488 Report

Quoted By: >>28986512

If they say it is dog
It is dog.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 18:32:09 No.28986490 Report

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Four legged beasts with various elemental based powers

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 18:32:25 No.28986498 Report

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>>28986477
Raikou is unarguably a sabertooth tiger

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 18:32:34 No.28986501 Report

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Beasts

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 18:32:58 No.28986507 Report

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Fuckable.

also, just pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 18:33:09 No.28986512 Report

Quoted By: >>28986549

>>28986488
But the anime isn't canon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 18:33:15 No.28986514 Report

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>>28986477

clearly a houndour

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 18:35:16 No.28986549 Report

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>>28986512
if the anime isn't cannon, then how are we getting Ash geninja?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 18:35:38 No.28986555 Report

Quoted By: >>28986612

Oh, so you're moving this to a new thread, are ya?

Let me spell this out for you, real simple like. Most, if not all, Pokemon, are conglomerations of real life creatures. The ones you've posted above have traits from big cats, wolves, bears, other carnivores, and mythological creatures from Japan. In order to avoid confusion or autism, a universal term, the word "Beasts", can be introduced into the situation. It is illogical to try and label fictional composite creatures as something as rigidly defined as a "cat" or "dog".

They are the Legendary Beasts.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 18:37:15 No.28986584 Report

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They're beasts

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 18:38:46 No.28986608 Report

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>>28986477
They're Suicune, Raikou and Entei.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 18:38:58 No.28986612 Report

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>>28986555
Also get justice trip'd, ya flippin' weenies.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 18:39:00 No.28986613 Report

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>>28986549

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 18:39:52 No.28986625 Report

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>>28986477
They're Pokémon OP. Sure their designs may have been inspired by real world animals, but they're not animals. These beasts are nothing more than pokemon with animal characteristics. I personally call them beasts because raikou looks more feline whereas suicune look more canine, and entei? Well that thing is a mystery(but an argument could be made that it resembles a lion).

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 18:41:39 No.28986662 Report

Quoted By: >>28987448

>>28986549
Deep down inside we're all Ash

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 18:42:44 No.28986682 Report

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>>28986549
Greninja won the poll of being the most popular pokemon and every pokemon in the top 3 get a special event distribution.

But greninja isn't a legendary so they gave him something original that please the fans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 18:43:55 No.28986703 Report

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>>28986682
What poll friendo

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 18:44:21 No.28986712 Report

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>>28986477
Kaijuu/Beasts, which is an arbitrary term itself in Japanese. So accept them as Beast or Kaijuu, then you can make peace with whatever you want to believe, be it cats or dogs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 18:46:04 No.28986740 Report

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>>28986477
dog before dying
hybrid 2deep4u mythical bullshit afte ho-oh res them
or like their trio name says, they are beasts

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 18:49:24 No.28986817 Report

Quoted By: >>28987124

>>28986477
They're East Asian "gargoyles".

I say that in quotes because there are a metric shitload of beasts in Chinese, Japanese and Korean lore that get intricate statues made of them, and all of them are conglomerations of a bunch of different unrelated animals. They function similarly to gargoyles in Western European mythos, as guardians of important religious and political locations. Some of them look like lions (pic related), but some are like horses, wolves, etc. It's just a fusion of a whole bunch of shit to look interesting.

The "legendary beasts" from Gen II are based directly on this idea. You even wake them up from their statue state.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 18:52:54 No.28986877 Report

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Owls

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 18:53:07 No.28986883 Report

Quoted By: >>28986929

I wish instead they went with the eeveelution theory

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 18:53:54 No.28986900 Report

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>>28986477
Foo Dogs

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 18:54:42 No.28986910 Report

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>>28986703
The huge ass poll with 720 to vote between to determine the favorite Pokemon. Whoever won was to get a special distribution. Greninja won and Simisage came in dead last, so it got its own event as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 18:54:46 No.28986911 Report

Quoted By: >>28986988

>>28986477
lion saber tooth and majestic as fuck
not dog not dog and possible

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 18:55:08 No.28986916 Report

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>>28986549
There is a trainer in the game verse based of XY Ash. Simple.

We know nothing about "game Ash" except he has a special Greninja.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 18:55:46 No.28986929 Report

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>>28986883
That is stupid idea and I'm glad they aren't tied to Eeveelutions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 18:56:01 No.28986934 Report

Quoted By: >>28986958 >>28987186

>>28986910
Simisear

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 18:57:17 No.28986958 Report

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>>28986934
Oops

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 18:58:07 No.28986975 Report

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>>28986477
Listen they be mother fucking dogcats. You see those tails? You see how they are majestic as fuck like a cat? You hear their barks? This are mother fucking DOGCATS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 18:58:50 No.28986988 Report

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>>28986911
I always think of Suicune as a cheetah

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 18:58:51 No.28986989 Report

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>>28986910
Ah, was curious. Found the link to the poll through Google. Thanks for the info

Link for other people
http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/election/

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 19:01:02 No.28987025 Report

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>>28986477
They're pretty obviously a jaguar, sabretooth tiger, and lion. I seriously don't understand how anyone could think Raikou looks canine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 19:03:42 No.28987070 Report

Quoted By: >>28987236 >>28987276 >>28987311 >>28987371

>>28986477
A kirin(chimera thingy), a raiju(often despicted as a tiger) and a shi(guardian lion).

I don't know how this is up to debate, they are 1:1 translations of famous Eastern legendary creatures.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 19:04:35 No.28987086 Report

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ITT autistic people ignore reason in favor of wacking off their headcanon. Pokemon happen to be imaginary creatures, based off of many things which a few kind souls above pointed out.

>I think it looks like this!
>But in my opinion...
>It's clearly a...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 19:05:16 No.28987101 Report

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>>28986549
Ash Greninja isn't specific to ash

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 19:06:46 No.28987124 Report

Quoted By: >>28987180

>>28986817
homie did you just call shiisa gargoyles

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 19:09:06 No.28987167 Report

Quoted By: >>28987234 >>28987248

>>28987086
Are there any actually good arguments against Raikou being a tiger and Entei being a lion though?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 19:09:33 No.28987180 Report

Quoted By: >>28987306

>>28987124
Why do you think he put gargoyles in quotes? Let's think about it, TOGETHER! :D

He likely knew that it wasn't an exact relation, but a simple one that would relate something that may not be as well know to something that pretty much everyone knows about! Almost like an analogy! Holy SHIT! So next level I can barely understand it!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 19:09:38 No.28987181 Report

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>>28986975
A-Anon, I agree. Dogcats, yes!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 19:09:52 No.28987186 Report

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>>28986934
>Hot Monkay Dik is the least popular Pokemon in Nipland
Japan has the shittest taste

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 19:11:35 No.28987225 Report

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>>28986477
Beasts.
Creatures with mammalian traits.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 19:11:58 No.28987234 Report

Quoted By: >>28987371

>>28987167
Entei is a shaggy mastiff though. Suicune is a wolf. Raikou has always been the odd one out with its feline features.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 19:12:10 No.28987236 Report

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>>28987070
/thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 19:12:51 No.28987248 Report

Quoted By: >>28987311

>>28987167
They're Pokemon. Of course they share elements with real animals, because they are based on elements from them. That doesn't mean, for example, Mankey IS a pig or IS a monkey. They're imaginary creatures, man.

If you'd like to know more about the trio, I suggest the bulbapedo pages on the 3 Pokemon in question. Perhaps their article on the Legendary Beasts will help out as well. They've done quite a bit of research, so I imagine it will be helpful for you to see how a Pokemon is almost never based on a singular creature.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 19:13:17 No.28987264 Report

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>>28986477

pretty sure raikou is based on a nue, considering his head looks like that of a baboon and he has the body of a tiger

TopKec !UNSTjHdDlA

TopKec !UNSTjHdDlA Fri 07 Oct 2016 19:14:06 No.28987276 Report

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>>28987070
This tbqhwyfam.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 19:15:29 No.28987306 Report

Quoted By: >>28987424

>>28987180
you sound salty bro
most folks just call them lions or fu dogs/lions, they're a terrible comparison to gargoyles

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 19:16:02 No.28987310 Report

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>>28986477
beasts

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 19:16:04 No.28987311 Report

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>>28987248
Furthermore, as stated by others, these imaginary creatures are based DIRECTLY on 'real life' imaginary creatures, mentioned >>28987070 here.

Of course they will share elements with existing animals. For the love of Pokemon, please just call them Beasts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 19:17:37 No.28987348 Report

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>>28987264
this also fits with how its ass looks (baboon similarites)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 19:18:43 No.28987371 Report

Quoted By: >>28987432

>>28987234
>>28987070
Also while Suicine is definitely more ambiguous, I say it looks more like pic related than anything else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 19:21:43 No.28987424 Report

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>>28987306
From Gargoyle wiki: the correct term for such a sculpture (a decoration, if you will) is a grotesque, chimera, or boss

Chimera: an organism containing a mixture of genetically different tissues, formed by processes such as fusion of early embryos, grafting, or mutation

From Shiisa wiki: a traditional Ryukyuan decoration, often in pairs, resembling a cross between a lion and a dog

They are certainly comparable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 19:22:06 No.28987432 Report

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>>28987371
Not in the slightest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Oct 2016 19:22:50 No.28987448 Report

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>>28986662
nah, ive defeated leagues before

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