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Anonymous Wed 12 Oct 2016 19:23:08 No.29081102 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>29081144 >>29081198 >>29081217 >>29081262 >>29082591

So with retcons, cross-gen evos, Megas, and Alolan Forms, Kanto now has
>8 Ice-type evolutionary lines (Cloyster, Dewgong, Jynx, Lapras, Articuno, Glaceon, Alolan Vulpix, Alolan Sandshrew)
>2 Ghost lines (Gastly, Alolan Marowak)
>4 Dragon lines (Dratini, Kingdra, Mega Charizard X, Alolan Exeggutor)
>4 Steel lines (Magnemite, Steelix, Scizor, Alolan Sandshrew)
>5 Dark lines (Umbreon, Mega Gyarados, Alolan Meowth, Alolan Rattata, Alolan Grimer)
>5 Fairy lines (Jigglypuff, Clefairy, Mr. Mime, Sylveon, Alolan Ninetales)
Thoughts?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Oct 2016 19:25:33 No.29081144 Report

Quoted By: >>29081217 >>29081235

>>29081102
kanto still has the same types it already had before sun and moon. alola has the new forms, you dumbass

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Oct 2016 19:28:07 No.29081198 Report

Quoted By: >>29081235 >>29081254 >>29081262

>>29081102
alola forms aren't kantonian, there's no alola vulpix in kanto

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Oct 2016 19:29:04 No.29081217 Report

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>>29081102
>Kanto
>Kingdra

Otherwise, I noticed that they seem to be giving Generation 1 types it didn't have much of before.

>>29081144
Yes, people think Generation and Region are interchangeable for some reason

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Oct 2016 19:29:33 No.29081235 Report

Quoted By: >>29081254 >>29081263 >>29081380

>>29081144
>>29081198
So then Alolan Ninetales is a new Pokemon now? It's a Gen VII right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Oct 2016 19:30:19 No.29081254 Report

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>>29081198
please, new friend, its kantonese

>>29081235
its a new form of the old pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Oct 2016 19:30:53 No.29081262 Report

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>>29081102
>>29081198
but i agree with eeveelutions, kingdra, megas, steelix, scizor, jygglypuff line, mr mime line, clefairy line
>alolan exeggutor
why not kantonian exeguttor? the canon is that exeggutor is originally from Alola

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Oct 2016 19:31:06 No.29081263 Report

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>>29081235
Alolan Ninetales is a Generation 1 Pokemon in the Alola region. Not the Kanto region.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Oct 2016 19:37:24 No.29081380 Report

Quoted By: >>29081558

>>29081235
vulpix ice is gen 7, vulpix fire is gen 1. vulpix fire is from kanto, johto, hoenn and unova, vulpix ice only alola. gen =/= region
look houndour, gen 2 mon but is a kanto, sinnoh and kalos mon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Oct 2016 19:44:05 No.29081497 Report

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megas, cross gen evo and cross gen preevo are region-mon (not gen-mon), because they're like retcon, this forms changed by the enviroment aren't. Vulpix is so from Hoenn as from Kanto

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Oct 2016 19:46:49 No.29081558 Report

Quoted By: >>29082182

>>29081380
Vulpix Ice is Gen 1, but in the Alola region

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Oct 2016 20:24:03 No.29082182 Report

Quoted By: >>29082238 >>29082249

>>29081558
no, is gen 7. there's no vulpix ice in gen 1. vulpix fire is gen 1

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Oct 2016 20:27:12 No.29082238 Report

Quoted By: >>29082261 >>29082264 >>29082421 >>29082523 >>29082563

>>29082182
Have you not heard of different forms? Question Mark Unown is still Unown and thus still a Gen 2 Pokemon.

Electric/Ice Rotom-W is still Gen 4's Rotom, despite they typing not existing in Gen 5.

Mega-Sceptile is not a Gen 6 Pokemon, but a Mega-Form of a Gen 3 Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Oct 2016 20:27:49 No.29082249 Report

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>>29082182
Muh gawd. Can you be ANY more autistic.
The conversation is talking about types using the most modern typing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Oct 2016 20:28:49 No.29082261 Report

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>>29082238
not existing *until

Still, people are looking at these form changes like it's the first time we've had form changes in the franchise or something

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Oct 2016 20:28:54 No.29082264 Report

Quoted By: >>29082412

>>29082238
Mega Sceptile is a gen 6 form

the Alolan forms are different Pokemon in every way except name and possibly dex number so they are considered gen 7 Pokemon

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 12 Oct 2016 20:36:28 No.29082412 Report

Quoted By: >>29082442 >>29082492

>>29082264
A Gen 6 form of a Gen 3 Pokemon. Since Megas arent new Pokemon

>>29082264
The two Basculin have different abilities, but are the same Pokemon. The different Pumpkaboo have different stats, but are the same Pokemon. The different Meowstic have different moves and abilities, but are the same Pokemon. The different Shellos look different, but are the same Pokemon. The Rotom Forms got different types in a later Gen but are still Gen 4 Pokemon. The new Unown forms are still Gen 2 Pokemon. Megas are not new Pokemon, despite coming later.

Alolan Vulpix is still Vulpix. There are examples of all of this in other Pokemon where the dex number remains the same in every case. But yet Regional Variants makes everyone lose their minds for some reason

Nobody considers them Gen 7 Pokemon. Once the dex numbers are the same we'll see Gamefreak doesnt, and that's whats's most important.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Oct 2016 20:36:56 No.29082421 Report

Quoted By: >>29082580

>>29082238
The form is gen VII, dumbass

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Oct 2016 20:38:30 No.29082442 Report

Quoted By: >>29082580

>>29082412
Everyone considers them separate Pokemon. It's not useful to call them the same Pokemon when they have
>different stats
>different typings
>different movepools
>different designs
all at the same time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Oct 2016 20:41:01 No.29082492 Report

Quoted By: >>29082580

>>29082412
of course alola forms are gen 7, fire form is gen 1 and ice form is gen 7. you guys act like the kanto ones aren't forms. So, exeggutor is gen 7? because it's true form is showed in gen 7

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Oct 2016 20:43:05 No.29082523 Report

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>>29082238
>electric ice
>rotom wash

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Oct 2016 20:44:58 No.29082563 Report

Quoted By: >>29082580

>>29082238
Gen VI form of a Gen III Pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Oct 2016 20:46:09 No.29082580 Report

Quoted By: >>29082654

>>29082421
>>29082492
How does that contradict what I said? Obviously they're Gen 7 forms of Gen 1 Pokemon. What Gen a new form debuts in doesnt change what Gen the Pokemon debut in. Like always

>>29082442
It's not about what's useful, but what is true. It would certainly be more useful if Nidorans were one Pokemon, but they arent.

Also, I certainly dont see "everyone" saying that

>>29082563
Yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Oct 2016 20:46:54 No.29082591 Report

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>>29081102
>Kanto
>Alolan forms

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Oct 2016 20:50:00 No.29082654 Report

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>>29082580
>"It's not about what's useful, but what is true."
Professor Anon from Nowhere Region

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