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>>29103201
You conviniently left out Hydreigon which is 4x weak to Fairy like Jararanga, and its a relatively powerful pseudo currently rotting in UU.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 16:37:51 No.29103386 Report

Quoted By: >>29103821

Don't forget Hydreigon, Volcarona, Leavanny, Quagsire, and Genesect

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 16:38:34 No.29103395 Report

Quoted By: >>29103561

>>29103345
Hydreigon's problem is speed, do you know how many fast fighting types are around in higher tiers? And what fairy types are OU other than Clefable and Mega Gardevior/Altaria?

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Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 16:45:53 No.29103561 Report

Quoted By: >>29103714

>>29103395
Diancie and Azumarill.
Also Klefki but it's not an attacker so it doesn't really threaten it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 16:46:55 No.29103586 Report

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>>29103333
Despite your sweet numbers, you have to keep in mind that you aren't going to be able to 6v1 with any pokemon, really. You have 5 other slots to stick something into to counter the fairy types. Thus, it is not shit solely due to its fairy weakness. If it's stats and move pool are garbage, then probably. Otherwise, it's outrageous type coverage on everything (save for fairy) will make it good.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 16:47:53 No.29103605 Report

Quoted By: >>29103684

>>29103261
>my nigga Magcargo will never be useful
Why even live

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 16:50:35 No.29103658 Report

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>>29103345
Hydreigon's only issue is speed. In rest, it two shot a ton of Fairy type and a Draco from it can cripple a lot of things that don't resist it/immune to it. If it had say 110 Speed, that thing would in OU guaranteed.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 16:51:27 No.29103684 Report

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>>29103605
>even after a Shell Smash it only hits 348 speed

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Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 16:52:53 No.29103712 Report

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>>29103261
>Water is the most common type
>Magcargo and Camerupt are forever fucked

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 16:52:55 No.29103714 Report

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>>29103561
>Klefki
>doesn't threaten it
If you're not a Ground type or have Magic Guard/Magic Bounce/Own Tempo, you're gonna get fucked royally.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 16:54:05 No.29103743 Report

Quoted By: >>29103912 >>29103935 >>29104134

>>29103201
I'm still stoked that Breloom is still in OU, it's literally Brave Bird + Gale Wings: the Meta, Rock Slide/Stone Edge or Spore on switch is pretty much the only thing that can pick up the heat

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Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 16:56:35 No.29103791 Report

Quoted By: >>29103851 >>29103852 >>29103880 >>29103925

> Common Attacking type.
> Rock type.

OP, do you know what "common" means?

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Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 16:58:17 No.29103821 Report

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>>29103386
>Leavanny
One of these things is not like the other

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Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 16:59:47 No.29103851 Report

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>>29103791
Are you implying he's wrong? Everything runs fucking rock type coverage nowadays.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 16:59:51 No.29103852 Report

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>>29103791
Stealth rocks are omnipresent and some of the most common mons in this meta carry stone edge.
So yeah, it is kind of common.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 17:01:27 No.29103880 Report

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>>29103791
>everybody and their mom can learn rock slide ors tone edge

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Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 17:03:13 No.29103912 Report

Quoted By: >>29103977

>>29103743
Thankfully Lycanroc and Bruxish will knock that bird down a peg or two this gen. Although just to be safe I want to see 2 more counters get revealed or maybe a nerf.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 17:04:01 No.29103925 Report

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>>29103791
>STAB Rock moves are the only ones that exist
>what is Stealth Rock
I swear if the Showdown community came on this board, literally everyone would get swept.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 17:04:10 No.29103928 Report

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I'd honestly take 4x weakness of an uncommon type over 2x weaknesses from extremely common types like Ground and Fighting. Dragon/Fighting is much better offensively, too.
If I wanted a "fairy killer" I'd wait for a Poison/Steel or just wait and see what Salandit turns into.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 17:04:39 No.29103935 Report

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>>29103743
It might never fall out of OU because of Spore, its power and rare typing, and even spare sets like Poison Heal SubPunch

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Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 17:06:25 No.29103969 Report

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>>29103261
he is gonna get a 3rd evolution soon...

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Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 17:06:49 No.29103977 Report

Quoted By: >>29104031

>>29103912
I sure hope both Lycanroc have good enough stats to propel them there and Accelrock becomes an egg move (which most likely will). BB: the meta is just ridiculous.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 17:10:21 No.29104031 Report

Quoted By: >>29104076

>>29103977
How much BP does Accelrock have? If it's 40, Technician users will probably have a field day

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 17:10:43 No.29104035 Report

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>Trashmons

get out of here

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 17:13:06 No.29104076 Report

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>>29104031
It's most likely gonne be 40 like all (natural) priority moves except E-Speed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 17:16:18 No.29104134 Report

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>>29103743
It was like that in 2013. Now Talonflame is just a meme. It's still good but not nearly as meta defining as it was

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 17:20:10 No.29104197 Report

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>>29103201
Breloom is not used often.
Neither is weavile.
Talon flame doesn't function as anything other than a revenge killer, meaning his weakness does not matter.
Bishop dropped in usage heavily.
Ferro thorn has the bulk to take a fire attack depending on his investment. Additionally, he is a set up support, meaning his weaknesses don't really matter.
Dragonite has fucking multiscale.
Scizor is the one pokemon on there that legit has problems with his x4 weakness

Maybe you should try playing in ou.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 17:22:23 No.29104234 Report

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>>29103201
Why isn't Charizard Y there? It's one of the most used Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 17:22:35 No.29104242 Report

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>>29103261
GF deliberately built Magcargo to be a shitmon for whatever reason, unlike the ones in OP

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 17:23:16 No.29104253 Report

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>>29103201
>Scizor only has one weakness
>Ferrothorn has two weaknesses and punishes fighting type moves more often than not with its ability
>Gliscor has poison heal
>Breloom has poison heal + spore and also technician
>Dragonite has multiscale
>Weavile has great offensive stats
>Birb is only good because of its OP ability

>Jararanga has 5 weaknesses, one of them being 4x, and a very situational ability

It's going to be shit unless it gets great speed, and its design makes it look like it'll be slow af

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