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Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 17:55:37 No.29104837 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>29104868 >>29104899 >>29105243 >>29106274 >>29106366

>Dex nav completely botched out of SM
>Exp share given to you early on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvPopri64yo

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 17:57:15 No.29104868 Report

Quoted By: >>29104900 >>29104959 >>29106014 >>29106147

>>29104837
>Don't use the exp share
>There is literally no use for the Dex Nav in a new generation, especially with hyper training.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 17:58:39 No.29104899 Report

Quoted By: >>29105107

>>29104837
Just turn it off?

Also DexNav was obviously going to be removed

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 17:58:40 No.29104900 Report

Quoted By: >>29104930

>>29104868
>There is literally no use for the Dex Nav in a new generation

holy shit you're fucking retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 17:59:47 No.29104922 Report

Quoted By: >>29106152

Exp share isn't necessarily a bad thing (it's a godsend for EV training), but just how it adds to the games being casualized.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 18:00:17 No.29104930 Report

Quoted By: >>29104947 >>29104961

>>29104900
The entire point of it in ORAS was to incorporate new mons. This is a new game, so it's pointless now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 18:01:06 No.29104947 Report

Quoted By: >>29104969 >>29104979

>>29104930
Do you not shiny hunt ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 18:01:41 No.29104959 Report

Quoted By: >>29104979

>>29104868
What about hidden abilities?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 18:01:44 No.29104961 Report

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>>29104930
again no, you don't get the point of the dexnav and you keep being even more retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 18:02:09 No.29104969 Report

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>>29104947
Do you not know any other methods?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 18:02:56 No.29104979 Report

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>>29104947
>>29104959
Most likely being replaced by something else.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 18:07:23 No.29105043 Report

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>no dexnav

This...this is fine....completely fine...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 18:10:04 No.29105090 Report

Quoted By: >>29105138 >>29105239 >>29105311 >>29105529 >>29106203

>not realizing Gen VI EXP Share will actually work now with Gen V EXP Scaling in place

No Dexnav blows chunks though

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 18:10:42 No.29105107 Report

Quoted By: >>29105193 >>29105264 >>29105630

>>29104899
BUT I WANT TO CATCH POKEMON WITH HIDDEN ABILITIES AND EGG MOVES

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 18:12:40 No.29105138 Report

Quoted By: >>29105161

>>29105090
Source? If so, then that's pretty fucking sweet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 18:14:00 No.29105161 Report

Quoted By: >>29105196 >>29105211 >>29105529 >>29106203

>>29105138
EXP yields in the E3 footage confirmed scaling EXP

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 18:15:13 No.29105193 Report

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>>29105107
That's what romhacks are for you retard

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Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 18:15:21 No.29105196 Report

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>>29105161
Yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 18:16:39 No.29105211 Report

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>>29105161
That was probably just a beta version.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 18:18:12 No.29105239 Report

Quoted By: >>29105368 >>29105382

>>29105090
>unovan exp
>literally unable to level up
>slog through the game, struggling to beat things
>inane level curve that puts you 15 under by the E4
Not gonna buy

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 18:18:26 No.29105243 Report

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>>29104837
>EXP Share given super early

Eheheh, yes, difficultyfag tears are almost as delicious as denialfag tears.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 18:20:01 No.29105264 Report

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>>29105107
They may implement another way to do that

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Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 18:21:58 No.29105296 Report

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>>29105193
>playing romhacks
>calling someone else a retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 18:22:46 No.29105311 Report

Quoted By: >>29105368 >>29106223

>>29105090
Gen V Exp scaling gives you way more experience than the flat formula. If they use the same exact formula it will be even more broken than gen VI.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 18:26:29 No.29105368 Report

Quoted By: >>29105382 >>29105648

>>29105311
>Gen V Exp scaling gives you way more
Bull shit. Late game it fell so flat.

One of the few things I disliked about gen 5

>>29105239
Is right. Unless there's some secret we don't know

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 18:27:31 No.29105382 Report

Quoted By: >>29105538

>>29105368
>not realizing >>29105239 was a joke post

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 18:34:31 No.29105529 Report

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>>29105090
>>29105161
That's all I needed. Now if the AI isn't completely retarded, this might be fun to play.
Being underleveled in Gen V made for a fun experience without needing to go out of my way for handicaps (like doing a nuzlocke, no item run and other similar things).

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Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 18:34:47 No.29105538 Report

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>>29105382
>joke post
>literally how I felt in BW

Okay anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 18:39:20 No.29105630 Report

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>>29105107
At least act completely unsurprised that the Pokemon that show up on Isle Abeens have a chance of being their Hidden Abilities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 18:40:16 No.29105648 Report

Quoted By: >>29105896 >>29105925 >>29105999

>>29105368
Literally wrong, unless you're like 10+ levels higher than the pokémon you're fighting you get far more Exp in gen V than any other generation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 18:51:36 No.29105896 Report

Quoted By: >>29105940 >>29106004

>>29105648
Anon, there's a reason Audino grinding is a meme, their insane base EXP yields are basically required to get enough EXP from enemies to fight the E4 and N/Ghetsis in BW1 without being underleveled.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 18:52:47 No.29105925 Report

Quoted By: >>29106092

>>29105648
Not him, but are you sure? I don't know, I feel like I had an easier time keeping my levels in check in Gen V than any other gen. And I didn't avoid battles nor anything of the sort.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 18:53:41 No.29105940 Report

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>>29105896
No? I didn't grind once in BW.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 18:56:18 No.29105999 Report

Quoted By: >>29106092

>>29105648
I did a solo run of White and my mon ended up just 5 levels above Ghetsis' Hydreigon. The "gen 5 gives more exp" meme is stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 18:56:40 No.29106004 Report

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>>29105896
Audino grinding is only for postgame.
Needing to do that for the main story makes you an absolute pleb.
Ghetsis can pose a challenge, but anything else in the league? No fucking way. The E4 themselves in particular is such a pushover due to them all being at the same level.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 18:57:20 No.29106014 Report

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>>29104868
Unless they give us a better way to find HAs then yes there is absolutely a purpose for dexnav.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 19:01:33 No.29106092 Report

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>>29105925
>>29105999
I think I'm not getting my point across properly.
The gen V exp formula gives you more exp unless you're insanely overleveled, this is objectively true.

That doesn't mean the games are easier than earlier installments, as long as the exp curve is based around the exp model used.I personally think they did a good job in that regard.

You can say the same for XY, it's not the exp. share itself that makes the game ridiculously easy if you turn it on, it's the fact that the level curve is so painfully obviously not built with it in mind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 19:02:51 No.29106116 Report

Quoted By: >>29106245

I don't see why booting out Dex Nav because there's new ways to get Hidden Abilities, and because of Hyper Training is a good excuse. I limits the options on what the player can do to achieve their goal for getting HA Pokemon and Good IVs. And also what if the Bottle Caps needed for Hyper Training is pretty damn expensive? Wouldn't it be helpful to cut off the costs for getting a specific few through Dexnav and Breeding and then covering the rest?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 19:04:30 No.29106147 Report

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>>29104868
>hidden abilities
>getting egg moves without the hassle of double breeding
that's your use

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 19:04:44 No.29106152 Report

Quoted By: >>29106229

>>29104922
Pokemon games were never hard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 19:06:58 No.29106203 Report

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>>29105090
>>29105161
>Gen 5 exp yield
Can someone please double check this and show us the math in a thread?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 19:08:08 No.29106223 Report

Quoted By: >>29106403

>>29105311
Well yeah only if you use weak Pokemon.
It depends - will the exp share give the *same* amount of exp to your team or the *equivalent* amount?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 19:08:21 No.29106229 Report

Quoted By: >>29106250

>>29106152
>the quality was never high, so a drop in quality is OK
Have some backbone you bullied little bitch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 19:09:12 No.29106245 Report

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>>29106116
Hidden Abilities will probably come from Isle Abeans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 19:09:21 No.29106250 Report

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>>29106229
Pokemon has always been about making your own difficulty.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 19:10:30 No.29106274 Report

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>>29104837
I guess I can see Dex Nav for some people but

>complaining over the EXP Share
>being so autistic you lack the self control to turn it off
That's your problem, not theirs. I hope they keep the EXP Share as is for the rest of the series.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 19:15:01 No.29106366 Report

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>>29104837
>Never used DexNav for anything other than looking for my will be Party Pokemon
>just turn Exp Share off
It being XY tier easy is gonna suck dick though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2016 19:16:42 No.29106403 Report

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>>29106223
>Well yeah only if you use weak Pokemon.
No. Use a pokémon at the same level as the opponent and you get way more exp than with the flat formula. You have to be overleveled to get less exp than in the past.

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