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Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 17:12:39 No.29153454 View View Reply Original Report

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Is cross-gen evolution gone for good, Eevees aside? We haven't gotten any since gen 4.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 17:14:49 No.29153495 Report

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>>29153454
Sylveon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 17:16:22 No.29153523 Report

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>>29153495
>reading comprehension

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 17:16:49 No.29153531 Report

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>>29153495
>Eevees aside
come on, anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 17:16:54 No.29153533 Report

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>>29153495
"Eevees aside?"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 17:16:57 No.29153535 Report

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>>29153495
>I can't read

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 17:17:06 No.29153539 Report

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I hope they come back

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 17:17:44 No.29153550 Report

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>>29153495
>reading comprehension

As for OP, I'm pessimistic about seeing any cross-gen evos for Sun&Moon. If they haven't announced any thus far as a sort of "Look at this! Your old favorites get new evolutions!" marketing gimmick, I don't think there'll be any.

Unless they want to surprise us, but I'm not counting on it.

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Regigiganon Sat 15 Oct 2016 17:17:59 No.29153554 Report

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>>29153495

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 17:18:45 No.29153570 Report

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It seems like it. I blame megas, honestly.

It made sense not to get any in gen 5 because they wanted to do a parallel of gen 1.

Gen 6 had the opportunity to add cross-gen evos but they opted to do megas instead.
Pokemon that should have gotten traditional evolutions like Mawile got megas instead.

This is the main reason I don't like megas. Now mawile can never get a traditional evolution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 17:21:53 No.29153636 Report

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>>29153554
But Rayquaza can't learn bullet seed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 17:22:20 No.29153643 Report

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>>29153570
I agree, though there are a handful of good megas. Pokemon like Beedril were perfect for megas.

Single stage pokemon such as mawile and sableye really got screwed out of real evolutions though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 17:22:33 No.29153648 Report

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>>29153454
Cross gen evolutions have always been a feature of even gens. Aside from the two that were in gen three, they were all in either gen 2 or 4.

Gen 6 gave us one, and also gave us ~50 mega evolutions that fill a similar design space.

There was never any reason to expect them in gen 7. We'll have to wait and see what happens in gen 8 to actually make a judgement. It could be though that they've been replaced by megas.

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Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 17:22:57 No.29153658 Report

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>>29153454
>megas aren't cross evolutions

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 17:23:52 No.29153676 Report

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>>29153454
Any normal pokemon that evolves into a regional variant is a cross Gen evo. So A-Eggxecutor is one

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 17:25:08 No.29153701 Report

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>>29153570
Megas are kind of at fault, but they only prevented a few mons from getting new evolutions. At least they gave a lot of megas to mons that were evolved and didn't need proper evos. Now Alola forms are definitely ruining it. They're basically "cross gen evos" without actually being crossgen

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 17:26:01 No.29153716 Report

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>>29153454
Blame Eviolite. It works only on Pokemon that can evolve.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 17:26:49 No.29153731 Report

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After the abortions that are magmortar and rhyperior, I really didn't want any more cross-gen evos anyways.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 17:28:13 No.29153761 Report

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>tfw cross gen evos were your favorite part of new generations

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 17:28:53 No.29153781 Report

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>>29153495
>le ebin everyone reply to this post for le big block of quotes xD

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 17:29:52 No.29153799 Report

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>>29153716
This.

Gamefreak is so resistant to retconning shit like this, I think cross gen evos really might be gone for good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 17:30:37 No.29153810 Report

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>>29153658
They aren't. What's your point?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 17:31:19 No.29153819 Report

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>>29153570
>I blame megas, honestly.
You should only blame the cross gens themselves. The reception of them were horrid which is why eviolite and megas were made.

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Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 17:31:41 No.29153827 Report

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>>29153810
>mega evolution
>not an evolution

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 17:32:07 No.29153837 Report

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>>29153819
Magmortar and Ambipom are the only bad ones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 17:32:54 No.29153853 Report

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>>29153827
>sea horse
>not a horse
Your point?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 17:32:54 No.29153854 Report

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>>29153837
That's not what the public said.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 17:33:01 No.29153856 Report

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>>29153827
It's still not the same concept you moron, mega evolution is just a short boost and nothing permanent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 17:33:55 No.29153867 Report

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Cross gen evos are gone because GF is too afraid to retcon things like "but you couldn't breed a Snorlax and get a Munchlax in Gen III so it needs a special incense to exist" or "but Eevee couldn't use a Leaf stone to become a Leafeon before so it needs a special rock you couldn't find in other regions"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 17:36:04 No.29153909 Report

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>>29153676
>implying we wont get coconut exeggcute

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 17:37:26 No.29153942 Report

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>>29153856
It's still not the same concept you moron, evolution is just a permanent mega and nothing more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 17:38:14 No.29153969 Report

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>>29153909
We've seen normal Exeggcute evolving into A-Exeggutor already.

Cubone too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 17:38:39 No.29153974 Report

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>>29153819
Nostalgia stong

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 17:39:32 No.29153992 Report

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>>29153454
>What is mega evolution

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 17:39:46 No.29154001 Report

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I sure hope they are. You always had to go through some convoluted bullshit to get one.

I had to scam someone on the GTS offering a "6IV Ditto" for a Magmortar. I managed to get Electivire, Rhyperior and Porygon-Z through some series of miracles.

Cross-Gen Evolutions were among the harder parts of completing my Living Dex.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 17:39:52 No.29154003 Report

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>>29153643
>Eviolite Sableye

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 17:41:44 No.29154048 Report

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>>29153837
You mean rhyperior and lickilicky, right?
The others are pretty great imo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 17:42:58 No.29154074 Report

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>>29154003
are you retarded?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 17:44:08 No.29154097 Report

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>>29154003
please tell me you give eviolite to single stage pokemon anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 17:45:06 No.29154113 Report

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>>29153969
Oh dang, really? I must have forgot about that. I was really looking forward to alolan exeggcute and pikachu

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 17:45:16 No.29154121 Report

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>>29154074
>>29154097
I meant giving Sableye an evolution would allow it to use Eviolite.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 17:47:36 No.29154161 Report

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>>29153867
That makes zero sense considering the existence of Sylveon. Just add new things and accompany new evolutions with them. They've shown absolutely no reluctance to doing this across 20 years. The only argument around that would be adding completely new evolutions on top of previously fully evolved Pokemon due to eviolite and megas. But things like Frosslass and Gallade style evolutions are commonplace cross gen evos.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 17:48:35 No.29154175 Report

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>>29153454
Pre-Gen IV /vp/
"My bro is ruined! Why Game Freak, WHY!!!!"

Post-Gen IV /vp/
"Why did you stopped making more Cross-Gen evos Game Freak"

You've complained about Cross-Gen Evos and they made sure you don't see them again. Next time complain about anything that need complaining.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 17:49:25 No.29154193 Report

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>>29154175
>internet is one person

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Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 17:58:58 No.29154373 Report

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>>29154175
every time

>>29153909
Indeed I am. They wouldnt want to change Pikachu either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 18:07:07 No.29154550 Report

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>>29154175
>Pre-Gen IV /vp/
wat

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 18:07:54 No.29154571 Report

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>>29154161
>That makes zero sense considering the existence of Sylveon.
Except it does. Sylveon doesn't affect anything because Eevee could evolve.
Something like Jynx getting and evo messes things up because of eviolite.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 18:09:18 No.29154593 Report

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>>29154175
>Pre-Gen IV /vp/
Heads up kiddo, /vp/ didn't exist until just before gen 5.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 18:27:47 No.29155035 Report

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>>29153454
If we do get more, it better be more convenient than trading with an item that is either unavailable in that game or only obtainable in the post game. Leveling up with a certain move is definitely better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 20:00:54 No.29156781 Report

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>>29153781
To be fair, it's first post worst post.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 20:02:55 No.29156816 Report

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>>29154175

/vp/ didn't exist pre Gen IV

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 20:04:50 No.29156864 Report

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>>29153781
It has like 6 replies, autist

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 20:07:37 No.29156911 Report

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>>29153495
put me in the screen cap

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Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 20:18:08 No.29157097 Report

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>>29154175
>Pre-Gen IV /vp/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 20:19:53 No.29157131 Report

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>>29156911
no.

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Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 20:33:13 No.29157392 Report

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>>29153495
close that mouth and stop posting

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 20:35:55 No.29157454 Report

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>>29153454
Sadly, gone for good.
A lot of shitmon can't be saved now. Even with megas, since you can only use one mega per team and some megas are great while a lot of megas are shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 20:46:14 No.29157623 Report

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>>29153495
(You)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 20:48:21 No.29157673 Report

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>>29153495
Put me in the screencap

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 20:54:36 No.29157792 Report

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>>29154175
why are so many people unable to understand that more than one person uses this board

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 20:58:48 No.29157867 Report

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>>29157792
>implying you are not me

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Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 21:02:52 No.29157948 Report

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>>29153701
>Alola forms ruining it
I doubt it

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Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 21:03:58 No.29157965 Report

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>>29153495

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Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 21:09:13 No.29158056 Report

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>>29153454
I wouldn't mind a few more, but i feel like megas and alolan forms have filled a similar niche. Also, as forgettable as it was, the big influx of new evos was technically Sinnoh's gimmick, with evolution methods being Rowan's field of expertise, Mt.Coronet and the eevee rocks being a big deal as a locational evos, and Team Galactic stealing the energy let off during evolution. The only other excuse was gen2 being a direct sequel and picking up a few scrapped ideas, plus the retroactive baby forms and steel evos to pad out the new type. gen 3 line additions were all totally pointless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 21:10:15 No.29158079 Report

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>>29158056
>gen 3 line additions were all totally pointless.
>all
I'm sorry. "both"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 21:11:39 No.29158113 Report

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>>29153454
gen5 was literally a gen1 rehash
gen6 had megas
gen7 is going to have alolan forms

In a way, we got something for older mons, just not common evolutions.

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Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 21:11:52 No.29158119 Report

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>Tfw I've always wanted to use the porygon family but never had a person to help get the trade evos with or the methods were just too hard to do
Cross gen evos gave me super seizure duck so I'm happy with them. The only ones I hate the look of are Ambipom and Rhyperior. Gliscor and Magmortar are pretty cool looking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 21:47:26 No.29158854 Report

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>>29154373
That picture does not work in the context of 4chan, first you'd need to remove the individuals and place a huge hazy cloud in their stead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 22:21:26 No.29159588 Report

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Just checked the article for Porygon-Z
>PAL: Porygon is an artificial Pokémon created by humans. Given an Up-Grade, it becomes Porygon2. Then another mod turns it into Porygon-Z. You'd think two upgrades would make Porygon-Z the perfect Pokémon, but actually, the Dubious Disc used to make Porygon2 evolve makes it a bit glitchy. Maybe there's a patch in the works...
>Maybe there's a patch in the works

THERE IS STILL HOPE

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 22:24:08 No.29159639 Report

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>>29153454
>gen 1
>gen 2
>gen 4
the pattern here is pretty obvious, expect another Porygon in gen 8

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Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 22:25:34 No.29159668 Report

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>>29159588
>>29159639

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 22:26:57 No.29159699 Report

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>>29153942
What? But evolution came first, not megas.

And evolutions are NOT just permanent megas. Would you call Mega Kangaskhan an evolution when the only change it has is the baby fighting with the mom?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 22:28:29 No.29159734 Report

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>>29159639
I don't want to wait that long, senpai
What could Porygon3 possibly be?
2 is already a perfect wall and they can't make 3 a special attacker without making Z completely useless

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 22:28:39 No.29159737 Report

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>>29159588
Fuck man, I hope

I can definitely see a Regional Variant that is purely based on a liscenced evo of Porygon2

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 22:33:28 No.29159834 Report

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>>29158119
I know that feel. I'm working on a living dex and the porygon line has just been a huge pain in the ass, and it's one of my favorite pokemon

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Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 22:42:21 No.29160012 Report

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>>29153495

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Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 22:47:43 No.29160136 Report

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>>29153495
Fuckin idiot.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 00:18:14 No.29162080 Report

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>>29153454
Obviously not

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 00:25:44 No.29162219 Report

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>>29153942
sorry, anon, your logic is flawed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 00:28:20 No.29162265 Report

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>>29153761
>the GF raised your hopes with Alomomola and completely destroyed them

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 00:28:21 No.29162266 Report

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>>29153454
Probably. I think they've been throwing around ideas for a way to do this without a fuckload of backlash, and finally settled on Alola forms.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 00:30:40 No.29162333 Report

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>>29153867
But they retcon a lot with adding fairy type. So they can retcon something, when they want to

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 01:00:17 No.29162903 Report

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>>29153454
I hate the way they were done. Cross gen evos always need some shitty new way to evolve. The only good one were the move ones so they could just give pokemon the move, othewise they're just shitty requirements that need to be forced into every future game. IE Ice rocks/Grass rocks/Electric zones.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 01:23:52 No.29163321 Report

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>tfw you realize we haven't got a cross gen evos in half the franchise, except for Sylveon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 01:30:31 No.29163448 Report

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>>29153570
That's fucking stupid

half the cross gen evos we got in Gen 4 were shit, meanwhile the only Megas that are totally unusable are Banette, latios and Audino, but you can omit Latios since it was never going to get an evolution to begin with. Even in Gen 2, a lot of the evos we got were ass like bellossom and scizor (if you'll recall, it only became good in Platinum when it got the ability to use Technician BP)

Mega Mawile is better than any evolution we could've possibly gotten. Same for Sabeleye, Stingulor, Lucario, kangaskhan, etc

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 01:34:58 No.29163540 Report

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>>29158119

Try Perfect Platinum. All trade evos are replaced with level-ups. Just got out of a run where I used P-Z in-game for the first time ever, shit was awesome.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 01:37:07 No.29163587 Report

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Gen 5 was a soft reboot, Gen 6 had Sylveon and Mega Evos, and Gen 7 has Alola Forms. The latter two aren't exactly the same thing, but they're close enough in terms of concept and effort that I doubt they're gone for good.

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