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So what other Pokemon can we discount from having an Alola Form

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 19:22:29 No.29178972 View View Reply Original Report

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from the recent trailers?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 19:23:44 No.29178997 Report

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>>29178972
Just Goldeen and Seaking

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 19:25:51 No.29179036 Report

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>>29178972
Updated

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 19:26:40 No.29179052 Report

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Masuda

Masuda Sun 16 Oct 2016 19:26:49 No.29179057 Report

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>>29178972
Clefable line, goldeen line,maybe voltorb line considering the ingame merch of it and the keychain the electric captain has. Parasect line too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 19:27:59 No.29179075 Report

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Update Grimer and Muk to having Alola forms.

I think the Nidos are very likely, maybe Poison/Steel for King (unique typing) and Poison/Fairy for Queen (unique typing).

Arbok will probably get one.

Maybe Victreebel or Tentacruel?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 19:28:06 No.29179076 Report

Quoted By: >>29179427

I think scyther has been seen in a trailer too.
I'm guessing no mon with a seperate generation family member is getting one sadly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 19:29:02 No.29179092 Report

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Could someone remind why some of these are crossed ? I'm noticing that Omastar and Kabutops are crossed, and I am one of the fags expecting for alolan gen1 fossils

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 19:29:09 No.29179094 Report

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>>29179052
Awesome, cheers

Masuda

Masuda Sun 16 Oct 2016 19:30:40 No.29179121 Report

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>>29179052
This is the correct one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 19:31:20 No.29179127 Report

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>>29178972
Dark Ekans and Arbok, it seems that any pokemon Team Rocket used in RBY will get this type
Joke aside i'd wish for both Nido lines, they can do whatever the fuck they want, I just want a three staged Alola line, and also Flamingo Doduo please

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 19:32:03 No.29179140 Report

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>>29179052
None of the six nidos have showed in trailers yet, huh? Maybe all six will get alolan forms and they'll be counterparts somehow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 19:32:21 No.29179150 Report

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>>29179052
Oddish and Gloom didn't get an Alolan from then Vileplume should be crossed out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 19:33:28 No.29179165 Report

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>>29179150
not necessarily, because it could be like pikachu or exeggcute where evolving it via stone gives a different alolan form.

Masuda

Masuda Sun 16 Oct 2016 19:35:07 No.29179212 Report

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>>29179140
Also have to expect not every gen 1 pokemon will be in game.

Going to have to use bank to get the rest later on post december.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 19:39:12 No.29179294 Report

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>>29179127
You mean this ?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 19:40:20 No.29179325 Report

Quoted By: >>29179631 >>29181115 >>29182945 >>29184731

We have seen a Krabby art.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 19:41:57 No.29179371 Report

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>>29179052
Remove legends and fossils and it's perfect

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 19:44:02 No.29179416 Report

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>>29179294
More like one of thos two, I hope Gf deliver

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 19:44:22 No.29179427 Report

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>>29179076
Raichu is an exception to that, actually

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 19:46:05 No.29179466 Report

Quoted By: >>29180522

>alolan venomoth is still possible

please give my bro something

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 19:46:45 No.29179477 Report

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>>29179371
In alola they would have never become extinct so it would be their original forms

Masuda

Masuda Sun 16 Oct 2016 19:49:05 No.29179529 Report

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>>29179477
Could had still changed and not died out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 19:50:25 No.29179552 Report

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>>29179052
I hope typically annoying pokemon like Geodude and Tentacool get one. Also, please Dodrio!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 19:51:15 No.29179559 Report

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>>29178972
Generation 2-6

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 19:52:01 No.29179568 Report

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Believed to be extinct, a different form of Omanyte were found in the surrounding waters of Alola. Compared to Omanyte revived from Helix Fossils, Alolan Omanyte have since evolved and adapted over time. Its shell reversed and grew lighter so it could swim faster, allowing it to catch prey easily. Its shell contains an iridescent mineral, which reflects light to attract prey.

http://connorgotchi.deviantart.com/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 19:52:49 No.29179581 Report

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>>29178972
Why is every evolution line either left in or crossed out entirely? Shouldn't there be at least one line where the earlier stage(s) were seen in trailers but not the later stage(s)?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 19:54:08 No.29179611 Report

Quoted By: >>29179636 >>29179676

>>29179052
Haven't all Alolan formes been 2 stage lines?
That can't be a coincidence

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 19:55:01 No.29179629 Report

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>>29179052
>there's still hope for a Grass/Water kelpy Rapidash
GF PLEASE !

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 19:55:11 No.29179631 Report

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>>29179581
According to this >>29179325 the only Gen 1 Pokemon that shouldn't be crossed out is Kingler. In every other instances we've seen the final evolutions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 19:55:15 No.29179636 Report

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>>29179611
raichu is 3 stage.

I think it's just because 2 stage lines are more common.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 19:56:29 No.29179650 Report

Quoted By: >>29179697 >>29179700 >>29179702 >>29180220

>Raichu gets an Alola form
>People are still discounting Pokemon with cross-gen evos, at least pre-evos from getting Alola forms

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 19:57:49 No.29179676 Report

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>>29179611
Well, third stages are strong enough/popular already/already have megas/already in a branched family.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 19:58:57 No.29179697 Report

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>>29179650
Raichu isn't a cross gen evo. We're only discounting Pokemon that evolve INTO non gen 1 pokemon, not FROM them

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 19:59:10 No.29179700 Report

Quoted By: >>29179721 >>29180193

>>29179650
It's literally just Mr. Mime and Jynx left. Everything else from gen 1 that has a baby is confirmed to stay in Kanto form.

Masuda

Masuda Sun 16 Oct 2016 19:59:20 No.29179702 Report

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>>29179650
Pre evos cant get one if their re evos are still the same shown in video.

It's kanto only so far.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 20:00:03 No.29179713 Report

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>>29179052
I'm betting on
>almost every fully evolved Poison-type
>Geodude line that stays cohesive since everyone complains about the leap from Graveler to Golem
>Omanyte and Kabuto that didn't go extinct

Masuda

Masuda Sun 16 Oct 2016 20:00:22 No.29179721 Report

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>>29179700
Pickachu does but it still Raichu aloalan final form.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 20:00:37 No.29179730 Report

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>>29179052

Cross out the legendaries

Masuda

Masuda Sun 16 Oct 2016 20:01:43 No.29179752 Report

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>>29179713
It's a small chance there might be alolan legendary, to pad the legandary count to catch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 20:02:30 No.29179771 Report

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>>29179721
The others' final evos (in Gen 1) were shown in trailers. Clefable, Wigglytuff, Magmar, Electabuzz and Chansey.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 20:04:00 No.29179793 Report

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At this point, just give us the Nidoran and the Doduo lines Alolan forms and I'll be satisfied.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 20:05:32 No.29179810 Report

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I'd fucking kill for Krabby/Kingler.

Masuda

Masuda Sun 16 Oct 2016 20:06:02 No.29179819 Report

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>>29179771
I already know that but not the others.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 20:06:21 No.29179827 Report

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So establishing the following speculative harsh rules
>only Kantomon
>no Kantomon that received evo/side evo/pre evo/mega in later generations
>no fossils
>no legendaries
>if a pokemon has an alola form, that's the only one in the native dex (it goes implicit that every mon that's already been showed in a way or another for the game is excluded along with its pre evolutions)

Who's left?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 20:07:56 No.29179854 Report

Quoted By: >>29179877

Considering the ice stone thing (not sure if proven false yet) I don't think we can discount cloyster. I can easily see a split with shelder becoming water/rock with a water stone and water/ice with ice stone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 20:08:16 No.29179857 Report

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>>29179827

>pre evo

pichu exists

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 20:08:41 No.29179868 Report

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>>29179827
>o Kantomon that received evo/side evo/pre evo/mega in later generations
Considering Raichu, I don't think that Kantomon that got prevo are out of the line, even though it could be special treatment

Masuda

Masuda Sun 16 Oct 2016 20:09:08 No.29179877 Report

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>>29179854
Cloyster was already shown.

This list shows whats left. >>29179052

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 20:09:11 No.29179879 Report

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>>29179827
>arbok
>nidos
>venomoth
>dugtrio
>victreebel
>tentacruel
>golem
>rapidash
>farfetchd
>dodrio
>dewgong
>weezing

and their pre evos

Masuda

Masuda Sun 16 Oct 2016 20:11:19 No.29179919 Report

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>>29179857
Cross gen can't happen.

Regular Pikachu and cubone are shown to become their new forms when evo in alola.
You could have for example a regular diglett becoming a new alolan dugtrio.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 20:12:45 No.29179947 Report

Quoted By: >>29179956 >>29180105

Apparently Alolan Koffing got leaked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 20:13:11 No.29179956 Report

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>>29179947
Already proven fake

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 20:13:53 No.29179967 Report

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>>29179827
>pre evo
I'm ignoring this rule because of Raichu.

According to >>29179052
Full lines:
>Ekans
>Nidoran
>Venonat
>Diglett
>Bellsprout
>Tentacool
>Geodude
>Ponyta
>Farfetch'd
>Doduo
>Seel
>Koffing

Final evo only
>Kingler (someone else posted krabby)
>Mr. Mime
>Jynx (unlikely because muh racism)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 20:14:58 No.29179975 Report

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>>29179967
>unlikely because muh racism

If anything, this makes it more likely, as it allows them a chance to fix Jynx. Just make it a sort of Hawaii'n dancer without the big red lips or bulging eyes, give it a sort of a reddish skin tone, boom.

Masuda

Masuda Sun 16 Oct 2016 20:15:07 No.29179979 Report

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>>29179967
Changing jynx into a waifu mon can give a new lease on life.

Might even become grass ground.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 20:15:25 No.29179981 Report

Quoted By: >>29180049

Except Exeggutor all the mons that got an alola forms are mono-type. So i'd say the ones who most chances have to get one are:

>Ekans line
>Diglett line
>Ponyta line
>Kingler
>Koffing line

The Hitmons too but i honestly don't see GF giving them a regional variant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 20:16:17 No.29179997 Report

Quoted By: >>29180028 >>29180045

>if a pokemon has an alola form, that's the only one in the native dex (it goes implicit that every mon that's already been showed in a way or another for the game is excluded along with its pre evolutions)

Has the strange Tauros been explained?

Anon

Anon Sun 16 Oct 2016 20:17:42 No.29180028 Report

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>>29179997
It was a ride version.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 20:18:29 No.29180045 Report

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>>29179997
shading

Anon

Anon Sun 16 Oct 2016 20:18:44 No.29180049 Report

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>>29179981
Could give the hitmons a mma and samoan wrestler type gimmick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 20:18:58 No.29180056 Report

Quoted By: >>29180098

I'm thinking Geodude and Diglett lines.

We've seen reference to Diglett in a line of Aether Foundation employee's dialogue in a Japanese trailer (why the line is on the Riddler's dex thing), but the fact we didn't see it has me suspicious. Expecting Ground/something (Maybe Fighting or Fairy since they're unused still), since the Aether people were in a cave.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 20:20:04 No.29180078 Report

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>>29179967

I doubt all 6 Nidos are getting Alola forms. Probably just the king and queen.

Anon

Anon Sun 16 Oct 2016 20:20:51 No.29180098 Report

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>>29180056
It has to match parts of island too. Like the new ice types are in the snowy mountain part.

Mst of the dark types are in the first island.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 20:20:51 No.29180099 Report

Quoted By: >>29180125

We're getting:

Poison/Steel Nidoking
Poison/Fairy Kidoqueen
Fire Koffing/Wheezing
Fire/Grass Jynx
Ground/Grass Kingler
Poison/Electric Tentacruel
Water/Bug Omastar and Water/Steel Kabutops

Screencap this post

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 20:21:12 No.29180105 Report

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>>29179947
The guy that made those gave up and confessed, I think he also posted a fake video that he was planning to post here, I don't really know why he stopped like that, but it was fun

Anon

Anon Sun 16 Oct 2016 20:22:27 No.29180125 Report

Quoted By: >>29180161 >>29180191

>>29180099
They could go out of the box. Like electric farfetcd or steel geodude monotype.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 20:23:52 No.29180156 Report

Quoted By: >>29180183

A-Ekans and A-Koffing back in the anime would be neat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 20:24:10 No.29180161 Report

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>>29180125
Yeah I was just throwing out ideas of what I could see.

I personally suspect Normal/Steel (again, unique typing) Farfetch'd, where his sword is more samurai-like.

Anon

Anon Sun 16 Oct 2016 20:25:18 No.29180183 Report

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>>29180156
Yeah.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 20:25:46 No.29180191 Report

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>>29180125
Monotype steel Pokemon:
>Registeel
>Klink line
>Mega Aggron

Typing is fairly uncommon, so it'd fit with most of the Alolan forms so far.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 20:25:53 No.29180193 Report

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>>29179700
And the Hitmons

Anon

Anon Sun 16 Oct 2016 20:27:17 No.29180216 Report

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>>29180161
Yeah. Meowth only has dark so it's possible monotypes can happen.

Fossils could be bug types with grass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 20:27:33 No.29180220 Report

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>>29179650
Raichu didn't get a preevo, Pikachu did :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 20:31:17 No.29180293 Report

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I don't see how legendarys can't get one. You could switch typings of the birds or fairy mew.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 20:34:25 No.29180355 Report

Quoted By: >>29180758

>>29179052
Taking into account the general direction of Alolan Forms (types that were rare/nonexistent in RGBY, types that don't scream "Hawaii," and rare/unused type combos):
Poison/Dragon Nidos
Rock/Dragon Golem
Psychic/Poison Arbok
Fairy/Poison Vileplume
Bug/Psychic Venomoth
Fire/Fairy Rapidash
Steel/Poison Victreebel
Ground/Dark Dugtrio
Normal/Steel Dodrio
Normal/Ghost Farfetch'd
Ice/Fighting Dewgong
Poison/Ice Tentacruel
Poison/Ghost Weezing
Bug/Ice Kingler
Fighting/Fairy Mr. Mime
Ice/Fairy Jynx
Water/Steel Omastar
Bug/Dark Kabutops

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 20:43:44 No.29180522 Report

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>>29179466
>something
fuck that broken piece of shit, if gamefreak pulls some sort of fucking bug/dragon favoritism bullshit on that fucking winged rat i am going to funnel fire ants into masuda's boy pussy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 20:51:45 No.29180656 Report

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Poison/Dark Ekans/Arbok
Ground/Fighting Nidos
Poison/Fairy Vileplume
Bug/Psychic Venonat/moth
Ground/Ice Diglett/Dugtrio
Grass/Dark Victreebel
Water/Electric Tentas
Electric Ponyta, Electric/Flying Rapidash
Rock/Water Kingler
Fire/Rock Koffing/Weezing

Farfetch'd, Dewgong, Dodrio, Geos, Hitmons, Mime, Jinx, Fossils, and Legends get no love

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 20:53:45 No.29180686 Report

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All speculation, of course. But I really hope for the ground/ice dugtrio. The three of them all huddled up for warmth sounds so cute.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 20:56:37 No.29180751 Report

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may as well drop mine

>Ekans: Fighting (Shed Skin/Fighting Skin)
>Arbok: Fighting (Shed Skin/Fighting Skin)
>Nidoqueen: Poison/Steel (Corrosion/Battle Armor)
>Nidoking: Poison/Steel (Corrosion/Battle Armor)
>Venonat: Bug/Psychic (Compound Eyes/Tinted Lens)
>Venomoth: Bug/Psychic (Wonder Skin/Magic Guard)
>Diglett: Rock/Fire (Sand Rush/Arena Trap)
>Dugtrio: Rock/Fire (Sand Rush/Arena Trap)
>Bellsprout: Grass/Fire (Chlorophyll/Flash Fire)
>Weepinbell: Grass/Fire (Chlorophyll/Flash Fire)
>Victreebel: Grass/Fire (Chlorophyll/Flash Fire)
>Tentacool: Electric/Poison (Static/Poison Point)
>Tentacruel: Electric/Poison (Static/Poison Point)
>Geodude: Ground/Fire (Rock Head/Filter)
>Graveler: Ground/Fire (Rock Head/Filter)
>Golem: Steel/Fire (Rock Head/Filter)
>Ponyta: Ghost (Cursed Body/Run Away)
>Rapidash: Ghost/Fairy (Cursed Body/Shadow Tag)
>Farfetch'd: Fighting/Flying (Aerilate)
>Doduo: Ground/Fighting (Speed Boost/Defiant)
>Dodrio: Ground/Fighting (Speed Boost/Defiant)
>Dewgong: Water/Fire (Serene Grace/Hydration)
>Koffing: Fire (Levitate)
>Weezing: Fire (Levitate)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 20:57:05 No.29180758 Report

Quoted By: >>29180954

>>29180355
>Not Flying/anything Rapidash

Why live

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 20:58:30 No.29180792 Report

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>>29179416
>cassowary

HOLY SHIT YES

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 21:05:24 No.29180934 Report

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water fighting Kingler to rival the crabrawler of alola would be cool

Crabrawler wants to be at the top
Kingler is the king, the top

would be pretty sweet

Masuda

Masuda Sun 16 Oct 2016 21:06:21 No.29180954 Report

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>>29180758
Water flying rapidash.

IM SO HAPPY IM CRYING DOOO DOOO DOO

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 21:07:21 No.29180976 Report

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Where did that image of gotholeta come from. The chinese riddler hinted at that one getting an aloan form

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 21:11:34 No.29181072 Report

Quoted By: >>29181095 >>29181131

Fire Koffing/Weezing would be the most boring thing ever.

Masuda

Masuda Sun 16 Oct 2016 21:12:37 No.29181095 Report

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>>29181072
Water dark koffing.

Koffing up water.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 21:13:27 No.29181115 Report

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>>29179325
I would fucking cream myself if we got an Alola form Breloom, Lilligant and/or Altaria.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 21:14:09 No.29181131 Report

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>>29181072
Water/Ground Koffing/Weezing. It turns into a geyser. Still boring? Yeah probably.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 21:25:19 No.29181346 Report

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I can 100% see Alolan Mr.Mime being Dark/Fairy and resembling a Court Jester for the Aristocratic Alolan Royal Family. Obviously tying into Alolan Meowth's Lore as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 21:30:47 No.29181469 Report

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Flying/Fairy pegasus Rapidash seems like the obvious choice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 21:47:43 No.29181869 Report

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Fairy Hitmonlee ballerina

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 22:39:20 No.29182945 Report

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>>29179325
wtf is that thing between Pangoro and Hawlucha? Furfrow?

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Anonymous Mon 17 Oct 2016 00:14:16 No.29184731 Report

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>>29179325
Okay, someone do a comparison of this for me. This pokedex is based off of the little PC sprites below all of the pokemon in the Riddler's ist of pokemon with the hints.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Oct 2016 00:19:24 No.29184820 Report

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>>29178972
Anything with an EVOLUTION outside Gen1
For example Rhydon>Rhyperior

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