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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:17:54 No.29214097 View View Reply Original Report

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Ash Grenigger base stats

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:18:38 No.29214124 Report

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reddit BTFO

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:19:22 No.29214157 Report

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https://twitter.com/KazoWAR/status/788201176621875200

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:19:43 No.29214174 Report

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>>29214097
>Flash Fire

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:20:18 No.29214198 Report

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Ready for VGC17 Year of the frog edition?

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:20:54 No.29214224 Report

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>>29214097
>Ash still lost the league with this

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:20:57 No.29214228 Report

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>>29214198
Ash-Greninja isn't allowed in VGC '17

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:21:24 No.29214250 Report

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That's quite the stat boost

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:21:47 No.29214260 Report

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>>29214097
>Flash fire

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:22:06 No.29214271 Report

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>>29214174
>burasto bun

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:22:35 No.29214292 Report

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Is that a 110 boost? That's 10 more than a mega evolution. Then again, you need to take out a pokemon with regular greninja to activate it in the first place.

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:22:47 No.29214301 Report

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>>29214228
Source?

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:22:47 No.29214302 Report

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110 stat boost, 10 more than a normal mega.

wew

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:23:10 No.29214313 Report

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>>29214228
Hopefully Ash-Greninja will be allowed in future VGCs. Greninja needs a buff.

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:23:18 No.29214321 Report

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>110 BST boost
Why 110 and not 100 like Megas? Did normal Greninja get a 10 BST boost?

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:23:43 No.29214334 Report

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>>29214313

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:24:15 No.29214356 Report

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>>29214301
They calculated from the demo Greninja stats after transforming.

It has a set nature and IVs so it's easy to do.

BTW, since the IVs can be boosted in this game Ash-Greninja is perfectly capable of 6IV and/or getting a specific hidden power

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:24:33 No.29214370 Report

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>>29214228
Well I think we fucking know why now, just look at those stats, and consider you can still use a held item

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:24:54 No.29214377 Report

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christ, grenigger was bad enough with protean.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:25:21 No.29214392 Report

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>>29214370
No it's banned because it's an eventmon

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:25:44 No.29214406 Report

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>>29214271
This means a bigger fuck you from the ashnime scriptwriters

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:26:21 No.29214420 Report

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>>29214313
This isn't smash brothers

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:26:24 No.29214426 Report

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>>29214301
The official Pokemon website

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:26:42 No.29214441 Report

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>>29214392
Well, it shouldn't be banned. It wouldn't even be that overpowered in VGC, since there's threats like Mega Kangaskhan and other nasties running around.

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:27:17 No.29214469 Report

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>>29214441
except that megas are banned for next season VGC

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:27:19 No.29214471 Report

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>>29214406
Was it at least a Charizard-Y that he lost to?

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:27:59 No.29214490 Report

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>>29214441
Mega-Mom confirmed for nerf. Second attack only does 25%.

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:28:20 No.29214507 Report

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>>29214471
LMAO

Charizard-Y doesn't exist!

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:28:24 No.29214512 Report

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>>29214441
I just told you its power is irrelevant. Events are banned by default because of accessibility.

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:30:08 No.29214576 Report

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>>29214512
in theory yes. in practice endeavor raichu is allowed despite being an event and deoxys was banned despite being just as accessible as Rayquaza. tpci is shit at consistency.

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:30:59 No.29214606 Report

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>>29214321
They wanted to make it stronger than M-Charizard.

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:34:04 No.29214740 Report

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>>29214097
So, ash-greninja loses protean? Why did they took out his trademark ability(kekleon is irrelevant).

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:34:06 No.29214742 Report

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>>29214392
Are you a retard?
It's banned because Greninja it's not in the Alola Dex.
You fuckshit.

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:34:11 No.29214748 Report

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>>29214301
See http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/en-us/new-pokemon-global-link-features/

It doesn't technically say that Ash-Greninja will be banned from VGC 17, but the section on Special Battlespot confirms it beyond reasonable doubt.

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:35:14 No.29214792 Report

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>>29214742
>assumptions
>fuckshit

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:37:42 No.29214874 Report

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>>29214356
>hidden power
why bother with hidden power when it already has every single type?

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:37:55 No.29214880 Report

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>>29214471
CharX

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:44:14 No.29215107 Report

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>>29214507
>>29214880
Why am I not surprised?

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:44:44 No.29215120 Report

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>>29214740

Because Battle Bond is its ability

It also gets a +110 BST boost

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:47:02 No.29215196 Report

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>>29214097
Now give it a 175 base custom Z-move

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:49:59 No.29215295 Report

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>>29214740
because having a mega evolution while still having an slot for an item enables him to use Z moves.

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:51:57 No.29215355 Report

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>>29214441
Megas are also banned this VGC.

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:52:07 No.29215360 Report

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>loves the heat

Ash plz

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:52:13 No.29215362 Report

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>>29214097
>flash fire
>got BTFO by blastburn

something's not right here

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:52:29 No.29215372 Report

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I know this new frog is ridiculous OP but are his non STAB moves stronger than the regular pretean frog? Let's say gunk shot. Are his stats that much of an improvement to surpass STAB + life orb boost from regular frog?

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:54:30 No.29215432 Report

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>>29215372

Its Water and Dark moves hit harder than Protean Greninja's.

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:56:11 No.29215486 Report

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>>29215372
The non-STAB moves are a little bit weaker:
20 Atk Life Orb Protean Greninja Gunk Shot vs. 172 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 398-468 (103.6 - 121.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

With new stats but no protean:

20 Atk Life Orb Greninja Gunk Shot vs. 172 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 380-447 (98.9 - 116.4%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:56:22 No.29215493 Report

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>>29215372
does even it need to be holding something?

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:57:54 No.29215538 Report

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>>29215493
No, Ash Greninja can hold a Life Orb just as well as Protean Greninja

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:58:56 No.29215580 Report

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Life Orb Ash Greninja Good Game

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:59:05 No.29215586 Report

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>>29215486
So it's a stronger but less versatile Greninja

It's going to ubers, but people who think it'll somehow break the game are delusional

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 03:00:29 No.29215640 Report

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>>29215486
This is a testament to how busted Greninja already is.

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 03:02:00 No.29215710 Report

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>>29214097
that just looks like something I'd see in a fanmade megas thread

>132 speed
fucking why, 130 is top tier already

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 03:02:29 No.29215729 Report

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>>29214097
Is it confirmed that it's locked to Serious nature though?

If so, it can only outspeed base 106s in regular form and 115s as Ash Greninja.

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 03:03:12 No.29215760 Report

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>>29215360
>Ash was so fucking pissed after the loss he's leaving it in a foreign region and fucking off

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 03:03:33 No.29215776 Report

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>>29215729
Hardy.

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 03:04:33 No.29215821 Report

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>>29215586
I expect it will stay in Ubers and maybe be less shit there than it is this gen. The speed boost is nifty since it makes it outspeed mewtwo, darkrai, and skymin, and it could actually have enough power behind its STABs to dent fat legends. Of course that's assuming it can even get the KO to change form in the first place.

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 03:04:35 No.29215824 Report

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>>29215586
Keep in mind it needs to kill something first to get those stat boosts

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 03:05:03 No.29215839 Report

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what nature should I soft reset for? Modest?

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 03:05:37 No.29215870 Report

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>>29215839
lol

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 03:05:55 No.29215883 Report

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>>29215839
hasty if it isn't locked

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 03:08:33 No.29215993 Report

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>>29214097
>>29215839
No this thing is a mixed fucking monster.

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 03:12:28 No.29216126 Report

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>>29214097
So, we talking naive for a mixed attacker or a timid nature for a full special set since water-shuriken is special now?

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 03:13:44 No.29216171 Report

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>>29215839
Be sure to reset for a "proud of its power" one!

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 03:14:06 No.29216184 Report

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>>29216126
If the nature can be reset on the real game's side, or it can be bred, I think those are good.

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 03:15:54 No.29216247 Report

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>>29215839
Isn't it locked into a Hardy nature?

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 03:18:02 No.29216328 Report

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>>29214097
source?

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 03:24:59 No.29216556 Report

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>>29216328
Dataminers

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Anonymous Tue 18 Oct 2016 03:27:28 No.29216642 Report

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https://youtu.be/LOFct9QWlh8
Mega Charizard X is so strong, he can deal fire damage to pokémon with immunity to fire!

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